Deadwater Fell

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Has anyone watched this?

I'm finding the police questioning very sloooooow. I mean DT said his wife kicked off because he asked about her conversation with the Head at the ceilidh so why didn't the police call in the Head before releasing DT? They knew DT had lied about where he was in the house, had access to insulin etc. Would they would have released him just because Dillon's accusation fell apart?

@LordOfTheWhys perhaps it is because it puts the whole investigation into doubt, because of Steve rather than Dylan. Not that Dylan Lord, but that he was coerced, so what else have the fuckwit police fudged?

Lied. Not Lord. Grr.

What if we haven't seen all of the interaction between Kate and Stevie at the hospital yet? Could she go on to reveal that DT and Jess had sex? He maybe already knew when Jess tells all and is more angry it took her so long to tell him.

Stevie maybe feels guilty that Kate and the kids ended up dead following Kate's revelation that she was being kept drugged and didn't know what she was doing as a result.

The fire was maybe the "oh shit! She was right!" moment for him.

We saw on the beach how easily DT could control Kate. "Go on take the kids" and she did. Even though she'd just necked that big glass of wine. Perhaps it was her that injected the kids but only because he'd told her to. He'd packed the equipment needed into his bag before going to the window to watch the cyclists pass.

When the detectives asked Tom about him being a doctor and if had a PHD and where he studied, I automatically assumed that maybe he’s not a qualified medical doctor but he’s faked his qualifications. That would then tie in with him keeping insulin in his bag when it’s meant to be kept in the fridge, and them asking him if other GPs keep insulin in their doctors’ bags.

@Werking yes, that was odd questioning.

Seen it. And sober 😂😂😂

He is an arse

Jess came when I fucked her - just after they made love

When mum over - get her some fucking tea

Is the boiler that started the fire - they mentioned it cold and not working

Wouid Steve his friend be able to do the interview ? Would there not be conflict as friend ?

So they all had insulin doses ? And didn't it come up that each arm had 2 injections marks

Maybe 2 people drugged them not knowing someone else had

Steve feel bad as
Didn't listen to kate when she said after the crash she felt out of it and dt will kill her one day

Wouidnt the hospital take blood anyway after a crash ?

So Steve's ex wife is preg by younger lover -4mth preg

He prob didn't know
About Jess and ivf struggle hence why said wasn't really trying and young and immature lol

But does seem weird to say to your partners ex you are ttc /having ivf

Or to go and have a drink with them. Steve didn't like the way ex bf interacted with his kids in the pub

I hope Jess does get preg - she said a week to go. Ivf is usually a 2ww so implanted a week ago - which was maybe a day or two after fire

Tho still say UK clinics won't put back 3 unless over 40

And if a murder investigation surely the bodies wouldn't be released for funeral

At end mum looked scared he was home and said he loves her

@Blondeshavemorefun that was not making love. She was pushing him away but gave in otherwise he would have been even worse.

I thought the boiler was at the farm? Over 40 years old and likely billowing out carbon monoxide. They would not leave their own boiler in that state.

Cheeky yy you're probably right about them releasing DT because it called into question everything Steve had been involved with. It's only his word against DT's that DT was in the bedroom etc. Although DT did seem to agree when he was confronted with it.
I thought the qualifications question was just an interview technique ie take questioning off in an unusual tangent but for seemingly innocuous information and then swing back ie 'where did you study? oh, so you're a doctor? then you know about insulin'

Werking that's interesting

SentimentalKiller Yep, it’s like they lose all sense and just spew out their first thoughts. ‘My dh just has to look at me to get me pregnant’ said a friend who announced her second, a week after I’d had a failed cycle. Thanks pal! I found that pub announcement distressingly on the money grrr

Steve (aka Jon Hamm) feels guilty because she was pleading with him and warned him that DT would kill her, and he just shook her off. That's destroying him, alongside the obviously freaked out that his missus fucked the evil DT

I was shocked by this... his reaction was appalling.. or rather lack of

Very true @CheekyFucker

Makes you wonder why kate stayed with him

Or just down trodden and scared for kids

Maybe she did kill them to protect them from dt

He didn’t seem upset they were dead imo

It is very hard to leave, and the kids clearly adore their father. Perhaps she was planning to leave (with Simon's help) and Tom found out.

When someone threatens to leave, or attempts to leave, is the time when risk is highest. Tom would not want her to leave. He would prefer she died. Likewise with the kids. He would not have been able to cope as well as Steve did, seeing his children engaging with another 'dad'.

I really enjoyed this latest episode.
I think Toms mum is involved somehow, she posted the money through to Kate's parents out of guilt Kate is dead..I do not think she meant to harm Kate or the Girls, more help but something went wrong!
I think this simply because it would be a good twist and Tom is to obvious!
Plus Kate tried to ring her before the Fire and her comment in the Hospital about maybe things would have been better if Tom had does also-at the time I thought she meant because his whole family was gone- however i now think she meant it in a different way.

Who knows? I really have no clue who dunnit!

I am still having problems with the sound. Its not that anyone is muttering but how they have recorded it. to hear anyone at a reasonable level I have to have the volume up so high that when the ads come on its like an explosion. I have had this with films shown on tv. It must be some supe technique that works in cinemas but just doesn't work on tvs at home. (eg I also watched Cobra and no problems).

But just saying that I may have misunderstood but when DT was visited by his mother he started barking out these orders, some of it to do with think the duty solicitor was shit. And to do these things he needed more money because he is in debt. So I thought he was telling her to remortgage her home and / or ask the in laws for even more money. Assuming they had already lent some and not bee paid back.

So her big revolution of not only not visiting him, but also taking out all her savings to go towards the debt to the in laws was her saying I know you are guilty and I am not going to help.

I think his tears when she didn't turn up is just part of his self absorbed character and him feeling it just isn't fair that his mum wouldn't do what he wants. Not realising she only ever does anything because she is so scared.

Stumbled in - I have to watch most TV with subtitles these days or I wouldn't know wtf was going on.

Oh yes. The tear was all for his own situation. The fact he was alone and even his Mother had deserted him. It was the nearest to real emotion he has shown, and considering his wife and three babies had died, that speaks volumes. Psychopath. Narcissist. Not a good combo.

Surely there is a lot more to come on that car crash. It must be crucial, yet we've seen nothing yet about what happened after the crash, who was hurt etc. Must be some revelations in the upcoming last episode, and they must be significant.

I think there’s a lot of loose ends, big and small, that need tying up and I’m sceptical about whether it can be done in one episode.

I hope that Jess’s IVF battle is a big part of the resolution because otherwise I’ll feel miffed that they spent such a lot of screen time on that at the expense of more interesting & relevant things, like the detectives doing detective work.

My original guess was Jess was involved. Let’s see if Steve’s ex-wife and her new boyfriend, thee of the easy conception, end up in a burning house next week

I believe he was systematically drugging his wife.. causing her lack of concentration..he impatience.. her losing control at the wheel of the car.. it's all relevant...

@Clawdy I agree about the crash. This week there was a scene where Steve had the pictures of the car wreckage on his desk. It looked like it was present day as opposed to a flashback.

She was slurring her words a bit in the A and E after the crash which isn't a likely consequence of a single glass of wine.

I wondered if the IVF storyline was introduced to demonstrate to the viewer that both Jess and Steve knew their way around a needle and syringe as well as Dr D Tennant and Kate.