Page 38 | William "screamed and shouted" at Harry.

felulageller · 2022-12-15T10:37:01+00:00

Ep5. So that's the big accusation we've been waiting for. Then a denial that he, Harry, denied William had bullied him and MM. Denying that you denied it so implying it was true that William was bullying them? Never liked William anyway. Hope he's never King.

MrsFinkelstein · 16/12/2022 23:29

MotherofKitties · 16/12/2022 22:25

I watched this with an open mind, and my conclusion is this; yes, she was subjected to a lot of hate and unfavourable comparisons in the media, some of which was borne out of racism (which is deplorable), but aside from any security threats that should be taken seriously, why read about yourself? There's bile out there but you don't have to read it; like social media it's there but you can choose not to engage or have it affect your life. Why give it any attention?

The issues regarding her father and half sister aside, the whole program came across as rather self indulgent and lacking in balance. I understand it's from their perspective, but it was hard to grasp how this has escalated to the situation it is now. If they'd taken the usual royal approach of ignoring the media all these issues that have consumed them would have gone away.

I don't believe that any of the palaces deliberately planted or leaked bad stories about Meghan because any negative publicity or gossip about any member - especially a senior member - of the family negatively affects the brand and the image of the royal family. Likewise I don't see how it can be true that Meghan wasn't allowed to seek help for her mental health; her husband was and is patron of multiple mental health charities - how can it be he couldn't or wasn't allowed to arrange help for his wife when he had access to the best healthcare and connections in the world? And in the Oprah interview he confirmed that the family didn't know about Meghans thoughts or what was going on, so if the family didn't know, and it was therefore some palace chap saying no you can't seek help, wouldn't you just ignore that and sort it yourself?

Overall I felt it was a real shame. They could have been a great asset to the royal family, but I understand not wanting to live in a goldfish bowl or having the constraints of royal life and wanting to be free from that - that's a more than reasonable desire, but the wish to have tax payer funded security when not full time working royals is not. I'm happy for them that they now have the life they wanted but I also hope they gain some perspective and take a step back - if the media and press causes this much stress and negativity for them, step away from it and ignore it. Otherwise, they'll just stay stuck in a cycle of negativity and victimhood with no one to blame but themselves.

This.
They were obviously both active on SM throughout this and it wasn't healthy for them.
As Wreck It Ralph said: Never Read The Comments.

I think it was one of the guys on the Behaviour Panel that likened this whole thing to someone writing out a 17 paragraph response to a stupid troll comment on Facebook. Very true.

PurpleButterflyWings · 16/12/2022 23:29

Autumn61 · 16/12/2022 23:15

Which one of you was left bitter and jealous? His wife was treated like a piece of shit because she wasn’t of lily white skin . The poor man has every right to be bitter. He has made the best move removing his family from the vitriol of the British press and the arseholes that believe everything they read .
I remember being in Spain as a young woman during the Falklands war . All the red tops had “Kill the Argie Bastards”, as headlines. A group of elderly people were ‘yeah fuckin’ kill the lot of them’. Found out later not one of the group , approx 12, knew where the Falkland Islands were. Around 5 thought possibly off the coast of Scotland!!!! I sincerely hope there is the dissolution of this outdated, ridiculous and expensive family et al in my lifetime.

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WTF have I just read?!

Emmelina · 16/12/2022 23:43

So much back tracking. I can’t tell what’s the real truth anymore to be honest.

Autumn61 · 16/12/2022 23:50

I don’t know, are you of the ‘ hard of understanding group’. I suggest you read it again…. slowly. It’s about people believing everything they read regardless of how outrageous….. hope that helps .

