Coronation Street: AKA Ray and Debbie’s Hotel Babylon Luxury Knocking Shop. NO SPOILERS!

[StillCoughingandLaughing]

New ’un.

Whose turn on the storyline merry-go-round will it be this week?

I realise he’s not her actual nephew but he’s her partner’s twin’s son - most people would have some sort of internal taboo preventing them being interested. Plus Sarah’s husband, betrayal of Peter after one of many rows which obviously wasn’t a real break up. It’s just ridiculous!

Oh and re. Michelle’s son - she actually was related to him wasn’t she since she turned out to be a Connor by birth

Maybe a few more people would help? I don't think my neighbours have so active a social life! Also their family members don't tend to live in the same street. (Except the woman 2 doors down and her family who don't realise lockdown means lockdown)

I am sure she slept with David as well a few years ago
Yeah, it was when she was plotting Charlie's murder iirc.

Tracy slept with David?? When ?

Cross post, sorry!

I feel sorry for Paul but he does need to work on expression #2. Todd’s so going end up in bed with Billy or frame it so someone else is.

I hope we don’t have to watch Leanne do this until Christmas Day. This year we need something uplifting pleaseeee

@Notrightbutok

I am sure she slept with David as well a few years ago Yeah, it was when she was plotting Charlie's murder iirc.

No it was when she came out of prison for that murder. She slept with Nick and David within days of each other.

I'm liking Toyah at the moment, feel really sorry for her having to tread on eggshells every time she speaks to Leanne.

I agree @Clawdy

No it was when she came out of prison for that murder. She slept with Nick and David within days of each other.
@PoloNeckKnickers
Thanks. Carla needs to bed Dev to even up the score, I remember Tracey doing that 😂

I hope when Oliver's time comes the key characters isolate together for a bit, or is that too much to ask of actors? I just don't see how he can die without at least some of his family hugging and comforting each other. Maybe that's why they have chosen this route for Leanne, lashing out at people, so everyone is at odds instead of comforting each other? If Oliver dies at Christmas i am done with Corrie for good i think, I want a bit of bloody cheer at Christmas, we need it after the year we have all had.

Totally agree @Deadringer

I liked the Geoff bits last night, he is getting more and more furious. And Tim testifying against him will be great!

I wonder what his options are now?

Leanne has alienating everyone close to her, I find it all a bit much. I know you would be angry in this situation but even those trying to help her get the sharp edge of her tongue as she just keeps repeating that they all wish Oliver dead.

I think of of the (many) problems I have with the Leanne storyline is that her anger isn’t realistic.

I used to work with children who had siblings with terminal conditions, and in all the families I met I don’t think I ever saw anger or spitting rage aimed at professionals. Mostly, they were so incredibly thankful and appreciative - really just amazingly courageous and dignified.

I know there are exceptions but I do feel as if it’s portraying bereaved or about to be bereaved parents in a really unfavourable light which I feel is wrong.

I think the scriptwriting around Leanne is appalling, @Roussette. I do think it's partially the acting as well though that I'm having trouble with. I just don't bother watching the hospital scenes.

Ian Bartholomew (Geoff) on the other hand can read the back of a crisp packet out loud and make it sound menacing or unhinged or emotional, as he wishes.

I glad I'm not the only one who has reservations about Leanne hitting out at everyone. I don't like this storyline one bit, did they think viewers would take her side because of seeing real life cases like Alfie's Army?

I just don't think Leanne is a character who gets people to empathize with her. She just attacks everyone. So although you feel sorry for the situation she is in, my sympathy goes to those around her.

I just imagine trying to support someone like Leanne but every time you open your mouth she lays into you, or spits venom at you... like Steve has to put up with. I'm not sure I could ever go back to liking that person again. I know she's hurting but she is vile to absolutely everyone and now is turning on the only one left... Toyah.

Thank you ahorse for saying you have never seen this in your job. I was beginning to wonder if this was just normal for everyone grieving in this situation.

Yes, I do agree with your thoughts around this @Ahorsecalledseptember and @Notrightbutok.

Personally I think the way some of the 'Alfie's Army' and 'Charlie's Army' crowds carried on towards NHS staff was reprehensible, both online and at the hospitals. They upset other parents and their sick children, as well as medical staff.

I don't understand the point of the Coronation Street story and its clumsy characterisation of Leanne as the 'battling parent'. I think it's offensive, bewildering, and yet massively tedious at the same time.

I actually think it's a great storyline & very well done. People do react badly & look for someone to blame, as that's much easier than facing the reality that your child might die.

I thought what the barrister said about NHS staff last night was great & his reasons for no longer continuing were very valid & got a great message across.

I think they're all doing a great job at the minute, in very difficult circumstances.

My mil always finds someone to blame in any medical situation, but whines rather than shouts, and gets her daughters to whine along with her.
People react differently under stress.
I think it is just too heavy at the moment, and social distancing makes it difficult to portray. Plus all the absentee family members, a few phone calls would help.

But they don’t, Benone, which is why the Charlie Gard case gained such a lot of publicity, because it was so very unusual. I think it must be extremely distressing to watch that if as a parent you’ve had to experience it or similar - the idea that parents who really love their child “don’t give up.” It just doesn’t work like that. Illnesses and diseases aren’t personal.

What I've found really frustrating about the Leanne storyline is that it seemed fudged at the start and therefore doesn't quite hang together. I may have got some of the detail wrong here so do correct me if so.

As far as I recall, when the hospital first said that Oliver was incurable Nick found the German clinic online and he and Leanne contacted them. Leanne came away jubilant that the clinic had said they could help, albeit very expensive. Now, I get that Leanne may have heard 'perhaps' and translated that into 'yes', and I can understand why her character might do that. But then the clinic got details of Oliver's condition from the hospital and apparently said no, not possible as a result of what they were told.

And that's the fudge bit. No one seems to have explained to Leanne why the German clinic changed its mind; why they had initially said 'yes' but then said no. Leanne seemed to assume at that point that the hospital had lied [or what?] to the German clinic. But there was no discussion, unless I missed it. And then Steve went off to Germany to try to convince them? If there had been an explanation to the parents there would have been no benefit to doing that.

Mmm, might be talking through my hat but it left a great big plot hole for me.

I think the other thing is unless I’ve missed a lot we haven’t ‘bonded’ with Oliver and Leanne / nick steve /Tracy as a family. I know that’s partly because of child labour laws meaning we see very little of them until their teens but when I think of children like Amy Barlow, Bethany platt, who ‘grew up’ on the street there is a connection there. Oliver just doesn’t have that for me. I don’t recall seeing Leanne carrying him around or chatting to him or anything like that!