The Tinder Swindler - Netflix

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If anyone needs another reason to avoid online dating, this takes it to another level! It's hard to believe this guy got away with it for so long.

@Cocolapew

I wonder if Ayleen was getting him clothes? Either free or heavily discounted.

Yes, I got the impression that she was supplying him with all his clothes. She probably didn't realise he was completely using her in that way. Well, she did realise in the end!

@airbalonz it's strange indeed why would the mother and baby be coming along. Its been playing on my mind this morning I enjoyed watching it.

The amount of money he spent alone in 3 days, flying in a private jet.... I mean how much alone did that cost? It looked like he would of been spending a lot more than the women would have given him. The banks... do they lend money like that so freely?!

Society treats single women in their late twenties/thirties as if there's something wrong with them and feed girls a diet of Disney Princesses. Then get surprised when young women fall for a scam involving a man sweeping them off their feet, love bombing them and offering to fly them round the world and giving them a taste of a glamorous lifestyle.

The victim blaming on this thread is off the chart. Many of you saying you're far too clever to fall for something like this. I bet you're all far too clever to end up with an abusive partner as well. He groomed them and we're not all as immune to grooming as we'd like to think.

I don't think people are victim blaming... but at the end of the day they are adults and I don't see anything wrong with posters simply saying they played their role in it too. I do agree with part of what your saying though about older women dating.

Have you checked out the ladies Instagram pages? They look like they are living there best lives cecilie imparticular and she stated herself she's still on Tinder. She has every right but as a viewer watching The Tindle Swindle.. it doesn't look great does it? And the Gofundmepage.... well each to their own I guess.

I do blame the victim for their part in this though 🤷 He wouldn't be able to do what he does if people weren't obsessed with material things and looking rich These people got a lesson, hopefully they've learned it. They were victims insofar as they got scammed, but they very much put themselves in the position to be so with their shallow behaviour.

Was the swindler of no fixed address (other than that rundown flat in Israel where his mum was) he seemed to just constantly be in hotels or on jets

I dont think im too clever to fall for a scheme like that. Im just naturally suspicious and would find it hard to believe that a billionaire would be interested in me. I know we would have nothing in common.

He chose his victims wisely

Same, I'm not too clever, I just don't like showy, shallow people. Flashing cash does fuck all to impress me. If you have a kind heart and morals with some intellect and humour that does.

Same. I was put off by pictures of sailors and yachts

Someone upthread said he chose his victims wisely from the off, weeding out those that are more cautious from those who are impulsive, and that's so true. Most people just wouldn't get on a plane to fuck knows where within a few hours of meeting a guy - we've all heard the horrific trafficking stories and watched 'Taken'. A lot of people wouldn't even go back to a guys house on a first date, nevermind in a private plane. So straight away he knows who's willing to go further and who isn't..and he also knows who's impressed with the flashy money and glamour and who isn't.

Yes, i never gave anybody any money but the first few "relationships" i had i bought in to their perception of themselves (as marketed)
One guy in particular presented himself as having a growth mindset, being a feminist, kinda buddhist, in to jungian psychology, philosophy.... freedom.

It was all a bit true. But he used me so badly. He ignored all of the boundaries between a friendship and a relationship and i somehow was hoodwinked in to it b3cause i bought in to his calm, free, non-attachment bullshit philosophies.

I did come to when he told me he was a voyeur.

So my point is, van I judge?
What i long3d for at that point was freedom. I had so much responsibility and he had none.
But in the end i ended up pitying him. Never said that to him. But i look3d at him at thought, where have all your studies, masters, degrees and intellectual notions got you. You're just wanking on the street while an exhibitionist fucks her husband with the l8ghts on. Dear god its shabby

People don't come in neat little boxes labelled 'victims'.

Obviously they did not deserve what happened to them, and the only criminal is 'Simon' and his sidekicks. But that doesn't mean we can't discuss what motivated these women to fall for such a con. Had they not been so easily impressed with flashy material wealth, would they have been so quick to believe that a 'billionaire' would pick up frankly unexceptional woman on Tinder, fly them off on his private jet and talk about marriage within months?

As I said above, I don't think it's that different from men in their 50s being conned out of their life's savings because they think a pretty young Ukrainian woman they meet through a 'matrimonial agency' is going to fall madly in love with them.

@Gilda152

I do blame the victim for their part in this though 🤷 He wouldn't be able to do what he does if people weren't obsessed with material things and looking rich These people got a lesson, hopefully they've learned it. They were victims insofar as they got scammed, but they very much put themselves in the position to be so with their shallow behaviour.

Whilst this is true, it also works the other way around. Think of all the reports of (usually) older women who are lonely and believe they have found the love of their lives on the internet or on holiday. Usually targeted by younger men who tend to have very little. They get scammed out of life savings by thinking they are going to get the loving relationship they have always wanted at the end of it.

Whether people are taken in by a lifestyle, promise of a life partner etc the intent is the same - to tap into a vulnerability or desire and using it to obtain money by lies and deciet.

The mistake he made was choosing intelligent women ! Loved the 3 rd one saying 'hi Simon ' 🤣...

@Iamnotamermaid oh absolutely.

Seema002

I felt sorry for the women, but they fell for it because of their own greed.

The Norwegian woman was kissing him on the cheek on his private jet on their first date and saying she felt this 'connection'. Like the connection had nothing to do with the private jet. hmm Did she not wonder why a billionaire would suddenly have his head turned by a pretty, but average looking woman?

The whole thing just showed them up for being vaccous and vain.

The older Swedish woman (claiming to be 31 confused) was hanging in the sidelines being a hanger on of this lifestyle. All that talk of being an independent woman was BS.

I feel very sorry for the woman, particularly the Norwegian woman who ended up £250k in debt. That's shocking. But, seriously?

Completely agree with you.

I wonder if he had any other sources of income? Drugs?

The jets, clubs, clothes, meals out and hotels would have been tens of thousands pw

Cecilles £250k wouldnt have
Stretched far and pernilles contribution would only have been one weekend?

There must be hundreds of
Women out there. Where are they?

@bananaleafy I agree with you. I think the women have come from well to do backgrounds... you can see from their social media pages tbh they don't look like they are in kind of debt. In fact they clearly are living better than us!!

@bananaleafy

I wonder if he had any other sources of income? Drugs?

The jets, clubs, clothes, meals out and hotels would have been tens of thousands pw

Cecilles £250k wouldnt have
Stretched far and pernilles contribution would only have been one weekend?

There must be hundreds of
Women out there. Where are they?

Yes, I have read speculation that he may have 'friends in high places', which might explain how he got off so lightly.

The money he got from these women wouldn't last long with that sort of lifestyle. That journey by private jet alone would surely be well into the thousands, and if he was paying 5k a night for hotels, he'd run through that money in a few months tops.

Maybe there were myriad of women who didn't want to be filmed.

Saw this on an Aldi FB post. Made me giggle.

I love Aldi !

The threat of his life constantly was such a crock of shit. Couldn’t believe they kept buying that lie.