MAFS - Strictly Come DARVO - who will be gaslighting who tonight?

[SchadenfreudePersonified]

Sorry - miserable title, but I just noticed we were nearly out of thread.

@Myshitisreal

Oh goodness 🤮 😂

Do I need a badger badge??? I really like badges. I have a small backpack collection/addiction, and different badges on most of them.

I think , as Schaden intimated , the Troy badges have probably lost their currency since Troy showed such obvious interest in his MIL. Although to be fair he did hold his counsel on boys’ night .

Given that we think the whole thing is scripted do the producers choose how Dean , Troy , Nasser , and Justin are going to behave ? Do they just act naturally according to their own characters or are they told ; Dean , you’re going to be an a—-h—- along with Nasser ? Justin you’re going to dress up in women’s lingerie and Troy you have to be a foppish schoolboy with a maniacal laugh ?

@Frazzled2207

does anyone know how much more there is of this? My husband can't take much more of the daily updates. It's taken over my life a bit too much now.

I think tonight’s episode is no. 24 and there are 32 episodes . So some time to go .

arrrgh

I’ve watched to the end. A lot of the later ones are so dull I fast forwarded them and just caught up on the “previously on MAFS’ bits of the next show but the final 2 episodes are crackers.

I’m now torn between starting Series 6 of this or series 2 of Harlots on iPlayer.

May I pop my head in? I've been lurking for a couple of series, think I've been too traumatized to post.

I've been a fan of MAFS Australia for a while. It's like a enraging pantomime. Where the fuck do they get these men from? Anthony and Andrew last season triggered me immensely. I had a visceral reaction of revulsion and anger towards them. I don't get why the experts are so clueless when it comes to recognising controlling and gaslighting behaviour. That John especially, I think he may have been told he was a good listener once which prompted him to read a few BuzzFeed articles and print out his Diploma in Experting. Although I'm being light hearted I'm definitely concerned by the apparent condoning of toxic masculinity which seems so endemic in this franchise.

The second Boy's Night was no exception. As an aside, I hate the infantalising nature of naming these evenings after kids. I think the males hear Boys' Night and immediately revert to being 12 and start farting in people's faces and scrawling rude words on the loo walls with a Sharpie. But a nasty, scary version where women are considered to be second class citizens and talked about accordingly.

Thumbface is a total motherfucking bastard. Nasser is a narcissistic sociopath. Justin has the emotional capabilities of a toaster and just seems to be dead inside. Maybe his obvious delight in spotting the male mannequin was actually him greeting his cousin from Brissy who moved down for a modelling job. Troy, meh, he doesn't come across as quite as cunty as the others but I think he could be overbearing to the point of obliterating his partner's personality. Plus, I suspect he likes to be a kinky dog on a lead being disciplined for his transgressions in the bedroom. I just get a kinky vibe from him. Having said all that, his blatant lecherous behaviour towards Hillary Clinton was stomach churning. How she stayed in her seat escapes me. I bet Troy had a boner under the table from imagining Hillary and Ashley telling him off for being a naughty doggy.

Wentworth Miller (from Prison Break) and Nadia Sawahla are my favourite couple. I do think he has significant mummy issues though. Does anyone remember in one of the first episodes he talked about reuniting with his mother again after his father's death. It sounded like there had been a considerable estrangement between mother and son.
I think he's still grieving and is pretty vulnerable. I think Nadia could do a lot worse though tbh. He's a decent chap and in this company that makes him the Dalai Lama. I tell you if I had been on that show and had been matched with Thumbface instead of Wentworth Miller I'd be devo, as the Aussies say.

Anyway I better stop this stream of consciousness as my inconsiderate DS is requesting a bacon sandwich.

Oh, and I couldn't wait for the next episodes so I've watched the next few online. You will not be disappointed.

Ps, Ashley's hair extensions annoy the bejesus out of me . Why are they so obvious? Surely if you can see the joins it defeats the purpose. And Melissa seems to think she's Rapunzel.

Yes think Sarah herself needs counselling or she will push lovely Telv over the edge it’s obviously all the trauma of past relationships but also think maybe she’s been a bit spoiled by her mafia brothers don’t want Telv to wake up with a -badgers- horses head in his bed!

Failed strike through lol

I see a fat-necked ugly bloke trying desperately to cling onto his youth and establish a career as a rapper before he loses all of his hair and can't hold his gut in any longer

Totally agree with this comment ! As for the skateboarding he really thinks he is 16 and so cool , deluded idiot

@Thecobwebsarewinning

I’ve watched to the end. A lot of the later ones are so dull I fast forwarded them and just caught up on the “previously on MAFS’ bits of the next show but the final 2 episodes are crackers.

I’m now torn between starting Series 6 of this or series 2 of Harlots on iPlayer.

Do both. I bet Harlots takes a back seat until you’ve watched Series 6 and 7!

@Frazzled2207

arrrgh

If he really loves you, he will grant you this tiny, tiny desire Frazzle

Hours of brain-destroying "reality" TV isn't much to grant your soul mate, is it?

Try getting him into it Frazzled. It's good for couples to try new things (channeling my inner Trish.)
Mr Eau and I watch every night and are very excited when 7.30 comes round. We don't get out much however.
Good observations, Hoof, although your comments about Troy being a closet perve simply serve to inflame my crush on him, so...
All you do if he's bit kinky is tell him he's a naughty boy and make him clean the bathrooms. Is that how it works?

Given that we think the whole thing is scripted do the producers choose how Dean , Troy , Nasser , and Justin are going to behave ? Do they just act naturally according to their own characters or are they told ; Dean , you’re going to be an a—-h—- along with Nasser ? Justin you’re going to dress up in women’s lingerie and Troy you have to be a foppish schoolboy with a maniacal laugh ?

