The Traitors - thread 3

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Who will be victorious?

It does have some reality stars but honestly they just act like the rest of them, I didn’t really notice any difference. Might be worth a try

Yes I had never heard of any of the so called reality stars. Most of the contestants came over a bit crazy/hyper/rude.
The UK ones were far more civilised and polite over the whole thing. As I’ve said before though I enjoyed watching Kate and how her behaviour deteriorated the longer she stayed in. Her spat with Rachel over breakfast was hilarious.

What is the mole about? I'm scared to google in case I find the winner out

It's contestants who dress in black and wear blindfolds and have to live in tunnels whilst simultaneously figuring out which one of them is sabotaging the molehill

Had to give up on the US one after about 15 painful minutes. Awful. Awful, infantile competitors. AC’s awful manner and surely fake accent.

I managed to watch the whole thing, but this is accurate

Ha! All the praise had almost persuaded me to try again …

Ugh I could only manage 20 minutes of the American version.

I've just binged watched the US version, having very nearly giving up after the first 10 minutes!. I didnt know any of the reality stars apart from Brandi so that didnt impact my viewing. I didnt enjoy it nearly as much as the UK version bit it had some twists. I'd stick with it. It has cemented my thoughts though that I wouldnt watch another season, for me I can see it going the way of big brother.

With the US one.

I think if you can get past the first 4 episodes it starts to improve.

I passed on the US one too. I am enjoying The Mole though and it’s a prog. the children can watch too which is rare and good.

I am 4 episodes into the US one and it is getting better.

"Sorry but Kieron cheated and Will should have got the cash."

How did he cheat? He alluded to something the same as many of them had done throughout the whole series.

The reason Kieran was so convincing when he brought down Wilf was precisely because he didn't accuse him openly and was cryptic about it.

The game relies on accusation and insinuation.

Kieran was as subtle as a brick. Imo he was a very poor loser.

And yet it still took the others how long to work it out? 😁

The others still weren't entirely convinced until Wilf went off on one.

I’d say that was how it was edited tbh.

That's always possible in these shows. They did seem to be very confused while still sitting around the table though, with Meryl still just wanting to end the game there.

Meryl was exceptionally poor throughout the game. She appeared incapable of thinking independently.
The Welsh woman played a great game. I’ve already forgotten her name.

The difference is that he had inside knowledge and used it. There must be something in the rules that says the traitors can't announce who the other ones are when they leave, otherwise the game just wouldn't work. That is presumably why Kieran just hinted that Will was the traitor, and I agree, it's a very iffy way to behave. I suspect that in future they'll tighten up the rules to clarify that hinting is right out for traitors also.

Wilf also used his inside knowledge. Traitors are at an advantage.

Wilf said Kieran was a traitor. Kieran gave an implication as to how Wilf would know that.

Traitors are obviously allowed to accuse each other of being traitors in the course of the game and using the same tactics as the faithful, but they can't say "I know he's a traitor because I am one" as they leave. It would effectively bring the game to an end. None of the traitors in the Aus or English version have done that, which clearly suggests it's against the rules. But Kieran sailed extremely close to doing just that, which effectively meant that he used inside knowledge to get personal revenge and was unfair to Will. None of the other traitors in either series has done that, so I suspect they rightly believed it would be wrong and against the rules. It made for quite a good ending, and I suspect the producers didn't stop him for that reason, and maybe because they decided to give him the benefit of the doubt about the interpretation of the rules, but I bet they'll spell it out in future.

But he didn't say that. He just insinuated it. It could have been a bluff just for revenge, for all they knew. If Wilf is allowed to say Kieran is a traitor, why can't Kieran insinuate that Wilf is?

Wilf did the same to Alyssa. He accused her knowing she was a traitor. Yes you could argue Kieron's motives were different but it's still the same scenario.
I think it was good ending. I don't think it would have been a very satisfying win if Wilf had taken it all from the others.
Agree that Meryl showed very little critical thinking throughout and just allowed herself to be manipulated.

Wilf double crossed Alyssa but she had already told the others she was a traitor by imitating Claudia. She was the cause of her own fall.

Kieran pretty much told the others Will was a traitor because he was angry at being voted out. He wasn’t a good sportsperson. He’d have been better in the US series of The Mole where the majority of the contestants are very unlikeable.

Meryl and the others left in (already forgotten their names lol) would not have thought Will was a traitor except for what Keiron said after he was accused and indeed, AFTER he was voted out. They would have thought they'd found the final traitor and were splitting the prize between 4. Keiron broke the number 1 rule of the game which is that Traitors must keep the secret of the other Traitors.