LondonWolf · 16/12/2022 23:52

You know when people fall out with families &/or friends and then go on FB and slag them off, and everyone rolls their eyes and murmurs to themselves about how undignified or "rough" it is to wash your dirty linen in public? That's what this is, but they're getting paid $$$ to do it.

ladygindiva · 16/12/2022 23:56

justgettingthroughtheday · 15/12/2022 11:46

No @Same1977 they have told their story. Their perspective. They haven't mocked anything other than themselves. They haven't mocked any of the traditions - which you would know if you had watched the documentary with an open mind.
What they have done is condemn the British media and their shitty behaviour. They have been treated appallingly by the press the entire time. Harry has been from the moment his mother died. His mother who wouldn't have died had she not been being chased by the British media at the time of her death and who was photographed dying by them instead of helping her.

But there is none so blind as those who cannot see. You have decided your narrative due to being manipulated by headline and bullshit propaganda.

This. In shedloads. You all sound ridiculous, and a bit stupid. As well as unpleasant.

Dibbydoos · 16/12/2022 23:59

Rockingcloggs · 15/12/2022 11:31

Why is it you believe Harry? Without clarification from William, Harry could be lying through his teeth.

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I believe Harry too OP.

William is very much a royal - you only have to know what prince George said in that threat about who his grandma was to realise that! Harry never seemed to be part of the Firm, he's always been more like his mum.

I hope he, Megan and the kids have a great life.

Coxspurplepippin · 17/12/2022 00:02

'you only have to know what prince George said in that threat about who his grandma was to realise that! '

Say what.......

maeveiscurious · 17/12/2022 00:06

No good will come if this, they must talk about this 24/7. Their relationship is not built of love, but a very childish outlook and entitlement . The narrative will become very boring

CurlyhairedAssassin · 17/12/2022 00:09

I believe them too. I’ve watched all 5 of episodes very closely, with an open mind from the start. Body language etc seems very genuine and natural. I’m shocked at the extreme opinions of people I see on here quite frankly, who haven’t profess not to have watched any episodes themselves.

It’s so exaggerated and over the top and actually all written in a very similar style that I’m starting to become suspicious; I wouldn’t put it past the “rota” to be writing the majority of these posts themselves, to keep the media frenzy going.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 17/12/2022 00:11

Excuse errors, got my glasses off and contacts out and typing sideways in bed!

musingsinmidlife · 17/12/2022 00:14

CurlyhairedAssassin · 17/12/2022 00:09

I believe them too. I’ve watched all 5 of episodes very closely, with an open mind from the start. Body language etc seems very genuine and natural. I’m shocked at the extreme opinions of people I see on here quite frankly, who haven’t profess not to have watched any episodes themselves.

It’s so exaggerated and over the top and actually all written in a very similar style that I’m starting to become suspicious; I wouldn’t put it past the “rota” to be writing the majority of these posts themselves, to keep the media frenzy going.

I am not surprised that the same people who took everything at face value in the series are the same people who are suspicious and think people are conspiring against them. Gullibility and conspiracy theories go together.

Ilikeredtoomuch · 17/12/2022 00:15

This!

Ilikeredtoomuch · 17/12/2022 00:19

AgathasCat · 16/12/2022 19:25

THIS! And then some!
I wonder how many have actually sat down with an open mind and watched the full series?
How can you not watch and see how plausible their story is? The words coming from their lips is still not as convincing as the tabloid fodder? The opinion of your mate on FB? Aunty Nellies words of wisdom cos she read in her magazine? I am astounded that hardly anyone sees the very frightening manipulation that is going on and I don’t mean Megan!
What about the discussion about how bots were spreading the hatred, does that not make you feel there is more wrong here than a family rift? Or did the lawyers make that up? “ oh but she has been caught out with her lies” says who? Daily Fail? Piece (of c?ap) Morgan? Why would this girl lie? Have none of you ever given an answer to a question and left out detail as you didn’t understand what they were actually asking? I can totally see how she has been constantly, deliberately misinterpreted but millions of you can’t? Because you KNOW her? Honestly I came away from this feeling sick for the nasty society we have become. These genuinely lovely people have rightly left this awful place and I hope they now find peace. As for the rest of them, I question what their purpose is in modern society.

