WandaVision

[NovemberNameChangeYeahBaby]

Is anyone else looking forward to this? Once it finishes, The Falcon And The Winter Soldier starts, and then Louise after that. After 2020 being a Marvel-less year I am quite excited for a big dose of MCU escapism.

[Maze76]

@CannotOperateOnThisFailure

I told you Tom Cruise was the cameo!

What? I missed him!

[Maze76]

Loved the whole season and I’m now very excited for Falcon & Winter Soldier!

[LetsGoFlyAKiteee]

I liked it!!! Felt a little bit rushed could've done with another episode esp after qhite vision just went off...but such a lovely goodbye!! And midcredit scenes oooooh

Surprised my guess on Pietro was right hahah.

[HalleLouja]

Wow. I didn't think I would cry but omg. Was so well acted.

[Figgygal]

I cried for the last 20 minutes
Knew all along she would have to let him go but still couldn’t cope when it happened
Them tucking the boys into bed before the hex was lifted

Not that bothered by Falcon and winter soldier but will watch it obviously
looking forward to Loki

[LemonViolet]

Well.......

Hmm I dunno.

Well written, well acted. Emotional. Yes I cried. They are fantastic actors. Witch on witch and vision on vision battles were brill (although unfortunately my mind went to fighting pigeons which made some things unintentionally comedic). Vision out-logic-ing White Vision was brill (but yeah, then White Vision just wanders off? Huh?) The mid-credit was a nice payoff on the Skrull reveal. And the end-credit gave some hint of why Wanda was able to give up her children - she thinks she can get them back.

But........
Paul Bettany is a dick, the cameo was himself.
The casting of Evan Peters was just trolling us
No multiverse
No big bad reveal
Feels a bit like Marvel was just toying with us with all the hints and stuff and then going “ha ha, made you look”.
Didn’t really seem to set much up for the rest of MCU ongoing.

So I feel a bit deflated after the first watch. I may revise this opinion! But I feel like they under-delivered somewhat on this, although what they did do, they did very well.

[LetsGoFlyAKiteee]

Did suspect Pietro would be nothing after last week..but thought after hints dropped about other people which led to nothing.. shame. Especially the cameo that was bigger up like the one in the star wars series...who did that turn out to be lol

[Figmentofimagination]

I have so many conflicting emotions. It frustrated me but I also loved it.

Wished Monica and Darcy had bigger parts in the finale.

Don't like that we've been left hanging with White Vision.

[APurpleSquirrel]

Interesting final episode. I cried, was awful to see her say goodbye to Vision & the boys.

However I don't agree that nothing much has been revealed or set up for future films/shows.

1. White Vision now has Vision's memories & has obviously had to go away to process this. So White Vision is Vision just without the Mind Stone? Same powers, capabilities & now memories. Wanda said the Westview Vision was her part of the Mind Stone - so has he essentially passed this on to White Vision too in the shape of his memories?
   
2. Wanda's power as Scarlet Witch is chaos magic - & Agatha said something about the source being the Sorcerer Supreme? This all leads to Dr Strange 2.
   
3. Wanda can now astrolly project - but unlike most sorcerers she can do it whilst awake & functioning. Didn't even Dr Strange have to be asleep/meditate to do this?
   
4. She has Agatha's book - the one missing from the library in New York
   
5. She hears her children which implies that they are alive in some form somewhere else - another multiverse? Or something else? What will she do to get them/save them?
   
6. Agatha is still around, albeit in a sitcomified form in Westview meaning she is likely to reappear at some point.
   
7. Monica is obviously now going off on her own arc into space to reacquaint with Nick Fury - will this lead into Captain marvel 2?
   
   I agree that the big reveals weren't evident - no cameos or big splashy 'Multiverse' reveals but I'm betting as with anything Marvel things will become clear as time progresses & we'll rewatch WV in time to come & go 'oh yeah they set that up then!'.
   
   I am annoyed however at Darcy's minuscule role this week & then to just write her out, off-screen. That felt shoddy & rushed. I hope she'll have a bigger role in something else soon. Maybe she's gone off after White Vision? He did have a tracker after all.

[Comefromaway]

Dd who has read the comics (but is now going to re-read Young Avengers said something about Wanda creating the twins from shards of Mephisto and now he’s reclaimed them back.

They are reincarnated and are separated in the comics then find each other again when they are older.

[KatherineJaneway]

I want to rewatch I as I suspect I missed a few things. I did get sidetracked expecting a big reveal but that clearly didn't happen.

I did think at one point that White Vision would leave with Wanda but it's clear he went off but I doubt it's the last we have seen of him.

[LemonViolet]

Obv all those things are left to continue in other films/series.... but there just wasn’t a satisfying “ta-da!” moment where all the strands come together like we were all expecting, it feels very piecemeal. 4 of your 7 points are from the mid/post credit scenes which are generally exciting tantalising extras and connections, not the main storytelling. One mention that she was more powerful than the sorcerer supreme isn’t exactly an exciting direct set up to a multiverse of madness is it.

And who was Jimmy’s missing person after all????
Was Monica’s connection that bought the space rover Skrull as well (there could have been an aside comment in their last interaction, thanks for the rover or something, but they still didn’t explain who major goodner was or how Monica could just call on that military team despite having been away for 5 years).

I’m sad I still have a sense of dissatisfaction today unfortunately. I think WandaVision has suffered from the time it has been released in, we are all so exhausted and burnt out from living through the pandemic and lockdown, there has been literally nothing else good going on so a lot of hype developed around it and I guess it would never be able to live up to all of that! Usually fan theories are outlandish and slightly insensible and you can see why the storytellers don’t go with them; but with this a lot of the fan theories seem way more interesting and exciting than what actually happened.

