MAFSUK7 thread 3...NO SPOILER THREAD...Tom's eyebrows wagging, Gemma not shagging and Jenna is...still a vegan.

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On to the next thread...please don't post anything on here that hasn't been shown on the telly box, or hint at there being something 'out there' on insta or the daily snail cause we'll have to report it and get it removed so as not to ruin any surprises that are around the corner, despite this season being of little surprise so far. Those that want more gossip and info will find it without guidance!
Sheldoninabsentia...but hoping for a return....

Link to previous thread www.mumsnet.com/talk/telly_addicts/4634003-mafsuk7-i-closed-my-eyes-drew-back-the-curtains-to-see-for-certain-adrians-coupon-far-far-away-someone-was-gobbing-off?page=20&reply=120181989

I did laugh when the ixpert referred to "the v word". The look of consternation on Sophie and johnathan's faces was hilarious.

I think Gemma goes all in with things, including sex. I suspect she sees what she wants to see, rather than what is in front of her - seeing past her sexual stuff, she seems very needy in general and would probably overlook glaring red flags to get a dream relationship.

Matt and the actual sex pest Gemma: fuuuuccccckkkkiiiiinnngggg hell. Gemma sweetheart, your ‘banter’ makes my body squirm and you better believe if it was a bloke saying this, they’d be removed from the show for inappropriateness. I mean Matt is a huge walking, talking, aggressive, POS red flag but Gemma is grating. She’s so desperate. She doesn’t learn and they both just need to leave

This is bang on.

I feel Gemma is a lovely person waiting to energe from her cocoon, but right now I couldn't be in her company: she must think she's hilarious/ edgy/ rebellious to speak the way she does. She needs therapy, not to be on a TV show. In saying that, Matt is horrible: the way he's speaking down to her/ constantly thinking he's superior/ trying to be Mr Alpha is making me really angry. There needs to be an intervention before Gemm is seriously damaged.

Thanks for the shiny, new thread. I hope to see Sheldon 💛

I think it feels really disjointed, chopping and changing and missing out huge parts of the narrative. I wonder if they’ll do the boys and girls nights out like on MAFSA.

I’m surprised they’re all allowed to hang out together outside of filming, we miss so much and it’s really showing. I’ve not known it happen before as on the other series when people have been having affairs it was all secret meet ups, not everyone just in and out of each other’s flats.

I hope Matt n gem leave soon

If you were Gemma - skeleton key tattoo keep for your next relationship or go?

Even the experts are barely concealing that they just want drama rather than any semblance if reality.

Johnathan expressed concern about having any future outside of the experiment because of big lifestyle differences such as agreeing where to live and they shut him down and told him to live in the moment.

Again, George and April expressed concern regarding her finding it difficult to accept he had children and again, told to live in the moment rather than discussing it.

These are fundamental issues in a relationship. If there was any attempt to form an actual relationship they would be encouraging them to discuss it because it's a deal breaker for both of them.

It isn't just about Matt not liking Gemma's sense of humour, it is how she completely disrespects him by just pushing through any boundary he sets and pretending like she doesn't know what the issue is. At the dinner party, he said he needed space in in reply she grabbed him and kissed him on the cheek and this was repeated twice. She intentionally did the exact opposite of what he asked and so yes he got up and walked away.

I find it odd that people expect him to not react and to be happy and calm and pleasant about how she is treating him and that any frustration gets him written off as angry, rage filled man.

The experts are terrible. He basically trued to say he was frustrated at not being heard and they shut him down and said that him saying he finds her approach and language vulgar is too judgmental. They are supporting her in discrespecting him and I get why he pulls away or walks off.

That you watch this and think Gemma is lovely and Matt is horrible...is baffling to me.

If a man blasted through every boundary you or your daughter set, disrespected and ignored any requests for space, touched you when you asked him not to, was vulgar and overtly sexual even when unwanted - you would think - such a lovely man. And if your daughter got frustrated - you would be mad at her and tell her she was a horrible person for pulling away or setting boundaries or getting frustrated that her boundaries aren't respected?

So twisted and unfortunate to be teaching your kids that Gemma = lovely and Matt = horrible. So she needs to just shut up and take whatever sexual harrassment comes her way.

