22 kids and counting

[Blondeshavemorefun]

What happened to thread last night

Had gone this am. Didn’t know why

I watched it this am. Can’t believe Noel Got Heidie name wrong on birth certificate

I found it very interesting they made a point to show them reading to their kids at bedtime after on the earlier C4 shows they said they don't read to them and they received a lot of stick for it on here

I noticed this too. C5 clearly let them control the narrative more.

However nice they seem, it pisses me off that, qwith both DH and I earning good salaries, there's no way we could afford to take the 5 of us to Australia. We mostly stick to UK holiday cottages (which are still a financial stretch for us). Neither could we afford to spend £300+ on birthdays. So either they're receiving loads in CB, or they're getting paid by companies to travel / buy certain items. Either way, they're not completely self sufficient as they continue to claim.

Either way, they're not completely self sufficient as they continue to claim.

Of course they're not. It actually astounds me anyone thinks the pie shop magically funds everything. I mean surely you don't need to be a maths genius to work out the numbers simply cannot possibly add up?

I thought the whole program was basically one staged scene after another. I find it also quite odd that they think people will believe this is an accurate portrayal of their day to lives especially when there youtube vlogs and the many other programs show the complete opposite. Do they genuinely think people wont remember the content they have put out before this show?

The taxpayer does foot the bill though -practically a classful of children to educate, use NHS etc. Unless the educate privately and use BUPA as well out of the pie shop takings

@TwoPupsAndaHamster

22 kids is ridiculous but so long as the tax payer doesn’t have to foot the bill, then let them get on with it

It’s amazing how a small pie shop can feed all that lot at £400 a week for groceries, plus all the rest of the household bills, clothing etc tbh. I wish I knew how they do it 🤔 Have they ever said how much the pie shop makes per annum? I think I need a change of career

All business accounts are available at companies house. I have heard that Noel pays himself just under the child benefit limit... Odd that.

I thought the whole program was basically one staged scene after another... Do they genuinely think people wont remember the content they have put out before this show?

Apparently plenty have short memories, there's still a fan club who think they're simply amazing, although I expect they'll think that regardless of what they say and do.

It does look like this new show was a bad idea though. They haven't recieved anywhere near as much support as they did in the past. Lots of people questioning the figures, and how much of it is exaggerated or completely made up. The portrayal of a struggling family one minute, and then spending £300+ on one birthday the next has opened some eyes. It seems their web of stories and lies is slowly beginning to fall apart.

Why are the threads so policed on here? I just had a quick look on tattle and posters there say whatever they like without deletion. They put themselves out there on social media and TV and make ridiculously untrue claims about how they live and make money ("Radfrauds" 🤣). Of course people will criticise. Suck it up, buttercups.

Agree spending 350+ on birthdays is insane for one child let alone 22 (21)

It does look like this new show was a bad idea though. They haven't recieved anywhere near as much support as they did in the past. Lots of people questioning the figures, and how much of it is exaggerated or completely made up. The portrayal of a struggling family one minute, and then spending £300+ on one birthday the next has opened some eyes. It seems their web of stories and lies is slowly beginning to fall apart

I do wish tv stations would just stop exploiting people though . I think whatever your opinion on the family, the kids aren't old enough to consent to any of it and they will have have live their lives and raise their own families dealing with it all long after the TV channel drops them for someone who can eat 50 doughnuts in 4 mins or something equally uninspiring.

The public are also harsh. I.mean you could do everything right but someone will still say awful things because they noticed you got your chicken from.asda.

I have noticed alot that people who get you tube channels and media interest etc seem to so easily move away from what was the initial appeal. They actually look bored having to say or do or talk about what originally brought them to public attention. They eventually detach from the image if being an every day person we cold all relate too and sympathise with to lifestyles beyond our comprehension with perks that no one.else would ever get . Like regular people aren't good enough anymore.

Not saying that specifically aviut them it applies to pretty much anyone who's ever done a vlog. But no one who gives people TV air time seems to stop them from alienating theor loyal followers and becoming something completely out if touch with the audience

I got bo sympathy that they are always on the go. Their choice so many kids. I thought that re neighbours esp when they had the film night in the garden.

I do wish tv stations would just stop exploiting people though . I think whatever your opinion on the family, the kids aren't old enough to consent to any of it.

Whilst I completely agree that the children shouldn't be exploited I don't think it's fair to say it's the tv channels doing the exploiting in this instance. These parents are vlogging and showing every aspect of their children's lives and using them for the sole purpose of gaining money and 'fame'.

The only reason some of these children have been born is so they can continue to do this. I think the knowledge that you were not actually wanted because they wanted a child but instead knowing you only came about because your parents needed some more children to continue gaining likes, money and tv deals will be much more damaging in the long run.

@TheRogueApostrophe

Why are the threads so policed on here? I just had a quick look on tattle and posters there say whatever they like without deletion. They put themselves out there on social media and TV and make ridiculously untrue claims about how they live and make money ("Radfrauds" 🤣). Of course people will criticise. Suck it up, buttercups.

So annoying how mumsnet deletes all trace of stuff about them.

Whilst I completely agree that the children shouldn't be exploited I don't think it's fair to say it's the tv channels doing the exploiting in this instance. These parents are vlogging and showing every aspect of their children's lives and using them for the sole purpose of gaining money and 'fame'

Oh I do agree with that as well. Truth is though most people don't deal well with "fame and fortune " and I think someone somewhere along the line should have told them to pack it in. I say this alot but people need to realise their followers aren't their friends and they will "egg them off a cliff" if given half a chance. Its not that they want to see you do well they are just waiting fir you to fall down.

