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2021namechanger · 2021-01-25T21:43:27+00:00

Yes it should probably be in telly addicts - but Aibu to think Katie Price has really done a great thing in doing this documentary.

RootyT00t · 26/01/2021 02:25

@Worried234

A 'bloody good parent' she is NOT.

I said that , so care you tell me why you disagree instead of just capitals equal to a foot stomp so there?

RootyT00t · 26/01/2021 02:25

@Grenlei

It shows she's not much of a role model or example to anyone. It's also an illustration of what being nasty is, as against my own comments.

I don't agree any child should be regularly shown on social media and abhor the various people on social media who do this. There is a difference between making a documentary which can be sensitively and professionally filmed, and shine a light on issues around disability and funding, and sharing the minutiae of your lives (and that of your disabled child who will never be able to give informed consent to the use of their image) on social media.

Right so the documentary is OK, do you think?

Grenlei · 26/01/2021 02:45

In principle, a documentary on disability issues which includes sensitive and considerately filmed footage of a person with disabilities is in general terms acceptable despite the fact that person cannot give consent.

StormcloakNord · 26/01/2021 02:58

I don't usually weigh in on these things but I don't think it's completely out with the realms of reasonableness to assume she's not that great of a mother.

The fact she's had so many children with so many different men isn't exactly great in itself, she's constantly going away for surgeries, along with more holidays to recover from said surgeries, her house is a bit of a disgrace really (as can be seen by the many YouTube videos and documentaries she has done), she often films her kids or uses the filming of her kids to make money which I don't really agree with in itself. She also moves men in and out of her children's lives quite often and quite dramatically - I don't really think that's appropriate given the age of some of her children. Plus, it's a shame for Harvey to form bonds with these men then have them disappear. It can't be good for his own stability/routine.

donewithitalltodayandxmas · 26/01/2021 02:58

I can't believe some of you know so much about a person you clearly do no like .
The documentary was good and highlighted a lot , we also don't know what was cut out and not filmed etc .
I say that bond was not fake so she must be doing something right.

StormcloakNord · 26/01/2021 03:04

I should add after @donewithitalltodayandxmas 's post -

I don't dislike KP. I don't know her to dislike her, but she does choose to live her life very much in the public eye so I don't think it's unreasonable that people will form opinions on her based on that very public life.

In my eyes, and my standards, she isn't a good mother 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Hampotsandonions · 26/01/2021 08:01

@Rosebel

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Where was it wisely reported and by whom? The tabloids?

Prader-Willi syndrome (which is what Harvey has plus autism) is a genetic condition caused by the loss of function of genes in a particular region of chromosome 15. People normally inherit one copy of this chromosome from each parent. Some genes are turned on (active) only on the copy that is inherited from a person's father (the paternal copy).

^ This is from the NHS website.

I think you should ask for your posts implying that KP caused her son's illness to be removed.

Pinkmarsh · 26/01/2021 08:02

@Rosebel

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No I don’t know any of those things, because I don’t know her and have never asked her. Because we only know what we read in the press. The 3 main conditions he has are NOT caused by anything she has done. The press speculated before anyone knew what his disabilities were exactly because that’s what they do. Print crap and people like you lap it up and believe everything you read.

Hampotsandonions · 26/01/2021 08:03

widely not wisely?

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OneInEight · 26/01/2021 08:06

PRADER-WILLI syndrome is a rare genetic condition that affects one in 15,000 children in England. Not something that is caused by drinking and drugs.

DumplingsAndStew · 26/01/2021 08:07

@Rosebel

Your comments are disgusting. You've already had your previous comment reported and deleted, yet you still keep coming back for another pop.

OneInEight · 26/01/2021 08:24

I have no idea how good a parent she is to her other children but the programme showed she clearly has a great relationship with Harvey and from personal experience this is not so easy when you have a child who can lash out in meltdowns. And let's face she is clearly a better parent to Harvey than his dad who (if I take the programme at face value) has no involvement with his son's life at all. She is also arguably a better parent than me because I can not bring myself to push my child with SEN (of similar age) out of his safety net of home even though I worry what will become of him when I am dead and gone. The programme also missed that SEN colleges only cover a few years and there will have to be another transition for Harvey at some point & what this next step could be for him.

Hampotsandonions · 26/01/2021 08:29

@StormcloakNord

I should add after *@donewithitalltodayandxmas* 's post -

I don't dislike KP. I don't know her to dislike her, but she does choose to live her life very much in the public eye so I don't think it's unreasonable that people will form opinions on her based on that very public life.

