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William "screamed and shouted" at Harry.

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felulageller · 15/12/2022 10:37

Ep5.
So that's the big accusation we've been waiting for.

Then a denial that he, Harry, denied William had bullied him and MM.

Denying that you denied it so implying it was true that William was bullying them?

Never liked William anyway. Hope he's never King.

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LaDamaDeElche · 16/12/2022 19:24

You have one side of a story. I find it so odd people are so over invested in this and are picking sides of people they don't know from Adam, when they've only heard one side. So odd.

AgathasCat · 16/12/2022 19:25

Mumkins42 · 16/12/2022 18:12

I'm honestly taken back by the bitterness and vitriol on here. I don't use MN much. Is this the norm? I am fervently anti monarchy for multiple reasons. I find it difficult to relate to M and H due to their wealth and privilege.

However... the way in which the media have mercilessly bullied, harassed and tormented this woman is so sickening. What's worse is the number of people jumping on the bandwagon buying into this media frenzy, calling her manipulative and all names under the son. Do any of you have daughter's? Mixed race daughter's? She absolutely has been treated as 'other' to the extreme by the media, I have no doubt what they say is true. We can see it with our own eyes if you read what the media has done here.

The context makes this more than just a brother screaming at his sibling. It's all that this represented. It was a demonstration that the name of the royal family ( if we believe Harry and M) was more important than the harassment and deadly bullying his younger brother and wife have been subject to. And they were spot on when they said this sort of thing is deadly. It is.

You don't have to like them to see how unpleasant this whole situation is - the media, the vile trolling, the gullibility, hate and bitterness so evident amongst the public.

THIS! And then some!
I wonder how many have actually sat down with an open mind and watched the full series?
How can you not watch and see how plausible their story is? The words coming from their lips is still not as convincing as the tabloid fodder? The opinion of your mate on FB? Aunty Nellies words of wisdom cos she read in her magazine? I am astounded that hardly anyone sees the very frightening manipulation that is going on and I don’t mean Megan!
What about the discussion about how bots were spreading the hatred, does that not make you feel there is more wrong here than a family rift? Or did the lawyers make that up? “ oh but she has been caught out with her lies” says who? Daily Fail? Piece (of c?ap) Morgan? Why would this girl lie? Have none of you ever given an answer to a question and left out detail as you didn’t understand what they were actually asking? I can totally see how she has been constantly, deliberately misinterpreted but millions of you can’t? Because you KNOW her? Honestly I came away from this feeling sick for the nasty society we have become. These genuinely lovely people have rightly left this awful place and I hope they now find peace. As for the rest of them, I question what their purpose is in modern society.

DownNative · 16/12/2022 19:25

Ilikeredtoomuch · 16/12/2022 18:03

It’s all the Sun and Mail bullying them. It should not be allowed. Don’t read it. Don’t fall for it

Was it just the British press?

Absolutely NOT which reminds me of another lie in Harry and Meghan's interview with Oprah Winfrey.

Media publications were shown on screen whilst they claimed the UK press were disrespectful to them. A number of the ones shown on screen were actually from USA and Australia. Yet the implication was the UK media were so bad they allegedly had to leave the UK.🤦‍♂️

This current Harry and Meghan Netflix documentary having footage of a Harry Potter Premiere and Katie Price court appearance to suggest H & M were the victims really isn't a new thing.

People should wake up to the clear manipulation Harry and Meghan's offerings have to date....🙄

antelopevalley · 16/12/2022 19:26

The narrative is that Meghan is a second-rate actress who never made it big.
AND
Meghan is an amazing actress who can make you believe anything is true.

Longleggedgiraffe · 16/12/2022 19:28

I beg to differ. Dirty linen doesn't have to consist of abuse and toxic relationships. I fail to see why complete strangers should, uninvited, have a ringside seat to our family squabbles. Full disclosure to the right people can help, but that doesn't mean the whole wide world need know about it.

antelopevalley · 16/12/2022 19:29

I think people have the right to tell friends about family arguments.

Talia99 · 16/12/2022 19:33

musingsinmidlife · 16/12/2022 19:24

I do think Harry and Meghan fell in love - at least with what the other person represented and hopefully with each other as people. I can't see Meghan sticking it out long term. I think she will get bored or be disappointed or feel held back by Harry and at some point strike out on her own. Right now she is still Harry's wife in many ways because he was the more famous one from the famous family. It is always about both of them and I think she will want the spotlight.

I hope they are both genuinely in love and remain happy together but if they aren’t, I’m faintly baffled by the idea (usually put forward by people who don’t like Meghan at that) that her moving on to a billionaire is just a matter of her deciding to do so.

Even if she snagged a billionaire (doubtful), look at how that worked out for Jerry Hall.

musingsinmidlife · 16/12/2022 19:33

Convincing and factual and true do not go hand in hand. People can be very convincing about things that are completely untrue. That is how cons and scams and charisma suck people into sending $$ or making poor life choices or whatever. On TV, clips are spliced and edited, music added, narration given, emotion created to be convincing so people will watch. Look at how many people are 100% convinced about conspiracy theories based on what they heard and read. They become passionate about their point of view. It doesn't make it true or factual just because it was convincing or evoked emotion for you.

Solonge · 16/12/2022 19:44

VinoDino · 15/12/2022 11:22

I'm taking everything they (H&M) say with the tiniest pinch of salt.

I find it quite amusing that so many people will buy the worst kind of newspapers...ones that dont report the news but have opinion pieces only, believe every bit of crap printed in it...by people who dont know any of the parties involved....but they get the story from the horses mouth....and come over all coy and dont believe it. People in this country need to get their heads out of their backsides and wake up.

