Madeleine documentary

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New documentary due to be released on Netflix on Friday.

I've covered this subject quite extensively while I was studying law. I will be watching with a heavy heart, it is just one of those cases I can't let go of sadly.

Anyone else going to be watching?

If they had done something to her then it rather begs the question of WHY are they still keeping it in the limelight 12 years on and not just letting it go?

Ridiculous theory

Yes I work with people with s PHD. Not great at using common sense I find. PHD means little

He goes on and on about the room looking different, Kate's version and then the police version.....of course it's 2 different versions because people all trampled through the room searching before police made it a crime scene!! He focuses on the curtain being trapped behind the bed....yes,of course it is.... furniture got moved around before police arrived,bed was probably pushed back to search under travel cost etc

Basic stuff

He doesn’t just focus on that though. Yes it is pretty basic stuf but you would know if you entered through the front door or the back patio door. I think people have forgotten the early stages of the disappearance and it is why many people think like they do.

Well sack all those university lecturers then 🙄

I know this is Telly addicts but I have just started listening to the ‘Maddie’ podcast. It’s not related to the Netflix show.

The host is a journalist reporter from an Australian news channel.

It’s not sensationalised and he interviews various law enforcement types for their commentary. I’m finding it interesting.

www.9news.com.au/maddie

I am on the start of episode 5. There is a wealthy man - last name Kennedy? He has helped the McCanns financially.
I feel sad for the mum of the boy who has kidnapped, shown in an earlier episode and she had to be called in and shown pictures taken from films and pictures of child sex abuse to find her son. She found pictures of him . I believed they concluded he had been trafficked and murdered. This breaks my heart. I only wish she had the financial help and all the other support the McCanns have. They are both well paid, high educated people with a lot of support.
She was a poor young mum. It seems like she had no one.

Not seen one image of the crime scene, in 8 hrs!!!

itshardtoexplain that’s desperately sad can’t even begin to imagine how that would feel, utterly utterly awful.

I had to stopped watching, I couldn’t bear seeing Kate McCann’s anguish when she was making statements just after Maudie went missing. It felt voyeuristic.

Also it was really slow.

Maddie, not Maudie. Autocorrect grrrrr.

Is calpol a sedative? I thought it only helps children sleep by taking away pain and fever?

I was confused by the notion of calpol as a sedative too.

(Piriton OTOH...)

Yes calpol is just paracetamol!

And he looks away and touches his left ear?

FFS I think you need something a bit more substantive than that to accuse someone of killing their own child.

I'm not very into this supposed "body language" stuff where ear touching is considered hugely significant, either.

However, he did decline to answer the calpol/medicines question in that interview, which was a bad choice IMHO. It's a prime example of the McCanns making themselves seem shifty, apparently in the course of covering up something comparatively minor.

I've watched 7 episodes now, and my sympathy for the Mcanns is a lot higher than before. I remembered them as being quite cold when it happened, but seeing it again Kate in particular looks absolutely haunted.

I also thought the restaurant was further away than it actually is, not that it matters really.

I think the guy who did the check before Kate didn't actually see Madeleine, and she may have been gone longer than the last 'check'.

Where and how she went.. I don't know.

I read the statement of one of their friends, about booking the holiday etc. And it made me a lot more, if not sympathetic, at least more understanding. Some of them apparently had been away in groups on holiday before, at Mark Warner resorts, and had used the baby listening service. They booked this one then later found it didn't have that service, didn't realise that was because it wasn't enclosed/safe enough, and decided to do their own listening service instead. All their apartments were close together and a couple of the group had a monitor as well. It sounded like Kate was the most anxious about it, and needed to be reassured it would be fine, and I can see how peer-pressure and friendly reassurance might have overpowered her instinct not to leave the kids. I bet they wouldn't have done it if they'd been on their own.

I've been listening to that Maddie podcast too, and the guy paced out the route from the restaurant to their apartment. He said it took 60 seconds to get to the French windows and 2 minutes to get to the front door. I can see why that might have felt very close.

I went away with DH, 2 year old DC and PILs. PILs booked the hotel as a treat for us when we weren't very well-off, and it was half-board so evening meals were included - high tea for kids then adults only dinner later on. There was a listening service that PIL thought we could use. I refused and ended up eating a sandwich on the balcony every night once DC was asleep, while DH dined with his parents. It wasn't really abduction I was scared of, it was fire - the place was a warren and the dinning room miles from our hotel room. DH and his parents made it obvious they thought I was being ungrateful and precious, and it was hard (and pretty miserable eating my butty on my own for two hours every evening!). I don't know if I would have been able to withstand pressure from a bigger group, ore-McCanns.

Starlings - that sounds like a stupid set up for a hotel anyway, what would a single parent do, leave the kids or starve every night?

There was a seating where parents could eat at high tea to be fair but we tried it the first night and DS fell asleep in his dinner, barely ate anything and was super grumpy, then slept badly. So we had to feed him at the early seating when parents couldn't eat. And you could only eat at the middle seating WITH a child! I guess it would have worked for some children, but not mine, and I preferred my sad sandwich and happy safe child to the other alternatives.

After that I insisted on booking self catering places!

Not sure if I'm being very clear - so it worked something like this:
Early session, child only high tea 4.30-6pm
Middle session, family dinner, 6-7.30pm
Late session, adults only dinner, 7.30pm onwards

And DC was too tired to eat at the family session.