In my eyes, and my standards, she isn't a good mother 🤷🏻‍♀️

To be fair to KP she lived her life in the public eye before she had any DC too. That's how she makes a living.

And do you not think that many of our parental "standards" might be impacted if we were responsible for a child with very severe intellectual and physical disabilities?

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 26/01/2021 08:35

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Esspee · 26/01/2021 08:38

@donewithitalltodayandchristmas Yes indeed. Adults have no right to exploit their children to make money.

AwaAnBileYerHeid · 26/01/2021 08:40

Harvey doesn't know his dad, when he's not with her (most of the time) and not in residential care he's left with a variety of other people, some qualified, some not.

@Grenlei how do you know who exactly she leaves him with and what their qualifications are?

AwaAnBileYerHeid · 26/01/2021 08:45

@Rosebel

Can you link to any credible evidence that shows that septo optic dysplasia, prader willi syndrome etc is caused by the mother taking drugs and drinking while pregnant? No, you can't.

What a horrible creature you are

Fizbosshoes · 26/01/2021 08:50

I saw a calmer and caring side to her in the programme and his behaviour is obviously very challenging, not least now that he is so much bigger than her. And for a lot of his life she has dealt with the situation as a single parent. Dwight Yorke apparently contributes finacially (as he should) but was not actually present to share the load of caring for and parenting a child with very complex needs.
I know she has several holidays without him, and I don't begrudge having respite from him, as with all carers .
However she insisted that he won't cope without her and she is the only one who will understand him. As I understand he has been at a residential school for a few years (so that he didn't have to cope with the journey each day) so he has learned to be without her. Before covid he was there during the week (we saw them face time each other) and comes home at weekends. The head teacher at the school said he was doing very well, and he is obviously cared for there by well qualified and trained teachers and staff. This doesn't take away from the fact she has been his sole carer and parented him singlehandedly for most of his life, and will be a huge transition but it isn't the first time he will have been cared for by someone else and I think that is a little insulting to his school where he has apparently done very well.

Irre247 · 26/01/2021 08:53

I have no idea where her kids live, no major opinion of her parenting, it’s none of my business.

But I can say both me and my ex have photos of our daughter playing in the snow on Sunday, because it is possible for children to start the day in one house and end it in the other!

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 26/01/2021 08:55

And again in terms of her care of Harvey - those of you who think she's doing a great job with him, how do you square that with her allowing him to be shown regularly in her social media when he is unable to give consent to this? Especially when he is sometimes shown partly clothed, dishevelled, distressed etc. Can that be in his interest at all? He can't benefit from that

I think it does a lot more benefit to him than harm. You don’t question her showing her other kids, Jet had his top off in the show- or is it just the disabled kid you think shouldn’t be shown.

CallmeAngelina · 26/01/2021 09:20

@Irre247

I have no idea where her kids live, no major opinion of her parenting, it’s none of my business.

But I can say both me and my ex have photos of our daughter playing in the snow on Sunday, because it is possible for children to start the day in one house and end it in the other!

Not when the parents live many miles apart and those photos and videos show them in bed in the place they were playing in the snow earlier.

BeforeThisThenWhat · 26/01/2021 09:29

onlyFoolnMothers*

I think it was ok to have Harvey appear I this documentary - he knew the filmmaker well as it's the same person who has worked with KP for a number of years. He may not be able to give consent as we would but I'm sure he would have made his feeling know if he hadnt wanted to be filmed.

Are you suggesting you can never have people on TV unless they are able to give full consent. How would that benefit people with severe cognitive disabilities? They would end up being hidden away.

I think the way Harvey has been shown to be a 'person' with his own character who fits into a real (albeit slightly weird😅) household is very, very positive.

We need more people like him on tv not less.
What about younger children in general? Do you think they shouldn't be on tv either?

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 26/01/2021 09:33

@BeforeThisThenWhat

onlyFoolnMothers*

I think it was ok to have Harvey appear I this documentary - he knew the filmmaker well as it's the same person who has worked with KP for a number of years. He may not be able to give consent as we would but I'm sure he would have made his feeling know if he hadnt wanted to be filmed.

Are you suggesting you can never have people on TV unless they are able to give full consent. How would that benefit people with severe cognitive disabilities? They would end up being hidden away.

I think the way Harvey has been shown to be a 'person' with his own character who fits into a real (albeit slightly weird😅) household is very, very positive.

We need more people like him on tv not less.
What about younger children in general? Do you think they shouldn't be on tv either?

I think he categorically should be shown on tv and magazines, I was responding to someone else who implied he shouldn’t because of lack of consent!