I’m mostly peeved they completely trolled us with Evan Peters, what was the point of that, and the non-event of the
“cameo” being Paul Bettany himself. I feel like they deliberately messed with fans and with the world as shit as it is right now that’s way less funny than it might be otherwise. Again, victim of timing.

[JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown]

I really enjoyed it. I knew we weren't going to get everything but thought they did well with it overall.
My only real gripe is that I don't get how QuickSilver wasn't Quicksilver considering we not only saw his powers but he was able to keep Monica locked up? Surely, all that power didn't just come from a magic necklace controlling him?
That's probably my biggest disappointment. Evan Peters is brilliant. It would be a real shame if that's all we see of him in the MCU.

[LetsGoFlyAKiteee]

So Agnes kept mentioning her husband Ralph..guess we finally met him! Still a bit unsure about all that but the goodbye was lovely!! Sad but lovely..

[AndreaMarteau]

I’m mostly peeved they completely trolled us with Evan Peters, what was the point of that

Was it trolling though? I thought it was just a really clever joke, for anyone who's seen both Avengers and X Men.

While I enjoy watching the fan theories on YouTube etc, I do think modern tv programmes suffer with fandoms running away with themselves and inventing complex imaginary scenarios that the shows are never going to deliver. Sometimes it's just justified (as in Game Of Thrones) but I don't think that was the case with WandaVision. I think it was a beautiful portrayal of enduring love and grief and that was enough (for me). It set up plenty of stuff that's hopefully going to be explored through the next few Marvel series and films. A slow burn is fine.

[middleager]

I will miss this. Like Figgy I'm more interested in Loki than FATWS.

I feel happier that Vision stored those memories in White Vision as the thought of him existing with no memory or emotion (as in the comics) is too sad to contemplate. It gives me hope they will be reunited.

I enjoyed the 'Captain Marvel 2/Photon' seeds being sown and I'm sure we'll see Agatha again when Scarlet Witch needs her.

All in all I was happy about the ending... apart from the Quicksilver stuff.

[LemonViolet]

Yeah, I think trolling is a fair assessment! It was intended to lead people to believe that a multiverse crossover was imminent. All for a boner joke. Same with Dottie not being anything to do with “the key to everything in Westview” and casting Emma Caulfield for that part, it was deliberately to misdirect people.
comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/wandavision-dottie-emma-caulfield-confirms-trick-fans/

So, yeah, massively takes away from the enjoyment of the otherwise excellent episode.

[LemonViolet]

And who was Jimmy’s missing witness protection person?!?!? Did they just forget about him?

[Echobelly]

I don't think it's a Dr Strange film it connects to, but there is a planned Dr S series for Disney+ and I think they've already said Wanda will feature in it.

It was an OK end - I was hoping it might be a bit 'cleverer' than that, I agree with some who felt it made it just another big Marvel film style climax rather than following up the subtltly and smartness of the series.

[LetsGoFlyAKiteee]

It's been confirmed Wanda will be in Doctor Strange 2..so leading onto that..

[melj1213]

I’m mostly peeved they completely trolled us with Evan Peters, what was the point of that

Was it trolling though? I thought it was just a really clever joke, for anyone who's seen both Avengers and X Men.

I would definitely say it was trolling. Disney are not idiots, they would have known that casting the Peter Quicksilver Maximoff (rom the FOX X-men franchise that they had newly bought) to play Pietro Maximoff (who had been killed off) in an MCU series set after Endgame, where the idea of multiple realities was setup, that is supposed to lead into the Dr Strange movie that is explicitly about the multi verse would have the fans talking about the idea of filtering X men characters into the MCU.

Instead they played it for a "boner" joke, which just feels like a slap in the face and is nowhere near the MCUs usual "smart" style with payoffs

[APurpleSquirrel]

This is probably me just clutching at straws but what if the missing witness protection person is Ralph Bohner ie Quicksilver & he is in witness protection?
Just a thought...

[melj1213]

I really liked WandaVision but I feel like it fell a bit flat at the end because of the format. I wasn't expecting a big fairytale "Happily ever after" but it just felt a bit meh to have it just end and the big cliffhanger climax be two 30 second mid/post credits scenes.

Marvel are used to creating big budget blockbusters with clever little connections that tie everything together as a whole phase. They have trained the fandom not to discount anything - who would have thought when watching the Avengers mid credits scene that the Thanos cameo would have such a huge payoff nearly a decade later? - and the little loose ends would be talked about, but because you got the story as a whole in one big chunk they were, rightfully, sidelined by the main story arc of that particular movie. It meant that people had something to discuss/speculate on as a link to the next movie release.

By releasing WandaVision weekly, and having episodes be so short, it gave the fandom 7 days to analyse every little hint/loose end/suggestion in conjunction with the actual comics that the story have been taken from. When the creatives and cast themselves were encouraging such theorising then it just feels a little flat for it all to just end so abruptly.

[littlewedding]

Questions:

1. when vision spoke to Agatha at the edge of the hex a few episodes back, he appeared to disable and re-enable wanda's spell/control. Was Agatha just acting all along?
   
2. how will Agatha be still under the hex spell/sitcom situation now the hex has lifted? Looked like everyone else was released when the spell was lifted. Has Wanda made it so Agatha is still under the spell?

[Shelleyjelly80]

@APurpleSquirrel I thought that too! Although I'm not sure why he would be in witness protection 🤷🏻‍♀️