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Harvey and Me

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2021namechanger · 25/01/2021 21:43

Yes it should probably be in telly addicts - but Aibu to think Katie Price has really done a great thing in doing this documentary.

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TheVolturi · 27/01/2021 15:23

I have so far only seen the first ten mins, I will watch the rest tonight, but Katie is a fantastic mum to him and he's a credit to her. She gets so much hate online, I really hope she sees this thread!

friendlyflicka · 27/01/2021 18:32

Just watched the documentary and then read these comments. I don't know much about her other than headlines on magazines I see when I am queuing. I have nothing against her, but I think all the comments on here casting her in such a rosy light as a mother are rather sentimental.

TinaTurnercorner · 27/01/2021 19:18

All the deleted posts just goes to show how disability hate crime, not only to the disabled, but their carers is rife and getting worse.

BeforeThisThenWhat · 27/01/2021 22:29

In the interests of research 😅 I’ve just watched a youtube video of Katie Prices - it was the one that shows her son Juniors birthday. It’s shows junior coming to Katie’s house and opening his presents with (most of) his siblings and Katie - I know they know the camera is running but all the kids are adorable. They are so polite and they are really affectionate towards each other and Katie. Junior was lovely to Harvey and kept kissing and hugging him - it was sweet to watch.
Katie really does seem like a good Mum.

RootyT00t · 27/01/2021 22:46

Katie was saying in an interview that she has found herself hoping Harvey goes before her as she can't cope with the thought of him managing without her

I hope the (few, right enough) posters gleefully tearing her apart never have to even think like that let alone live it

RJnomore1 · 27/01/2021 23:15

The consent issue isn’t just him being happy though (and I certainly didn’t say he was forced if thst was aimed at me) it’s about the ability to provide informed consent and understand the implications.

Anyway I realise I’m setting the ethical bar too high for effectively light entertainment but it still leaves me with that unease. I can’t shake it.

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 27/01/2021 23:20

I watched this programme today, I thought KP did her best for him. All her kids seemed really sweet.

I hope Harvey gets into the college he liked.

RootyT00t · 27/01/2021 23:56

@RJnomore1

The consent issue isn’t just him being happy though (and I certainly didn’t say he was forced if thst was aimed at me) it’s about the ability to provide informed consent and understand the implications.

Anyway I realise I’m setting the ethical bar too high for effectively light entertainment but it still leaves me with that unease. I can’t shake it.

It comes down to what you believe about her intentions.

I'm no KP fan but that documentary was a good thing.

Whiskyinajar · 28/01/2021 09:41

@TinaTurnercorner

All the deleted posts just goes to show how disability hate crime, not only to the disabled, but their carers is rife and getting worse.
Pop over to Tattle, some people dislike her so much they can't see behind the hatred of her or give her any credit at all.

I say that as a Tattke member as s the KP thread there is horrific, I have read it but wouldn't bother posting there as none of the posters can accept anything positive. Some of them claim to be parents of very disabled children too!

Whiskyinajar · 28/01/2021 09:41

I suspect there is a Tattle crossover here given some of the posts I've read on this thread...I suspect most are deleted .

CottonSock · 28/01/2021 09:45

I enjoyed the programme. Did wonder if the timing was a bit off. I.e. before the local authority funding decision. Trying to put pressure on?

minibike · 28/01/2021 09:52

Tattle is just horrific. Awful place

DumplingsAndStew · 28/01/2021 10:16

@CottonSock

I enjoyed the programme. Did wonder if the timing was a bit off. I.e. before the local authority funding decision. Trying to put pressure on?
Perhaps so, but why not? Harvey is a UK citizen and as entitled to an education and care that meets his needs as anyone else is, regardless of his families income or who they are. I read somewhere that Katie was always told to fight for his care as you don't know what the future brings. She could lose all her money, his father could stop providing financially (someone suggested upthread that he has stopped now that Harvey reached 18), that something could happen to her and her ability to provide for him, and in any case it is best that he is "in the system". That is absolutely correct. Parents of children and young people with additional support needs have to fight every step for what they need, and if this is a way Harvey might be more likely to have his needs met, then good for them.
AlternativePerspective · 28/01/2021 10:22

one of my colleagues used to work at Great Ormond street. She said that KP was rarely seen. Nannies used to stay with him. how easy to make up something like this “one of my colleagues” while hiding behind a username, yeah right. Probably you made that up and claimed it was a colleague to make it sound more authentic.

