Coronation Street: AKA Ray and Debbie’s Hotel Babylon Luxury Knocking Shop. NO SPOILERS!

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New ’un.

Whose turn on the storyline merry-go-round will it be this week?

I felt like it was badly put together tonight. The second episode should have just been have just been about Oliver. They should have missed out the strange scene in the street with them all stood apart, instead they could have shown each character at home devastated, perhaps Steve and Tracey with Amy and Emma, Simon and Peter, Gail and then the ending being Leanne on Oliver’s bed crying with You are my sunshine playing instead the theme music.

I wasn’t keen on the storyline in the first place but I felt if they were going to do it then they should have done it properly and made this a powerful episode.

The standing on the street was weird. Leanne and nick wouldn’t have gotten out of their car/taxi there, they live round in Victoria court. Also, it very much feels like it is Leanne’s storyline. Like Steve is the equivalent to Nick or Tracey rather than Oliver’s father and just as affected as Leanne.

I haven't watched it, I couldn't.

@Thesearmsofmine

I felt like it was badly put together tonight. The second episode should have just been have just been about Oliver. They should have missed out the strange scene in the street with them all stood apart, instead they could have shown each character at home devastated, perhaps Steve and Tracey with Amy and Emma, Simon and Peter, Gail and then the ending being Leanne on Oliver’s bed crying with You are my sunshine playing instead the theme music.

I wasn’t keen on the storyline in the first place but I felt if they were going to do it then they should have done it properly and made this a powerful episode.

Totally agree with this, I’m sure they did this once with a scene a while back and Gail was narrating over, but for the life of me I can’t remember what it was about but I remember thinking how well it was done at the time.

@ZaraCarmichaelshighheels was that one where Gail was looking out her living room window? I can’t remember what that was about.

That was Aidan's suicide

Am I the only one who thought the scene on the street was actually quite powerful? Showed that they had support around them, think it could have been somewhat of a comfort for Leanne especially how she's been treating them all recently? Shows they'll always stand by her. I was quite moved by all of it, especially when you saw Nick breakdown

Yes it was Smallsteps88 I remember it being very moving and yes thank you excelledyourself it was Aiden’s suicide, I really should have remembered that, as at the time it really had an effect on me for a couple of days afterwards, they did that so well and I think Oliver’s death deserved the same standard, it could easily have been done I don’t think Covid is an excuse, solo shots of everyone coping with their own grief would have done it the justice, it didn’t even need dialogue to convey the pain they would be going through. We really didn’t need Emma making cauliflower cheese for the family and Nick asking if Leanne would prefer lasagne or cottage pie, I know they were trying to convey some form of normality and coping mechanisms in the aftermath but it just felt too soon for that, maybe in the following episodes but not tonight’s.

Yes the scene on the street was amazing. It showed how they just couldn't bear to go back to their lives without him. I also thought Jenny was exceptional tonight.

There was no "so soon", we weren't given a timescale, it could have been hours

Of course.
I think it was just bad editing.
Normally if someone is in one place then somewhere else, they have another scene in the middle to give a sense of time, but they didn't with this which is why I found it strange.

I didn't even understand all that pub stuff, it was awful.

The Jenny/Jonny thing was beyond awful. Emma also massively irritated me, wittering on about cauliflower cheese.

Simon seemed to be the only other one where any reference was made to him going and saying goodbye. No Amy, Gail, Toyah, etc. And so little touch implied between the parents and Oliver.

I just found it really quite odd and rushed.

But Leanne's face during the wet pyjama scene was heartbreaking.

I thought the standing in the street scene was very moving - thinking no-one knows, and then Tim is looking through the window, recognising their grief, but they don't know it.

The Jenny and Johnny thing would have been more effective if there was less of it. I thought the idea was probably quite good - contrasting a different type of family trauma - but they overcooked it and made it into a panto.

For once, I thought Nick was excellent when he cracked, and then obviously felt he had to pull himself together.

I really didn't engage with this storyline, largely through Leanne's nastiness towards everyone, but I thought it was done well at the end.

I like Nick, and I liked the scene with him and Steve where he told Steve not to doubt himself

I've felt really bad for Nick during this. It's like he doesn't know his role. He's been just as much Oliver's dad. (Did Steve know he was the dad straight away?) But I found the Sam storyline unnecessary just now.

Just read up on Leanne. Forget Nick disappeared for over a year

The cauliflower cheese / cottage pie stuff was stupid. As if anyone would think anyone would want to eat after that.
It was really rushed and very odd not to have anyone else say goodbye. They really should have bubbled them all as well, it made nick look very cold keeping Leanne at arm’s length the whole time.

I personally do really want a cauli cheese now tho

Did anyone else know Amy was allergic to diary? That’s the first I’ve heard it mentioned.

Why didn't Jenny or Jonny mention to Margaret about Aidan, surely that may have diffused the situation a bit?

Did anyone else know Amy was allergic to diary? That’s the first I’ve heard it mentioned.

Samuel Pepys’s or Adrian Mole’s? (Sorry, couldn’t resist )

It was a storyline years ago. Amy was getting ill and a dairy allergy was suspected. Steve and Tracy pulled together because they were worried about her and Amy enjoyed them being nice to each other for once, so kept drinking milk on the quiet to keep herself ill.

@Smallsteps88

Did anyone else know Amy was allergic to diary? That’s the first I’ve heard it mentioned.

I'm sure it was a storyline when she was much younger and the scriptwriters have suddenly remembered, a bit like Tracy's kidney transplant or David's epilepsy.

Looking back at the Oliver storyline it seems to me there was a bit of a cop-out. It would have been very interesting to see how the writers would have ended it had Oliver's condition not deteriorated, which in the end was what forced Leanne into acceptance. The hospital had already applied to switch off life support before that happened.

I feel it was a bit rushed towards then end as well. Between the decision to let him go and actually doing it wasn’t long at all.

I think amy actress probably remembered the milk allergies and reminded the writers .
In Ireland everyone cooks when there is a local bereavement, all kinds of random food appears. So that seemed normal to me. Then mothers in law try to force people to eat random lasagne or casserole.
The whole Johnny thing annoys me. Jenny was doing well in the pub, I thought, pre covid

@Queenoftheashes

The cauliflower cheese / cottage pie stuff was stupid. As if anyone would think anyone would want to eat after that. It was really rushed and very odd not to have anyone else say goodbye. They really should have bubbled them all as well, it made nick look very cold keeping Leanne at arm’s length the whole time.

You can't just "bubble" people.

These are real people who presumably have their own families to go home to. A support bubble is a single adult household linking up with one other household, for support. You don't get to force people into bubbles just because they work for you!