Sixy Tixting and Why I'm Still Single at Fifty: Rancid Trolls and Crappy Rapping, Skateboarding Sex Pests and Boys' Night Banter - How They Revived the Badger Badges Industry Worldwide . . .

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This is, obviously, the proposed title for my thesis in support of my Diploma in Expertness . . .

riotlady yep completely agree with you. I think she had genuine feelungs for him but being away from his influence, and being around her friends and her sensible mum's helped her see the light!

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"Patrick is a lovely guy, but she doesn't find him attactive (and of course, his mother is Ghastly!), soI really expected her to let him down gently"

I think his mum is actually quite sensible. She saw all along that Charlene isn't right for him.

I think they will not last. Charlene is very demanding and Patrick is gorgeous.

Although I’m firmly on team Patrick,since my DH said that he moves his head a lot, I can’t not see it! Anyone else notice? It’s like his head is on a rollerball.

Genuinely thought Tracey was going to do a Nadia from last series. I don't think she was playing Dean throughout. I think he flattered he like mad about how they had the best six life of all the couple's, so she was clearly the sixiest of the lot, and I bet there was a lot of off-camera bitching about the others, and all that can be very bonding. Oxytocin can totally blind you (been there!). Time out of the oxytocin haze with sensible friends and family can do you a lot of good.

I was so relieved that Tracey did the right thing. Deano thought he had turned everything round to make everyone believe he was a changed man. Of course we could all see the truth and apparently so could Tracey. I think there are signs there that she did actually play him for a fool. The comment about spite was revealing. Tracey never stopped bringing up what had gone before and had made Deano tell her friends and family. There was also pressure on Tracey from the rest of the group to wake up and see Deano for the person he is.

I don’t believe any of the couples left will make it.

Nor do I Sertchgi - though I would love to see Charlie and Patrick in particular make a go of it, I think the cracks ar too deep in all of the relationships.

Pity about Sarah and Telv - I thought they had a good chance, but Sarah is too controlling of Telv's time. Know she's been hurt an let down, but he needs some time with his mates/ at the gym/ more than two feet way from her etc

@Benjispruce2

Although I’m firmly on team Patrick,since my DH said that he moves his head a lot, I can’t not see it! Anyone else notice? It’s like his head is on a rollerball.

Not just his head , Benji . His whole body moves and shifts around like some contortionist . It’s obviously nerves . He’s very unsure of himself and of course his mother doesn’t help . He’s very in touch with his emotions , which is absolutely fine .

I’m not sure that Charlene is the right choice for him - he may have swapped his mother for a younger version .

Patrick and Alycia would've made a good couple

@LarkDescending - Yes. Unfortunately, it’s when the news is on about “The Rule of Six”

I think Tracey watched the wedding video and suddenly saw how charming and manipulative he really was and that he could lie with no guilt at all. Saying he had come in and not realised the import and not taken it seriously was a good excuse for his behaviour, coupled with an abject apology she could have believed it. BUT the video and his vows?? The scales fell, she tred to carry on but time with her family just confirmed her worst feats she'd fallen for another cockwomble

TF didn't seem to realise it wasn't about Tracey being unable to forgive the past indiscretions, it was the fact that she couldnt trust him going forward.

Even after everything he's done I was surprised that he said, leading up to the wedding, that he had no regrets about what he'd done, and for that alone he deserved her rejection.

He genuinely thought she was that besotted that she would stay, it was a perfect ending, and I hope that what she said is true, and that their relationship has made her realise her own value.

@GlummyMcGlummerson

Patrick and Alycia would've made a good couple

I think Patrick should have been matched with Sarah, and Telv with Charlene

I have a different cynical view of our Trace: I don't think she's been planning to leave him all along but I DO think she's been playing for the cameras. I think she thought she looked all great and compassionate and forgiving by staying with TF and they'd somehow develop into a popular love story, but she's finally picked up from the other contestants and her friends and family at home that everyone thinks he's a twat and she's stupid for staying, so she's dumped him.

On reflection I agree. (Doubtless you are thrilled to have my blessing . . . )

Patrick and Alycia would've made a good couple

They would - they are both romantics. Whether she could have coped with Ruby, I don't know.

