WandaVision

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Is anyone else looking forward to this? Once it finishes, The Falcon And The Winter Soldier starts, and then Louise after that. After 2020 being a Marvel-less year I am quite excited for a big dose of MCU escapism.

I like x men days of future past
And Logan also

I found Logan extremely and excessively violent which is a shock compared to the other films.
I also hated that they involved the farm family because it was obvious what would and did happen. I didn't think there was any need for that.

It was like watching Kill Bill!

We’re getting through it but is was desperately slow to begin with. We were a few weeks late starting so watched 4 episodes in a row and now being back to one a week is torture. Why can’t they let people binge like with Netflix? And on disney plus you never know how many episodes there are coming. Find that infuriating.

OMG, we love this!! It’s so retro that it’s only on every week so no binge watching.

And on disney plus you never know how many episodes there are coming. Find that infuriating.

You can usually check on IMDB. There's 9 episodes in total.

*I found Logan extremely and excessively violent which is a shock compared to the other films.
I also hated that they involved the farm family because it was obvious what would and did happen. I didn't think there was any need for that.

It was like watching Kill Bill!*

Logan Is a 15 but yes the violence was a shock to us too I thought it was brutal and Ive not watched it since the cinema DD has the dvd still in the wrapper!

Paul Bettany named 3 actors who were an inspiration to him growing up: Marlon Brando, Robert De Niro and Al Pacino. There is a rumour that Al Pacino did have talks with Marvel. If it is him, given he's played the devil in The Devil's Advocate, if it is him, it wouldn't be too difficult to see him playing Mephisto.

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A lot of people are down on the later Xmen films but I don’t know, I enjoy Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix, I think they’re well worth a try. Logan was totally different - very good, but totally different. Has anyone seen New Mutants?

Just watching YouTube videos on WV ep 7 (you can lose HOURS to this stuff!) and one of the Easter eggs pointed out is that when the twins’ game controllers regress through various older consoles and end up as Uno cards; that this harks back to young Monica playing Uno with Talos’ child in CM.

I’m calling that Major Goodner = Talos’ daughter and (turns out) lifelong buddy of Monica since they were children. Or at least that’s my personal canon until proven otherwise

Like that idea!

@Jasmin82

Paul Bettany named 3 actors who were an inspiration to him growing up: Marlon Brando, Robert De Niro and Al Pacino. There is a rumour that Al Pacino did have talks with Marvel. If it is him, given he's played the devil in The Devil's Advocate, if it is him, it wouldn't be too difficult to see him playing Mephisto.

My guesses weren’t far off then. 2/3.

I was thinking of one as Mephisto.

I presume that Disney want people to remain subscribed, rather than do a weeks free trial, binge watch the lot and then cancel.

Their following on from Netflix and Prime where they did release episodes each week of Picard, Discovery, Snowpiercer etc. Keeps the interest and discussion going over a longer period of time.

What did you all think of the significance when one of the twins said Agnes's house was quiet and she was quiet 'on the inside'? Loving the theories so far!

Agnes wasn't controlled by Wanda so she has no inner voice like the others.

I assumed it was because Agnes is also a magical being, so she might have barriers in place to stop someone reading her thoughts.
I don't think it's about being controlled by Wanda because he could hear Vision and Vision seems to have his own autonomy, even if his surroundings are controlled.
I'm also curious what this means about Quicksilver.

@StylishMummy

What did you all think of the significance when one of the twins said Agnes's house was quiet and she was quiet 'on the inside'? Loving the theories so far!

I think it's Agnes that's controlling the people. Westview itself might be Wanda's doing but I think the people are under Agnes/Agatha's control.

My thoughts, if anyone wants them...

I love the idea up there ^^ that MG is Talos’s daughter, going with that!

I also love that it’s weekly despite really wanting to binge it. It’s great having something to look forward to and it has a bigger impact, I think about it more (and discuss at great length with DS and my colleague)

I’m rewatching the earlier episodes and listening hard - as someone said before, everything is in the script for a reason. I’be only done the first two and some of these are in the easter egg YouTube video but so far.....