Imo having moved away from a regular family set up just bigger where you could relate to the mistakes and the dramas, they are now all glammed up and kitted out with piles of stuff and holidays most of us can only dream of...they are just not who tbe public were interested in anymore.

Unethical?

Look at the number of parents on here who love nothing more than to comment in this family and discuss them.

TV is full f programmes that put children in the public eye, up for comment and dissection.

Wife Swap, Rich Family Poor Family (or whatever it is called), Supernanny.

If you find it unethical turn it off. (I don’t watch any after I see children’s lives and privacy invaded).

Oh, and the class thing is blatant. No endless criticism of Our Yorkshire Farm which also features an enterprising family ‘branding’ their life for extra cash, because they are ‘wholesome’.

I dont watch any of that stuff either.

As I said earlier I dont give a crap about the benefits thing. That could be any of us at any time and to make it a USP is just bizarre. If they lost there jobs tomorrow they would still be exactly the same people as they are now.

Mind u I'm old, you used to have to have a talent or something really interesting or special about you to appear on tv. Now you can destroy yourself with plastic surgery or raid bins for coupons and someone comes along and says " hey want a tv show we will.pay you for more surgery..."

Course something happens and the tv companies just drop you.. look.at the duggars, honey boo boo, Jeremy Kyle etc

Apparently some of their fans have been saying that the local authority should 'give' them a teacher for the purpose of home schooling! 🙄

@Whatwouldscullydo

Whilst I completely agree that the children shouldn't be exploited I don't think it's fair to say it's the tv channels doing the exploiting in this instance. These parents are vlogging and showing every aspect of their children's lives and using them for the sole purpose of gaining money and 'fame'

Oh I do agree with that as well. Truth is though most people don't deal well with "fame and fortune " and I think someone somewhere along the line should have told them to pack it in. I say this alot but people need to realise their followers aren't their friends and they will "egg them off a cliff" if given half a chance. Its not that they want to see you do well they are just waiting fir you to fall down.

Imo having moved away from a regular family set up just bigger where you could relate to the mistakes and the dramas, they are now all glammed up and kitted out with piles of stuff and holidays most of us can only dream of...they are just not who tbe public were interested in anymore.

Yes I think I agree with the last paragraph actually

purple I.mist stress that wasn't about them specifically. I used to watch a few people on you tube. Nothing special. But the appeal to me was they were regular people discussing regular things, reviewing regular products that we might all be able to afford and loved to see put in use. Then it all gets monetised and there's 3 breaks in a 7 minute demonstration of an air fryer. I'm.not saying no one should ever buy something with money they earnt, but then they start to look bored being asked to review something like hang on that's why I was here,..

I think its the fact things stop adding up that annoys me the most. Like were you lying then or are you lying now?

Merching kids, having dozens of kids, getting pregnant at 13, goals! This thread will go poof soon as all threads that don't laud these people for over-breeding do.

I know someone says this on every Redford thread, but it's so sad that none of those children will get decent quality time with their own mum or dad. Even if the parent is physically 'there' with a child, with so many things to constantly be done, their mind can never be fully on them.

Of course they're not. It actually astounds me anyone thinks the pie shop magically funds everything. I mean surely you don't need to be a maths genius to work out the numbers simply cannot possibly add up?

You only have to take their own figures from the programme and the maths doesnt work.

I think they would get less criticism if they said they did claim some benefits (which they are obviously entitled to do) or got an additional small income or gifted items from their youtube vlogs.

To say in one scene that they're going to struggle to put food on the table and pay bills, while in another say you spend £300 every birthday, (and christmas?) and then get a hot tub and a garden revamp ...doesnt tally.

Btw I've seen criticism of the Yorkshire farm on here too.

If an 18-year-old gets a 13-year-old pregnant in my country they are prosecuted not made into a reality televison star.

The only reason some of these children have been born is so they can continue to do this. I think the knowledge that you were not actually wanted because they wanted a child but instead knowing you only came about because your parents needed some more children to continue gaining likes, money and tv deals will be much more damaging in the long run.

Yep, it's sad when you stop to think about it. Of course they were a big family before the TV programs and YT vlogs, but as you say they've continued to expand their family to help keep the public interest and media spotlight.

I know back when they first started doing TV programs some of the children were very vocal about not wanting anymore siblings, so I can only imagine how they feel after their parents have added several more into the mix.

The timing of this is just wrong. People are struggling financially, plenty of people are having to put off starting families or having to juggle work stress and home schooling.

Rubbing their wealth (and yes £300+ on a birthday is wealth) in people's faces is just asking for a backlash.

It's totally different to Yorkshire Farm, where there are less than half the number of children and they clearly show each child getting 1:1 attention from a parent. And they don't play up the poverty angle at all. The farm is all about working hard and being productive.

Comparing this program to Yorkshire Farm is like comparing apples and oranges. On Yorkshire Farm they don’t keep banging on about not claiming benefits when they very obviously are and they give their children one to one time and don’t shower them with mountains of plastic stuff just for the sake of it, instead of handing things down between children which is what happens in most families regardless of the amount of children.

The Radfords think they’re just like the rest of us and are relatable but they aren’t. During the pandemic, when most people have had to tighten their belts, they’ve moaned about cancelling a holiday to Australia, bought a brand new Range Rover, bought a brand new Peugeot SUV, revamped their garden complete with hot tub and are now doing extensive house renovations. They expect us to believe that this all comes out of a £50k salary. It doesn’t and it can’t.