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This

Cherry35 · 17/12/2022 00:28

All brothers/sisters argue, shout at each other at some point. To call it "terrifying" is obviously an over statement.

This happens many times even in good brother relationships and people are able to move on... He just has too much resentment and blames his family for everything.

Mamanyt · 17/12/2022 00:33

SO....the story here is that two brothers are fighting? All righty, then.

Inkanta · 17/12/2022 07:32

All brothers/sisters argue, shout at each other at some point. To call it "terrifying" is obviously an over statement

A reminder that Harry didn't say he was "terrified" of William. He said "it was terrifying to have my brother shout at me and my father telling lies while my grandmother sat taking it all in." Context is key.

MarshaBradyo · 17/12/2022 07:35

Inkanta · 17/12/2022 07:32

All brothers/sisters argue, shout at each other at some point. To call it "terrifying" is obviously an over statement

A reminder that Harry didn't say he was "terrified" of William. He said "it was terrifying to have my brother shout at me and my father telling lies while my grandmother sat taking it all in." Context is key.

This sounds a bit low to me the taking it all in part

He sounds so spoilt

MintyFreshOne · 17/12/2022 07:50

Obviously there will be shills and bot farms employed by both sides, seeing as they both have PR needs.

But I think the majority of posters will be genuine

boqq · 17/12/2022 08:05

What’s for sure is there is no space for monarchy in today’s world. Why is it acceptable that they live a life of privilege when there are people going without to feed their children? For me the pampered idiots should not be idolised anymore. I was really surprised that people did not revolt when Charlie took over after his despicable behaviour over the years. Re Harry and Meghan I’m fed up of their whining too as they also live a privileged life doing nothing all day but I believe that they were treated unfairly by both the media and the institution but this manipulation is normal unfortunately....

Inkanta · 17/12/2022 08:26

What’s for sure is there is no space for monarchy in today’s world

Tend to agree. H&M have rightfully lifted the lid on how it operates. The monarchy perpetuates the class system and that has no place in today's world.

MissMarpleRocks · 17/12/2022 08:29

Inkanta · 17/12/2022 07:32

All brothers/sisters argue, shout at each other at some point. To call it "terrifying" is obviously an over statement

A reminder that Harry didn't say he was "terrified" of William. He said "it was terrifying to have my brother shout at me and my father telling lies while my grandmother sat taking it all in." Context is key.

Sorry I don’t understand how it’s terrifying. I mean really come on. Families argue. Any family that doesn’t is weird imo.

He should see the arguments in my family & dhs. But then we are volatile Mediterraneans but it’s certainly not terrifying, we love each other, argue & make up a few minutes later. IMO you don’t argue you don’t care!

plicks · 17/12/2022 08:30

I felt pretty neutral about "H & M" before watching and even now think it's one of those situations we're both sides are probably massive wankers.

They are sooo annoying though, she is such a cheeseball who seemingly thinks ALOT of herself, but maybe this is just being American? It's quite jarring to my British self deprecating self.

The bit where she says the guy on the flight took his hat off and said "thank you for what you have done for our country" PUKE

The bit where she says no one asked if she was okay.

The bit where they say how UNBELIEVABLE it is that they would be living in a lovely quaint little cottage on palace grounds, the horror!

And the text from Beyoncé about her healing generational trauma or something.
Oh fuck off love!

SallyWD · 17/12/2022 08:49

Erm, I personally don't think it's normal for ADULT siblings to scream and shout at each other. I have 2 brothers and we have never screamed or shouted at each other. We're calm, reasonable people who like to rub along with each other and avoid drama. My parents also have siblings and they never scream at each other either. I've heard William has a nasty temper and is entitled (not at all surprising given his upbringing!). I'm sure H and M are pretty entitled too. I'm bored with the lot of them!

luluw41 · 17/12/2022 08:52

Yeah but ‘terrified?’ Really? Of his brother? If he had a knife in his hand fair enough, but otherwise?
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