I've wondered that - but I think they pick people they know are going to be Arschlocken and tell them to :just "be themselves". Possibly give them a storyline ("You'll be given a woman who will forgive you anything, but you may find you want to follow your dreams with another bloke's slut of a "wife" - follow your heart - chase that dream if that's what you feel you need to make you happy and fulfilled etc - However you react will be the right way because you are being true to yourself" etc)

I think it will be broadly scripted, but very much make it up as you go along.

That John especially, I think he may have been told he was a good listener once which prompted him to read a few BuzzFeed articles and print out his Diploma in Experting.

Welcome Hoof - you will fit right in here.

Although I'm being light hearted I'm definitely concerned by the apparent condoning of toxic masculinity which seems so endemic in this franchise.

We've often thought that they are missing great opportunities to educate women in the the Ways of the Abusive Male - early signs of gaslighting , c*cklodgering, narcissism etc.

Wentworth Miller (from Prison Break) and Nadia Sawahla are my favourite couple.

This must be a later (or earlier) series - I don't recognise these names - sorry.

Anyway I better stop this stream of consciousness as my inconsiderate DS is requesting a bacon sandwich

I'm sure I speak for All of Mumsnet when I say "LTB!"

Oh - sorry - it's your DS, not DH

Have him adopted - just for a hour.

All you do if he's bit kinky is tell him he's a naughty boy and make him clean the bathrooms. Is that how it works?

In that case I would like to "bagsie" a night of uninhibited perversion with Troy as well, please.

Does he do kitchen cupboards?

Wentworth Miller (from Prison Break) and Nadia Sawahla are my favourite couple.*

You've ruined them as Charlene and Patrick for me now 😂

Wentworth and Nadia it is 😁

@happinessischocolate

Wentworth Miller (from Prison Break) and Nadia Sawahla are my favourite couple.*

You've ruined them as Charlene and Patrick for me now 😂

Wentworth and Nadia it is 😁

Oh - sorry!

Were we making up a cast list? I thought it must have been a celebrity MAFS or something.

Justin has the emotional capabilities of a toaster and just seems to be dead inside. Maybe his obvious delight in spotting the male mannequin was actually him greeting his cousin from Brissy who moved down for a modelling job

brilliant!

How can they not have interviewed the fragrant Stephanie?! I want need to know her thoughts on Troy almost coming on to her! Unless she is still receiving some kind of therapy, then there is no excuse

@LarkDescending

Psychobabble moment: Sarah is projecting the pain and abandonment of her recent past relationship onto this one.

Agree completely with this. Telv is having to deal with reactions that have nothing to do with his actions. I was actually quite relieved that the advice given to them both was to plan the day rather than him change his actions. Although it seems like he’s the one changing, it’s actually her expectations that are being managed.

Sarah is one step away from being controlling due to past trauma, and that will ruin what they have. Telv is pretty flexible when it comes to being moulded by her, but he’s not going to put up with undeserved anger, which is a really good sign.

I’m not as comfortable with Troy’s boys’ night actions as you all are. I think he joined in a bit too much and shouldn’t have mentioned his crush on Ash’s mum to those rabid dogs.

Can’t wait to see Charlene tear them apart tonight.

And is it just me who has noticed that it’s only the women who talk about being respected all the time? It’s weird how the men don’t worry about the girls’ night descending into disrespectful banter. Makes me think Australian men are Neanderthals. (Could be over thinking it)

@Thecobwebsarewinning you have to watch series 6. Its insane, I was totally hooked. No idea why but I actually found it really emotional at the end, its pretty intense for trash tv!

I agree re Troy at the boys night. For me he seemed totally fine with it and whilst he didn't really join in that much he just seemed so ok with it. I quite liked him till then!

Thumbface is a total motherfucking bastard. Nasser is a narcissistic sociopath. Justin has the emotional capabilities of a toaster and just seems to be dead inside

I'm guessing you're not keen on these three?

Given that we think the whole thing is scripted do the producers choose how Dean , Troy , Nasser , and Justin are going to behave ? Do they just act naturally according to their own characters or are they told ; Dean , you’re going to be an a—-h—- along with Nasser ? Justin you’re going to dress up in women’s lingerie and Troy you have to be a foppish schoolboy with a maniacal laugh ?

Has anyone watched UnReal? It’s a drama about the producers behind a show that’s basically The Bachelor and how they manipulate everything- it’s fictional but the main writer/producer was actually a producer on The Bachelor so I feel like it’s a pretty good insight (if overexaggerated) into how producers on these sorts of shows make things happen without explicitly scripting it.

Thank you SchadenfreudePersonified ( notice the polite use of your full moniker - signalling recognition of some sort of hierarchy on these threads ) for suggesting what the producers do to the men in the storyline of MAFS AUSTRALIA SERIES ( that didn’t actually come out as intended - but you know what I mean )

However I think I read that Abandrew of series 4 suffered from a form of PTSD after his exposure and Spoonface became the most hated man in Australia . Does the production team have a “duty of care” to the inhabitants ( cast ) considering their future lives ? Only because there are some exceptionally fragile people on the show. Or is there a get out clause that they all have to sign ?

Do you think Dean and maybe Nasser could suffer in a similar way at the end of this ?

@SchadenfreudePersonified

All you do if he's bit kinky is tell him he's a naughty boy and make him clean the bathrooms. Is that how it works?

In that case I would like to "bagsie" a night of uninhibited perversion with Troy as well, please.

Does he do kitchen cupboards?

When you’ve finished with him would you pass him on ?