Let’s not forget that none of this is probably as black & white as we’re being shown - we know there is a lot that we don’t see thanks to the editing (or lack of filming in the first place…)

This is my take on the the Matt and Gemma situation midlifemusings but seeing others posts I feel like I'm missing something obvious. Like in the basketball video where you're meant to count passes and everyone misses the gorilla.

Duka and Whitney couldn’t be less suited. Absolutely no chemistry at all.

Whitney is miserable as sin. She has a wish list for a man, but what exactly is she offering? Maybe she’s not got over her mums death too. But she seems to offer very little personality and talks like she’s on a sex phone line.

Thomas is all about the drama. The showmanship.

April has a resting bitch face.

Gemmanisnt right in the head I don’t think. Seriously, she’s needs counselling.

Matt is an Uber twat. Something unpleasant about him.

As I said in the previous thread- George is wetter than a really wet weekend. He has four kids? How? !

Adrian with his fashion sense and hairstyle should be told that it’s no longer 1993!

👏 for the new spoiler-free thread!

Although I'm considering switching off because it's obvious all the good stuff is happening when the cameras aren't rolling.

That one time when Thomas walked off upset and Jenna followed him... when have we ever seen those two interacting as friends? It's all got too weird. Maybe the camera crew are too busy in the hot tub playing truth or dare to do some actual bloody work.

Someone in the previous thread accused Matt of gaslighting, controlling and abusive behaviour and said that their friend works in DV and said the same. I've worked/trained/volunteered with a DV charity and if a man had been behaving this way towards a woman they'd be phoning the police for sexual abuse. Its only "desperate and needy"

Pressed too soon.... because she's a woman. The "experts" should be utterly ashamed. Gemma is clearly quite vulnerable and should never have been allowed on the show on the first place. I feel very sorry for her eldest child who must be in secondary school, everyone must be talking about his mum's antics.

Someone mentioned on the previous thread 90 day fiancé. Can you watch it via Netflix or sky etc or is it on a payment channel?

I used to watch it ages ago when that woman was on it who looked like a Bo Selecta character (Jenny?)

@PoseyFlump I think it's on Discovery ? I only watch clips on you tube but wish I could see full episodes .. not enough to want to pay for extras mind 😂😂😂

I feel sorry for Gemma as she is clearly a very damaged individual - she’s estranged from her mum isn’t she, I expect her childhood was pretty traumatic and difficult. But. I also think Matt is an angry man who I would feel uneasy about.

I'm not a fan of posters declaring someone is violent etc just on a gut feeling.

Last year Franky was declared a literal wife beater on these threads by posters who 'know' all about these things. Turned out he was just a bit of a numpty who loved his mother.

I don't like Matt's little eyes but nerves can often make people 'seem' aggressive. I'm reserving judgment just yet.

Who was the woman in the green trouser suit who walked her down the aisle?

Just a friend who she called mum I think. I’m pretty sure she said she wasn’t her real mum.

@A580Hojas

It was her adopted mother. She was on MAFS Unveiled and seemed to be very grounded.

There's a difference between aggressive behaviour and being violent. I didn't say he was violent. No-one did.

No-one has excused Gemma's behaviour. Just as no-one excused Kasia and the sexperts. No-one has said Matt needs to put up with it. If anything, I'd say the general consensus is Gemma's behaviour is awful, probably rooted in trauma or very low self-esteem and that she needs therapy. The only person who seems to think Matt could fix her is Gemma - because she trusts the experts and the process. All us cynics on here think they should be far away from each other.

None of that changes all the red flags Matt is exhibiting. Everyone gets frustrated. It's how he manages his.

I'm not here to constantly argue with other posters. I don't know why posters are deliberately misreading and trying to start fights. It feels like being at a dinner party with April. It's no fun.

<looks for Thomas' shoulder to lean on before heading to the karaoke bar with him and Adrian>

@MelodyPondsMum I don't know if it was you so wasn't particularly saying you. I just recall someone saying DV which I presume they meant Domestic Violence. Like I say, it's all a bit strong for me for the little we've seen so far of Matt. Just my opinion.

Hopefully we can get back to talking about stuff we actually know (even if it is edited to fuck)