Madeleine documentary

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New documentary due to be released on Netflix on Friday.

I've covered this subject quite extensively while I was studying law. I will be watching with a heavy heart, it is just one of those cases I can't let go of sadly.

Anyone else going to be watching?

Starlings,
3/4s of Praia de Luz was looking for her though, combing through every gas sation, residence, out house warehouse henhouse farmhouse doghouse so to speak, so in this instance, her body being walking distance from 5a but not found is so impossible it's just not believable.

If she'd fallen down a borehole somewhere and died instantly, would they have found her? Maybe. And I'm not saying that's what happened obviously. Just that it's not impossible.

Starlings, the area of Malaga the boy died in was known to have boreholes, albeit ones that were supposed to be covered. I am fairly certain if the parents hadn't heard him a thorough search of the area would have taken place and the borehole would have been discovered.

There are wells (not boreholes but wells with walls around them) in Praia De Luz, these were checked on the night she vanished by the search parties and later by the Met as was the building sites. Of course there is a tiny chance they missed the one well she was down but kidnapping seems the more likely scenario. A toddler would toddle towards light so regardless of whether MM knew where her parents were she would have found them if she went looking for them. The Tapas bar was the nearest source of light and sound.

Were the kids’ club staff investigated? Is it possible that someone who knew the McCann party’s routine and who had access to the children, who could groom/build trust and potentially slip them a sedative, was part of a ring operating in the local area and saw MM as an opportunity?

That post is just gibberish, conspiracy and slurs. Have you watched the series? The dogs' reactions to scents aren't conclusive evidence on their own.

What I found odd was that no trace of Madeleine's dna could be collected from the apartment, she apparently shared a toothbrush with the twins and cuddle cat had been washed. Gerry had to fly back home to collect the pillowcase from her bed.

In case people are unaware - Amaral's theory is that MM woke up and went looking for her parents, climbed up on the sofa to look out of the window then slipped and fell banging the wall and landing on the tiled floor. This is his explanation for the blood alerts in the apartment. Then, one, or both of the parents found MM, tried to revive her, but couldn't and thus began the cover-up.

This theory has never been proved or disproved.

huntinghighandlow - to be fair, the police needed a control sample of MM's DNA which was uncontaminated and that is why GM went back to their home so that he could find something which would likely be able to produce that.

that earlier post isn't gibberish. They did tell the family the shutters had been jemmied open Gerry's sister was on the news saying so. It was only after they were examined did they backtrack. They did try and explain the scent in the boot as coming from dirty nappies and the blood from rotten meat. (In the police files) I remember the blog posts in the early days and Gerry did mention taking a fridge to a dump then deleted it shortly after.

The Priest who gave them keys to the local church has said "I was deceived"

You're getting your clergymen confused for a start.

Also, Her pink blankie clearly seen on the bed in crime scene footage then went missing. (statistically infants who die by a parents hand are very often covered as tho sleeping, which shows respect, care & remorse).

What makes you think it went missing? And what's that nonsense in brackets if not a clear insinuation?

I remember the interview on tv with the relative who’d been told by the family that the shutters had been jemmied open. Yet in KMs book she says the shutters could easily be opened from the outside. There was no evidence that they’d been forced and no fingerprints other than Kate’s on them.

It’s true that conspiracy theories and slurs have emerged too - but leaving those aside, there are numerous inconsistencies over pretty major aspects of the case anyway.

Kate herself mentions the blanket on Oprah. She said she hoped the abductor had taken it to cover Madeleine. However the blanket was on the bed when the police arrived so not sure what she meant

Going through the statements is just one inconsistency after another, the police files have so much in that the papers won't (can't?) report

The last episode has left me with nightmares. It’s absolutely terrifying what people are capable of.

Me too Pengrin
I've just watched it.
A man climbed into a child's bed while her parents were asleep in the room next door?
I'm going to have a look in at all of my kids now before I go to sleep.
When the policeman said we should think about all the kids who are not being tucked in by their mums and dads tonight, that was hard to hear and think about. He seems like a lovely man doing a horrendous job. Thank goodness for people like him.

Not seen the Documentary as I've not got Netflix. To be honest it doesn't seem like it told us anything new.
Where is precious little lamb.
Well. she's not a little lamb now, is she. She's almost a young women.
I pray that her parents get some answers one way or another.
Poor Kate looks torn apart.
You can see the pain in her eyes and etched on her face.

Child abuse most typically happens within families. Something needs to be done, criminals are making large amounts of money out of it. I was struck by the 24 hours in police custody where the officer said child abusers would always lie.

I cannot fathom how anyone can find a child sexually attractive but too many do. They have said that the Internet has made it easier for them to share this. Money needs to be spent on some sort of support network that aims to stamp out their acting on their desires, maybe along the lines of alcoholics anonymous where they can talk to someone when they are being tempted.

By Priest who said he was decieved do you mean the local one CSIblonde?

Their own priest who went out to them is my priest. He baptised Madeleine and in pretty sure he married them too. I know he gave statements at the time but he has never said anything bad about them as far as I'm aware.
They were pretty close.

I used to be absolutely firmly set that the parents were involved. Now honestly I think a lot of their stranger behaviour could be attributed to saving the professional necks.

Even if she had been found it would have been on the news. A group of doctors and professionals child goes missing while they are left alone so the parents could drink and eat would not have gone down well. Although I can't help think had this been me as a single parent I would have been persecuted.

I believe the police in Portugal and UK know what happened but cannot prove it.

I'm on episode 5 and I feel really uncomfortable watching. I just cannot decide what I think happened. I think Kate is innocent. Not sure about Gerry after reading about him and David Payne. If someone spoke about my child like that even as a joke I'd be near then again. And the dogs, and the blood etc, the whole thing makes me feel uneasy. Either way, it's an absolute tragedy for poor Madeleine, and I can't even think of how painful it would be to have a missing child, if the parents are fully innocent then the pain they have gone through must be unbearable.

I'd never be near them again!!

Fucking hell. The last two episodes are the worst to watch. It makes you think well who isn’t a child sex offender?

The numbers missing and exploited children quoted in this series are terrifying and heartbreaking.

@bobstersmum What did you read about David Payne and Gerry?

Majorcomet those are my thoughts too. I don’t think the parents are involved (though of course none of us know)
However I do think from the outset that there wasn’t just a desperate agenda of ‘find our child at whatever cost’. I think there was a desperate a agenda of ‘find our child while also saving our professional reputations and not taking any of us down the route of neglect.’ I believe it’s this more than the initial act of leaving the children which has influenced public opinion so greatly.