HotChoxs · 16/12/2022 19:45

ToBeOrNotToBee · 16/12/2022 14:56

I think I'd scream and shout at my brother if he pulled the stunts H&M did

TBF last time I argued with my brother I left the Country and made a netflix series

threatmatrix · 16/12/2022 19:51

Yet Kate and Anne and Sophie thrive on it but then they have class.

browneyes77 · 16/12/2022 19:55

His mother who wouldn't have died had she not been being chased by the British media at the time of her death

Dianna died because the bloke who was driving the car was drunk and under the influence of prescription drugs and going twice the speed limit…..

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 16/12/2022 20:00

What the rift appears to me to amount to is that Harry and his wife wanted to be given many hundreds of thousands of pounds from the public purse as a sort of salary just for existing, without any requirement for them to do anything to earn it as employees of the government (which is what minor royals who are on the civil list and paid for performing public duties are).

This would have been over and above the many hundreds of thousands Harry inherited from his mother at the age of thirty (about eight and a half million pounds after tax, plus jewellery and other items of value) and the many hundreds of thousands of pounds left to him by his great-grandmother (the "bulk" of her £14 million estate; he now denies this, but didn't at the time it was announced) and the money given to him by his father (Prince Charles’s annual report, released by Clarence House in June 2021, shows he gave the Sussexes and Cambridges £4.45million between them that year.) Even if Harry had to pay tax on all of it he's hardly skint, and it is a simple lie to say the family cut him off: what about the money Prince Charles gave to his sons last year? He lives in a house valued at eleven million pounds; that's not likely to be a hovel, is it.

His complaint is that his grandmother, father and brother declined to go along with this plan of his – which he had announced to the public before getting their opinion of the deal with them that he had decided on. He doesn't quite dare to claim his grandmother was angry with him or raised her voice (she was an icon, he wouldn't be believed), so that leaves his brother to "shout" at him while his father, now the king, tells lies.

Whatever the other rights and wrongs, this sounds to me very much as if Harry was not in the right on that occasion, and it's likely that he knows it. Hence deflection: they were mean to him, his brother shouted. That takes everyone's attention away from what he had actually done, and puts it onto their being nasty.

Amanda747300 · 16/12/2022 20:10

I would love to ask H & M the following

  1. Are you able to easily feed and clothe yourselves and your kids?
  2. Can you pay all your bills easily?
  3. Do you have a beautiful home you own outright and can maintain easily?

If the answer to these questions is yes which obviously it is, then shut the f**k up, grow up and get on with it.

We don’t care if you fell out with your brother in front of your Granny and your Dad!

Danielle9891 · 16/12/2022 20:15

I honestly was happy for Harry and Megan when they left as Harry was born into this, he didn't choose it like his mum did. But now he's coming across as a spoiled child that spat his dummy out as daddy no longer pays his way and he is no longer in the fold.
He argued with his family, big deal.
Also his children shouldn't get titles as it should just be Williams kids that get it. I never thought it was a good idea for prince Andrews children getting a princess title when Edwards and Anne's children never.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 16/12/2022 20:19

Amanda747300 · 16/12/2022 20:10

I would love to ask H & M the following

  1. Are you able to easily feed and clothe yourselves and your kids?
  2. Can you pay all your bills easily?
  3. Do you have a beautiful home you own outright and can maintain easily?

If the answer to these questions is yes which obviously it is, then shut the f**k up, grow up and get on with it.

We don’t care if you fell out with your brother in front of your Granny and your Dad!

In answer to 3, no, they don't own their house; they have a mortgage. And to be fair to them, the repayments on that must be a fair amount.

(They could buy it outright now, out of the $115 from Netflix.)

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 16/12/2022 20:20

$115 million! Argh

Amanda747300 · 16/12/2022 20:24

😂

Talia99 · 16/12/2022 20:24

threatmatrix · 16/12/2022 19:51

Yet Kate and Anne and Sophie thrive on it but then they have class.

I don’t think they thrive, I think they cope. Not the same thing and not fair to them either.

CriticalAlert · 16/12/2022 20:29

Can't people see that all this RF hype is taking everyone's mind off the real issues in this country? We have a cost of living crisis that is killing people! Why don't we expend energy on that instead of a load of overindulged, overdressed, overfed parasites?

Sigma33 · 16/12/2022 20:29

Talia99 · 16/12/2022 20:24

I don’t think they thrive, I think they cope. Not the same thing and not fair to them either.

I don't presume to decide whether they thrive or cope.

I don't speak for them, I have no right to do that. Nor do you.

MadMadaMim · 16/12/2022 20:46

ItsHitTheFanNow · 15/12/2022 11:28

I don't believe anything they say. They've told so many lies.

An example of the manyies please.

Onnabugeisha · 16/12/2022 20:52

felulageller · 15/12/2022 10:37

Ep5.
So that's the big accusation we've been waiting for.

Then a denial that he, Harry, denied William had bullied him and MM.

Denying that you denied it so implying it was true that William was bullying them?

Never liked William anyway. Hope he's never King.

Brothers have an argument. Nothing to crow about. 🥱

cavalier · 16/12/2022 21:01

Megan is insanely jealous of Kate .. this is the centre of all the crap that is being flung … disposable people .. despicable people .. I hope they reflect one day when old but doubt it very much …

PeaceJoySleep · 16/12/2022 21:11

yeh, the core problem is that when she first met W&K they weren't instantly bowled over by her. Maybe they found her a bit performative. Who knows, but I can believe that they were warm, friendly and guarded. And that guarded bit infuriated Meghan. And Harry was angry too, that they didn't view her through the same lens he was viewing her through. so H&M perceived W&K's period of ''assessment'' as a narcissistic injury or an insult on Harry's judgment.

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