....Agnes saying that Dottie is at the centre of everything in Westview so am wondering if she has more of a role later

.....when they all chant ‘for the children’ which supports the idea that it’s all about trying to get Wanda’s kids (for their power?). Also Agnes was helping her with seduction techniques

....when Dottie says ‘the devil’s in the detail’ (referring to the show we’re watching?) and Agnes says ‘that’s not the only place he is ha ha’. I’ll eat my magician’s hat if her rabbit isn’t Mephisto.

Agatha All Along was superb and the bit where Agnes says to the camera “actually I did bite a kid once” It was SUCH a good episode. Elizabeth Olsen is absolutely bloody fantastic

I've had a name change fail whilst creating a discussion thread for Falcon and The Winter Soldier, whoops.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/telly_addicts/4174400-Falcon-and-The-Winter-Soldier?watched=1

I think Senor Scratchy is supposed to be Agatha's son Nicholas Scratch, who (I think) is a baddie?

I wondered if Dottie is more involved which would be great as I love Emma Caulfield. Maybe she is somehow connected to Mephisto or possibly Nightmare?

There was a grainy clip in one of the spoiler trailers a while back of what looked like Magneto but that could have been from one of the X Men films as I haven't seen them all. Also not sure if it was an actual clip/spoiler.

The actor that Paul Bettany wanted to work with 'all his life' must be relatively ageing as PB is 49 so must be at least in his 60's. Could well be Patrick Stewart but definitely not De Niro!

He and Martin Scorsese gave an interview a couple of years back where they were quite 'curmudgeonly' about the Marvel films and implied that they weren't 'proper' films like theirs. Unless De Niro is in desperate need of rent money...

He and Martin Scorsese gave an interview a couple of years back where they were quite 'curmudgeonly' about the Marvel films and implied that they weren't 'proper' films like theirs. Unless De Niro is in desperate need of rent money...

Well, De Niro did do that absolutely terrible Kia ad not so long since so maybe he is desperate 😆

But seriously, I hate it when the Marvel films are slagged off as not being 'proper' cinema. If you don't like them, fine, but IMO, they're what going to the cinema is all about. They're the only films I've been to in recent years where the theatres have been packed (and I've seen some of them more than once). It's a shared, spectacular, entertaining experience with a captive audience that you can watch with all the family. Not everything has to be 'art' or made for a certain select audience to be good.

As opposed to The Irishman which was a total borefest, and in which RDN plays the same character as he plays in every other Scorcese film. In my opinion 😝

I'm a single parent and to be honest, after his abusive Dad, my son's only male role models in a realistic sense (esp since lockdown/Covid) have been Marvel characters.

Which sounds desperately sad, and is, but he could have far worse ones.

I can't see any problem with big budget, family aimed, hugely entertaining Marvel blockbusters which are teaching the kids who watch them about courage, strength, selflessness, teamwork, friendship and following the right path, even if it is the more difficult one.

About making hugely tough choices, often to your detriment, because it's for the greater good. That society matters and people matter and no single person is more valuable than others. That if you have the ability and opportunity to help others, then it's the right thing to do. And that friends are loyal and have each others backs during the tough stuff.

My son could have far worse role models than that. This is the point that Scorsese missed by a mile.

Christ The Irishman was utter crap! It was so long & boring & dull & just a complete bad rehash of Scorsese's actual good films.
Plus the fact they utilised the facial imaging tech developed FOR Marvel films & then slagged them off smacks of sore grapes to me.

Patrick Stewart is the best male role model anyone can have (IMO)

I know im late but here are my thoughts
-i Dont like the kids not sure what will happen to them as marvel wont kill them off but how can they exist? who is their dad?
-since its emulating sitcoms it can be too cringy sometimes. for instance darcys escape being blocked just drive around them!
-love agnes twist actress has a very expressive face which makes her good to watch still dont think she created the hex tho
-sucks to be vision he was a hero and doesnt even get good treatment by gov after death

Me and Dd saw Sir Patrick and Sir Ian in a play a few years back and they did a Q&A after it I might have fangirled slightly, Patrick stewarts voice oh my

I saw Patrick Stewart and David Tennant at RSC, I love Tennant too but Patrick Stewart was effortless.