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Doctor Who-spoilers (Title edited by MNHQ)

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darkriver19886 · 01/01/2020 20:02

That reveal! 😳
Took me ages to figure out what was going on.

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NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 27/01/2020 20:30

Oh thanks for that @SushiGo, that's why they looked familiar then!!!

CountFosco · 27/01/2020 21:49

I have been disappointed Matt Smith onwards

Matt Smith is my favourite doctor. Watching his first series with the DDs and DD1 said 'I love that there is one story through the whole series' as the angels disappeared into the crack.

SESthebrave · 28/01/2020 10:52

Can someone explain to me the theory behind the possible link between Ruth and Chloe Webber? I remember Chloe drawing pictures because she was inhabited by a lonely alien but then can’t link it. What am I missing?

HeyAssbutt · 28/01/2020 19:37

Chris Chibnall has said that we wont be seeing Jack again this series! But do we believe him? Hmmm.....

JayAlfredPrufrock · 28/01/2020 20:07

He’s a big fat liar.

mummmy2017 · 28/01/2020 20:11

Since Dr Ruth has no idea what the screwdrivers was, seems that puts her way back in Doctor history.
Forgot too look at inside the TARDIS, as that would help date as well.

SushiGo · 28/01/2020 21:07

I've seen suggestions that Ruth is either way back (possibly between 2 and 3? Like the war doctor one that doesn't 'count') or a different timeline?

Not heard a chloe webber link!

RustyBear · 28/01/2020 21:23

@mummy2017 - Ruth's TARDIS. Much more like the first one we saw than any from the new era.

There are lots of conflicting clues about where Ruth's Doctor fits in in if it's going to be consistent with existing canon (which is a big if!)

WhenTom Baker's Doctor was brain-wrestling with the renegade Time Lord Morbius, several faces were shown which were apparently previous incarnations of the Doctor and/or Morbius (actually they were various members of the production team.) If they really were previous incarnations then Ruth could have been one of those.

But Ruth must have come after William Hartnell's Doctor, because her TARDIS is a police box, and the TARDIS wasn't a police box before it landed in London in 1963 (we know this because in the second episode, after it lands in the Stone Age, the Doctor is surprised it's still a police box)
The implication is that she was before Patrick Troughton's Doctor, because she didn't recognise the sonic screwdriver, which was introduced in the story 'Web of Fear'. But she couldn't have come between WH & PT because we saw that regeneration on-screen.

In fact the only regeneration that wasn't shown on screen was the one between Patrick Troughton and John Pertwee, which was possibly not a regular regeneration, but just a change of appearance, imposed by the Time Lords (though there was a distinct personality change too)

There is actually a body of fiction, some of it from officially licensed sources (known as Season 6b) which explores the idea that the 'Second' Doctor was actually forced to work as an investigator and roaming trouble-shooter by theTime Lords along with companion Jamie for some time before he was finally exiled to Earth as JP's Doctor. It's possible that he had more than one incarnation during this time, though it doesn't explain Ruth asking what the sonic was. However, the sonic during Patrick Troughton's time was a much simpler instrument, resembling a pen and with far fewer functions - more Swiss Army Knife than portable computer, so she might just not have realised what it was.

Of course, there is always the possibility of alternate universes/timelines - apparently Chris Chibnall has said this isn't so, but considering the amount of misdirection and terminological inexactitude that the Dr Who production team has been responsible for in the past, one could be forgiven for taking that with a pinch of salt!

Doctor Who-spoilers (Title edited by MNHQ)
SoupDragon · 29/01/2020 07:35

They slipped John Hurt into the regeneration sequence before Christopher Ecclestone, although the other doctors "recognised" him and Jodie and Ruth don't recognise each other.

RustyBear · 29/01/2020 09:03

The Paul McGann/John Hurt regeneration was shown in the short 'Night of the Doctor' which was released just before the 50th anniversary special.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 29/01/2020 16:01

I am in awe at your knowledge of Dr Who past and present. Have you watched the series multiple times? I have watched the series avidly since very young (used to hide behind the settee when the Daleks were on) BUT I don't recall half of what you're talking about.

Who was Chloe Webber - when did she feature?

Clearly I've got some major revision to do!!!!

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 29/01/2020 16:02

Apologies for the over-use of watched the series twice in sequential sentences. Oops clearly I need to do some English revision too!

mummmy2017 · 29/01/2020 16:17

Rustybear you are the boss.

RustyBear · 29/01/2020 16:20

I've watched it right from the start, when I was seven, though I did miss the odd episode when my parents very unreasonably refused to get back from our weekend shopping trips in time.

About 4 years ago, DH (who's also a fan from the very start) and I started a re-watch, which took us just over 3 years. Lots of the classic series doesn't exist anymore, as the BBC wiped a lot of tapes, but there are various recons of varying quality on YouTube, using stills or animations, as most of the audio still exists. Also the BBC are now commissioning complete new animations of some of the missing stories.
If you want to learn more about past stories, this is a good place to start
tardis.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Doctor_Who_television_stories

Chloe Webber was a young girl in a 10th Doctor story called "Fear Her", who made people disappear (don't want to say more, because spoilers, if you're going to catch up). There are rumours that she is the Timeless Child and is going to return this series, but I've no idea whether they are true..

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 29/01/2020 18:37

I have a vague recollection of the episode but not enough to really remember the story arc with any clarity. Thanks for the link @RustyBear.

Clearly it's time for a long-overdue rewatch but not sure I could spend three years doing it. The series I remember best are the John Pertwee and Tom Baker ones, even though clearly I've seen the Christoper Eccleston onwards ones much more recently.

RustyBear · 29/01/2020 18:39

Well, it really only took us three years because we watched all the special features on the DVDs as well - and DH was working away from home all week, so we only did it on weekends when we weren't doing something else. You could probably do it in half the time if you wanted to.

IsolaPribby · 02/02/2020 21:17

That was another very worthy, preachy episode, but did have a very Torchwood vibe to it.

wineoclockthanks · 02/02/2020 21:33

The preachiness is spoiling it for me a bit.

wineoclockthanks · 02/02/2020 21:39

And also wondered why no-one mentioned the lad who was attacked by the birds on the beach. Not a question as to where he was.

iklboo · 02/02/2020 21:40

Yep. Another CBBC preach prog. Not as bad as the others but it still was. Bring back The Master!

Hadleybeans · 02/02/2020 22:32

Disappointing. so bloody preachy. So much exposition. it's children's TV again. I don't want to watch anymore.

AdachiOljulo · 02/02/2020 22:52

it's the McGuffins that irritate me more than the (admittedly irritating) preaching.

slipperywhensparticus · 03/02/2020 09:11

Mcguffin?

iklboo · 03/02/2020 16:07

McGuffin

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In fiction, a MacGuffin is an object, device, or event that is necessary to the plot and the motivation of the characters, but insignificant, unimportant, or irrelevant in itself.

Samcro · 03/02/2020 16:19

no one cared about the lad on the beach. seemed odd that.
getting bored with the preaching.