Except if it was a colleague then both she and you deserve to be fired for having no respect for patient confidentiality. After all, if she’s a colleague then you’re a nurse also, yes? And quite happy to disclose a patient’s personal information, even though that isn’t your patient.

AlternativePerspective · 28/01/2021 10:23

Also, we know only too well how easy it is to make up something about someone famous, put it out there and before you know it it’s being quoted as fact.

AlternativePerspective · 28/01/2021 10:29

I am no fan of KP and have said as much elsewhere, but the relationship she had with Harvey couldn’t be faked. It’s just not possible with a child like that.

Every person he came into contact with had to form a relationship with him from the outset, sometimes it worked, others, such as with the first college, it didn’t. If KP wasn’t a constant in his life he would never have that kind of relationship with her.

Also, how is it that on one thread people are showing sympathy for a woman who snapped and killed her severely disabled child Saying it was disgraceful that she didn’t even have respite, and on this one KP is being criticised for doing what most parents of such severely disabled children do at this age, having to make the decision to put them into residential college, not only because they as parents are unable to manage their behaviour, but also because even a disabled child has the right to transition into adulthood within their abilities.

Incidentally, the number of children who are at SN schools who are either fostered or adopted is astounding.

A parent is never criticised for e.g. feeling that it’s all too much and choosing to place their child in foster care, or for deciding that they couldn’t cope with a disabled child so deciding to terminate a pregnancy.

But here we have a parent who clearly does have a bond with her disabled child, who is capable of smashing up the house on a bad day, and she is being criticised for what? For being Katie Price?

It just goes to show that no amount of money can change what happens in your life, but it seems that being in the public eye changes people’s expectations of how you deal with it.

terrywynne · 28/01/2021 11:22

All this 'left with the make up girl' nonsense too. The 'make up girl' is a person too, maybe she is a family friend, someone he is safe and familiar with.

I was thinking this! I imagine Katie Price has her hair and makeup done a lot. If she has one trusted person for several years they could be a family friend by now who Harvey is familiar with and trusts more than a trained carer who is a stranger.

I don't agree with everything Katie Price does or the way she has spoken to people online but I believe pps who have said she couldn't deescalate Harvey without a close bond.

The truth is that a documentary following ordinary people in this situation would not get anywhere near the amount of publicity and attention that Katie Price does. So whatever you think of her, she is making people aware of the issues facing parents when their children need residential colleges etc.

NonCisWoman · 28/01/2021 11:36

Harvey does have an incredibly bad parent, but it ain't Katie Price.

louise4745 · 28/01/2021 22:19

I hope his dad is ashamed after seeing this

JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows · 28/01/2021 22:34

I used to watch all the ITV KP documentaries years ago (pre and existing Peter Andre) and she was always so devoted to Harvey form the day he was born. he went absolutely everywhere with her, she didn't ever do the nanny thing and their bond was so intense. I think she's done an incredible job.

TinaTurnercorner · 29/01/2021 20:47

Katie was saying in an interview that she has found herself hoping Harvey goes before her as she can't cope with the thought of him managing without her

^^ I know, I'm a lone parent
So I unfortunaelty have to think the above too, as DCs wont survive without me, and NO ONE is willing/able to deal with them as I have to, I just hope I can die 5 seconds later, seriously, cos as hard as it is, I cant live without them either.

TinaTurnercorner · 29/01/2021 20:50

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/telly_addicts/4146879-Katie-price-and-Harvey

just found this elsewhere

Housing101 · 29/01/2021 20:56

Must be hard work. She's very patient with him. And so are the other kids.
She's doing a good job with him. She's not perfect, noone is.

Couldn't believe the high cost of the care. Crazy. Hope he gets the necessary support for the best future possible.

RootyT00t · 30/01/2021 00:23

@TinaTurnercorner

Katie was saying in an interview that she has found herself hoping Harvey goes before her as she can't cope with the thought of him managing without her

^^ I know, I'm a lone parent
So I unfortunaelty have to think the above too, as DCs wont survive without me, and NO ONE is willing/able to deal with them as I have to, I just hope I can die 5 seconds later, seriously, cos as hard as it is, I cant live without them either.

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Teenageromance · 30/01/2021 11:01

I loved this - I would say KP has a natural knack with children with disabilities - you could see it not just in the way she interacted with Harvey but when she met all the mums and their adult children. It really was quite marked the way she can speak in a direct but non patronising tone. In Harvey’s interactions with people she didn’t over talk for him or try and overly manage the situation (I know I do this with my son). It’s really quite subtle to get that balance right and to have a completely non judgemental attitude and I thought she was amazing at it.