TF didn't seem to realise it wasn't about Tracey being unable to forgive the past indiscretions, it was the fact that she couldnt trust him going forward.

Even after everything he's done I was surprised that he said, leading up to the wedding, that he had no regrets about what he'd done, and for that alone he deserved her rejection.

He genuinely thought she was that besotted that she would stay, it was a perfect ending, and I hope that what she said is true, and that their relationship has made her realise her own value.

Perceptive - agree with all of this, too.

Hmm. With careful thought and analysis I think Tracey went in with a game plan, but actually did fall for Thumbface in a Limerence style way.

She planned to stay for the whole thing no matter what, and was genuinely angry and horrified by his actions, but as with many awful relationships, the more time she spent with him the more she hoped what he said was true.

Each time she chose to stay was based on game plan, but she really enjoyed how he made her feel.

Ultimately the time apart let her view it all objectively and she was able to come to her senses and make the decision that was the one she would have made in the first place if she hadn’t had a game plan.

So in conclusion; all’s we’ll that ends well, and it was lovely to see Thumbface have to face the consequences of his actions at last. Though I doubt it will have any long term effect.

I wonder what DIL tactic would work with MIL Ruby - what would win her over? What do you think?
Flattery.
Standing up to her.
General tolerance.
I reckon all of these strategies come with various risks and makes me wonder what part Ruby has had in the break up of any previous relationships?
As for TF, I bet he'll move on to the next short term relationship very quickly, no lessons learned. He'll have fixed an explanation in his head that Tracey is loco and spiteful. I wish she hadn't used that particular phrase 'I stayed out of spite', as that gives someone like him power to say it about her.

As in, TF wouldn't say she dumped me because I was a lying, cheating dick, she dumped me because she was spiteful, she even said so....

Tracey released a book about being a goddess didn't she round about the time of filming? Makes me think she had a game plan and the chips fell in her favour.

Is there a reunion show at the end? Is it like an interview style or is everyone together, like every single contestant?

Young Sean and Melissa wrote books too.

There’s a final dinner party and then a final reunion show on the sofas with the ixperts.

Tracey released a book about being a goddess didn't she round about the time of filming? Makes me think she had a game plan and the chips fell in her favour.

But how does being completely walked over by a sexist pig make you someone to give advice to others 😁 not sure her behaviour is a great selling point for her book.

@Eaumyword

I wonder what DIL tactic would work with MIL Ruby - what would win her over? What do you think? Flattery. Standing up to her. General tolerance. I reckon all of these strategies come with various risks and makes me wonder what part Ruby has had in the break up of any previous relationships? As for TF, I bet he'll move on to the next short term relationship very quickly, no lessons learned. He'll have fixed an explanation in his head that Tracey is loco and spiteful. I wish she hadn't used that particular phrase 'I stayed out of spite', as that gives someone like him power to say it about her.

If I had a MIL like Ruby, I would put the ball in her court. How will she get along with me? Flattery, standing up to me, or general tolerance!

Sertchgi123 wrote: If I had a MIL like Ruby, I would put the ball in her court. How will she get along with me? Flattery, standing up to me, or general tolerance!

Then your marriage would not last 5 minutes. Your DH will be torn between you and his mum as you will clash big time with her and then he will have to let you go. Because he already has the boss - his mummy, and she always comes first!

Been there, married to someone just like Patric with a similar MIL and it did not last much at all. One day he just packed and went back to his mommy, they were very happy together. Mommy's boy? Never again!

When my present DH said he had no parents alive, I put a big tick in the box. He is not half as nice as his predecessor BUT after decades we are still together!!!

Was being lighthearted @RusBun, but on a serious note I think there would be some merit in my approach.

Why put yourself into a position, where you are the one pussy footing around someone else?

I might have missed something but has there ever been any further mention of Tracy’s daughter seen the first ‘wedding’? Surely that should have been a major factor in her decision?

Damn right Fanacapan - Thumbface isn't the sort of sexist creep I'd want around my DD, and Tracey isn't giving a good example of how to deal with gaslighting twonks like him.

I'd want my DD to learn how to walk away at the first sign of tw*ttish behaviour and not even give a thought to spite or revenge, because TBH, he isn't worth the effort!