GAME OF THRONES: THE FINAL EPISODE. Monday 20th May. Spoilers after 2am.

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It's here.

Eight seasons of love, hate, family, battles, history, mystery, myth and legend.

After laying waste to Kings' Landing, what next for Daenerys? Does destiny feel good when you kill thousands of innocents to reach it?

I will really miss these characters and their stories. Epic, must-watch television is rare. Will we ever see its like again?

And now our watch is ended.

If there’s no nights watch then Jon can’t get sent there - and Sam becomes a Maester anyway so can’t be Lord Tarly (who isn’t a head lord anyway, he’s sworn to Highgarden).

If there IS a night’s watch then they’re going to be wondering how come Sam is Lord Tarly.

(When Sam becomes a maester what happens to Gilly et al??)

Sansa isn’t alone, she has Arya and Brienne too (plus Bran).

Dorne did absolutely nothing of any use in the TV show. The Mormonts are extinct. The two randoms can’t have done anything of note either or we would have heard of them. They certainly did less than Bronn who is the Lord of Highgarden.

I did like Davos’ line about ‘I don’t know why I get a vote’.

I thought he said "I don't know IF I get a vote".

Well does he or doesn’t he? No one seems really to care.

Just as long as nobody was against it.
It was an odd assembly, yes. For example, why was Arya seated? Apart from delivering the line about slitting throats, she didn't belong there.

agirlhasnonameX there have been lots of theories over the years that the Children of the Forest are the true villains of the story. This fits with a number of GRRM’s other stories where there is a collective consciousness which is ‘evil’ working to get humanity to fight itself. I think the theories became stronger after season 6 when it was revealed that the CoTF created the White Walkers.

The best Youtube channel for ‘CoTF as the antagonist’ is Ideas of Ice and Fire. Quinn, who runs the channel, says that after the last episode of GOT he is going to put together a book/show theory on how the CoTF could be manoeuvring Bran into a position of power in Westeros.

In answer to your question, no - I cannot take credit for this idea. I do prefer it to the one we got though.

@OrianaBanana but Sansa is technically alone. Presumably Bran and Brienne remain in Kings Landing whilst she's at Winterfell and Ayra is off on her travels, no?

In trying to defend the ‘Great Council’, people are trying to explain the utterly nonsensical. It didn’t work, it doesn’t work and it cannot be excused.

It was a collective failure of writing over 3 seasons where Westeros ceases to exist outside of a few main characters. It was exactly the same with the Dragon and the Wolf parlay at the end of season 7 - the whole of ‘Westeros’ was represented by about half a dozen people.

Yes now she is. But not at the kingsmoot.

Thank you SweetSummerchild. I remember reading similar theories and dismissing them before King Bran happened, but literally any theory that explains this will help me, so I'll be watching them later in hope.

Bronn not fighting in the big battles seems evidence of his sense to me! I presume he wouldn't have qualified to be at the first meeting because the person who promised him Highgarden was a prisoner. Brann evidently accepted it between then and the small council.

Being cynical about the kingsmoot scene, it feels like they wanted to have Sam, Davos and Brienne there as long or fairly long-standing popular characters. Then they wanted to bring Edmure, Robyn, and Dorne back as fan service to make up for writing them out of the last couple of seasons even though they represent the largest intact houses and could have played a role in the events of season 7 and 8. Yara had to be there too given her and Theons support for Dany. So then they stuck in a couple of randoms and declared them to be the most important men and women in westeros.

They would have been better to have either:

• had the most important figure in each of the seven kingdoms vote (so just the seven votes) but they could have brought advisors with them (which would allow Sam, Brienne and Davos to be there.
• or, they should have made it a vote by all the surviving heads of noble houses and had even more randoms there (who I am sure could have been persuaded to vote with their liege lord so no worry about Bran not being elected.

Also, given how much Sam supposedly cares for Gilly and Sam he really did drop them without reference!

The rules of westeros are changing. I really don't think the will enforce maesters giving up the right to have a family. It's a sacred vow but so was the nights watch, and I think the nights watch will become a standing army, just a place for the unwanted and unemployed to go. Things evolve. Maesters may be allowed to marry and reproduce.

Yes King Bran does seem pretty permissive. Although I can see Queen Sansa having misgivings about a large army of bored rapists and murderers hanging around on her northern border.

In trying to defend the ‘Great Council’, people are trying to explain the utterly nonsensical. It didn’t work, it doesn’t work and it cannot be excused.

I agree. I'm ok with the ending in general, even Bran as king but this scene and idea didn't not work. It could of but it was poorly executed. My issues

1. Why would the unsullied care what the random lords and lady's of Westeros thought.

2. Why bring in random people at this stage. They haven't had a say in anything for 8years (probably longer) but now they are important enough to pick the next king?

3. Who were they? Sers lords what houses were the from? Random people don't serve a purpose. They just confuse things.

4. The voting made no sense it seemed like every individual got a vote. But are the votes by house or kingdom/region. Because Sansa wasn't voting just as a stark she withdrew the whole of the north a region.

And that leaves out this issue that no one else took that opportunity....

It was sloppy and it made no sense. It could of worked a lot better with minimal extra time I think as one line per character to say who they were voting for would have gone a long way. It wouldn't of been perfect a long way from but it might have made more sense.

Well the North is a separate kingdom. If the 6 kingdoms which bran rules wants a nights watch then they will need to find a sport to keep them. Sansa can come up with her own system in the North. They didn't really think that through when they sent Jon to the wall, as Sansa allowed them to set a precedent of sending prisoners her way. Although she obviapily wanted Jon, she and the rest of them will need a plan for how it works going forward.

So much just doesn't make sense!

Oh yeah. Yara sided with Dany on the promise of having the iron islands as hers and ruling as their queen. Why didn't she raise that and fight for her independence too? Makes no sense!

@itswinetime I can answer your question as to who they are. IMDB has updated the cast list for the episode.

You can tell they spent a LOOOOONG time working out who the important lords are.

I do love the name of the Ironborn lord’s actor though - almost meant to be!

Who is Lord Une?

@SweetSummerchild thank you I can see what do mean so much time went into that planning🙄🙄🙄

Ok so new question if one of them was a 'northern lord'. Surely he would be pissed after voting for bran then Sansa saying nope I'm out. And I'm taking the rest of you with me!

It would have been better one representative per region and then as many tag alongs as they want. If you can't be arsed to name the characters and assign them a house it's probably a good sign you don't need them in the scene!

Surely they should have had Jon too, as a Targaryen, and quite frankly, the queen slayer and next (strictly, first) in line to the throne... Unless GW wanted to become King.

Sansa and The North were allowed to secede because they did all the heavy lifting with the army of the dead. Which of the other houses came to fight on the scale they did? The King in the North - Jon - made terms with Dany and sacrificed everything to ally with her and get her to come and fight. They saved the world without question and sacrificed everything compared to the other kingdoms and houses who did zilch. I totally get why they've been allowed and no one else would feel they could ask to - though I can't see Yara accepting it for long.

OrianaBanana f*ck knows. I posted this on a FB group last night and that was the first comment that came up.

His name must be an anagram for something. I can come up with Dorne UL, but that makes no sense.

‘I am Lord Voldemort’ has too many letters.

Who is Lord Une?
Supposedly a Lord of the Stormlands, who's name has never been mentioned in the books, show, or history of Westeros.

I’m pondering why the night king was so intent on killing Bran now.

He was seriously determined to stop him.

There is more to this...(in my head)

FFS