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The Umbrella Academy - Spoilers Allowed *title edited by MNHQ at OP's request*

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BartonHollow · 16/02/2019 22:41

Watched the first four of this so far. Very quirky and Wes Andersonish but the music is brilliantly done, and it's very original even within the superhero genre

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BartonHollow · 23/02/2019 20:38

Ok so it's very wibbly wobbly timey wimey as I've understood so

In timeline A when Five runs away, and the timeline he returns to Kennedy didn't die

In Timeline B, Five is in his 50s in the 1960s
He is assigned the mission of assassinating Kennedy by the time people and doesn't do it, on the radio he hears that someone has killed Kennedy, but he knows it wasn't him, so he knows that they are going to come and kill him, so he decides at that point to jump back and try and stop the apocalypse

All those people in the donut shop are there to eliminate him specifically because he refused to assassinate Kennedy. Hazel and Cha Cha are assigned to stop him preventing the apocalypse

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Kitsandkids · 26/02/2019 00:21

Watched all of them over the last few days and loved them. But, I have questions.

Who is Pogo? Where did he come from? How did Hargreeves get a talking ape? And was he always an ape, or a human that had the same type of serum as they gave to Luther?

How did Ben die?

Why on Earth, once he realised her emotions caused her powers, did Hargreeves do everything possible to keep Vanya miserable? I can actually totally understand him medicating her to keep her and everyone else safe but he could have let her play with the others and be in the photos etc. Then maybe she wouldn’t have felt such rage later on.

When did Luther and Alison stop being teenagers in love? What made her leave and get married when she was in love with Luther?

If Hargreeves was so terrified of Vanya’s powers why was she ever allowed to leave home and live alone? How could he know that she would keep taking the medication? She might have stopped and worked out her powers on her own.

What made the babies be born in the first place and what happened to the ones Hargreeves couldn’t buy?

If they time travelled back to the time they were children, would there be two sets of them?

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BartonHollow · 26/02/2019 00:57

Ok working through

Hargreaves made Pogo. He is some kind of alien so he took a real chimp and modified it

Ben's death is still a mystery

Unresolved in the comics

Allison And Luther

When they reached adulthood they all started quitting and the circumstances of Ben's death which was after they were 13 (still alive when 5 vanished) was probably the catalyst for this

As well as for Hargreaves faced with insubordinate adults instead of biddable children, particularly Klaus and Diego has to admit defeat

Alison then spread a rumour she was a star and became one but Luther stayed true to the "mission" until he was alone, disfigured, Hargreaves couldn't bear to look at him and fucked him off to the moon on a fools errand

Vanya

It wasn't just her meds, the meds were suppressing her emotions because her emotions can do things like bend lampposts - on top it was that he made 4 year old Alison Rumour her so she inherently believed she was powerless and didn't look to discover one. Hargreaves guilt, though she thought he hated her manifests in the fact he gave her not any of the others his wife's violin.

That Vanya was dangerous but Ben could also kill is Confused but he perhaps showed more control due to his reluctance to use his power

They aren't travelling to their own timeline Wink

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RedForShort · 26/02/2019 08:42

What she said. Way more I I knew - I bow to BartonHollow's knowledge!!

Only thing I can add is Ben died as an older teenager and bears on physical injury of the cause of his death. (We know because Klaus seems them as they were when they died.)

beeyourself · 26/02/2019 10:13

Just catching up with this after finishing the last one yesterday.

I think the comic book says that Luther didn't take serum but had his head grafted onto a gorilla body after if was badly damaged - is that right?

Reading another thread it said that Luther abs number 5 were twins, but I don't remember that bit - anyone else?

I took the quiz and am Diego

iklboo · 26/02/2019 16:23

I think the comic book says that Luther didn't take serum but had his head grafted onto a gorilla body after if was badly damaged - is that right?

A Martian gorilla at that.

bakingdemon · 26/02/2019 22:43

Finally finished and I did end up gripped - but also found it incredibly derivative of X Men (the films, I haven't read the comics). Weird school full of odd children who can do unusual things? Adults emotionally stunted by their powers keeping them isolated from other people? Woman who only discovers the true extent of her telekinetic powers in adulthood losing control and nearly causing armageddon? Literally the plot of X Men Apocalypse.

iklboo · 26/02/2019 23:19

The comics pre-date X-Men Apocalypse by at least 7 years though.

StormTreader · 27/02/2019 14:35

Dark Phoenix was an X-Men comic storyline before it was a film though, which one came first? I feel like X-Men was probably first?

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BartonHollow · 27/02/2019 14:41

I think "the shades of X Men" are deliberate

But it's more of an inversion

Like what if X Men was real but instead of become traditional superheroes the pressure of their status turned them into massively dysfunctional adults with mental health issues

Which is a ton more realistic to be fair

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PseudoBadger · 27/02/2019 17:01

Just did the character quiz. Vanya Angry

RedForShort · 27/02/2019 17:13

Did quiz and got Luther. Which is odd as I read this post:

" got Luther too black hmm What caused it d'ya think? weapn? glazed donut? coffee shop? sympathetic?"

And I chose absolutely none of those!! Instead went for companion, cream donut, rooftop and logic.

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 27/02/2019 17:33

I can't remember what I picked now Red, I suspect that all most Buzzfeed quizzes simply give a random answer no matter what option you pick.

RageAgainstTheVendingMachine · 27/02/2019 18:44

That was me red i did not want to be Luther and did the quiz again changing a couple of answers and got Five. Just done it again with original answers and got Allison twice, changed Hazel to Eudora and got Diego! But original answers plus Cha Cha brings me back to Luther again - cannot say 100% whether I picked Hazel or Cha Cha the first time (prefer Hazel but Cha Cha gets the job done.)
Maybe it is random - put all new answers in and Cha Cha - got Allison.

iklboo · 27/02/2019 21:29

On February 27, 2019, the series was renewed for a second season, with filming set to begin in late 2019.

Yay!

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 27/02/2019 21:50

As there is a bit of movement around timelines going on, do you think there's any chance Eudora Patch will be back? I liked her.

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BartonHollow · 27/02/2019 21:53

Yay!!

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RageAgainstTheVendingMachine · 28/02/2019 15:18

triple yay!

Samcro · 01/03/2019 21:42

Oh my word i enjoyed it, so MCR

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BartonHollow · 02/03/2019 22:35

Buzzfeeds got another Quiz going

Who is your UA soulmate?

I got Ben - LOL

www.buzzfeed.com/noradominick/which-umbrella-academy-character-is-your-soulmate

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BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 02/03/2019 22:42

You did better than me Barton, I got Vanya. Not my idea of a fun night out in any of her moods.

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 02/03/2019 22:43

Although, I suppose Vanya does have the advantage over Ben of being alive.

RageAgainstTheVendingMachine · 03/03/2019 01:56

Yas queen! I got Klaus.

NeutralJanet · 04/03/2019 20:51

Am I allowed to shag my soulmate

You might be one penis short of his type...

RageAgainstTheVendingMachine · 04/03/2019 23:42

Damn, I thought Klaus was pansexual. Oh well.
Back to salivating over Andrew Scott's priest then.