Luther

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Oh my good god. Just coming to the end of the first new episode. Thrilling.

Idris is also not bad to look at!

I didn’t think he was taking her make up off. I thought he was prepping her for nasty eye surgery. Watched too much Scandi noir.
I can’t understand the attraction between Alice and Luther. She’s a bucket of trouble, killing George’s poor son.

I'm sure that same house was used in a silent witness episode too

@xsquared noooo, she looked like a doctor and you can always trust a doctor.

Fuzzypixel, thanks very much. Stunning but I'd feel compelled to ruin it with curtains. Amazing building.

I think it’s Swain’s Lane and I think that my psychotherapist lived in one of those three houses when I was seeing him in the late 90s. It fits with the timescale in the Guardian magazine and the article that pops up if you google Swains Lane Grand Designs. That article also says the house was used in a Silent Witness. Feeling slightly freaked out.

Oh but I think she learned after Jeremy.

But apparently all Jezza wants is someone to fall in love with him.

longwayoff, yes, if you were a psychopathic heart surgeon/psychiatrist couple you’d probably want some curtains!

The house was also used (I’m pretty sure) in the film “Exhibition” a few years back.

This episode was the first time it was shown that Luther and Alice had shagged, wasn't it?
Their relationship had also been intense but never confirmed as sexual

I think having their twisted relationship consummated has taken away the spark somehow.

Shagging was shown in ep 2.

Why did Benny sacrifice himself? Surely he'd have been more use as another pair of hands when Luther showed up. His generic description isn't going to help them catch the hitman. What a waste.

Yes, we're all feeling a bit green eyed about Alice. Hands off him psycho, Luther is ours.

Penny was pretty scrappy, I’d never have made it out of there alive. It’s clear the wife is enjoying it too “within the parameters of the agreement”.

Surely it’s Jeremy with the brain tumour, based on her conversations with him?

Way too much Alice, sub-story taking over. Still not happy that their relationship became sexual. Too obvious and just doesn’t fit with their relationship.

Currently arguing with DH re what series Alice should have left in. DH says series, I say 2.

I want to see more of Halliday crime fighting the actual crime they’re supposed to be investigating!

Ah man poor benny. I need Alice to be a little more of herself. Hiding out just don't seem her thing. Next one looks good.

Who shot the witness protection guy and the copper? Have never watched before but am enjoying it in a slightly puzzled way so may need to watch the rest of the series.

The pathologist lady was Insp. Gina Gold in The Bill. I knew her as soon as she spoke.

Not sure whether the hitman has appeared in other episodes. All I know that George got someone else to do the job for him.

I don't take to the George storylines - I don't like gangland stuff and had been hoping it didn't take hold. Much preferred the earlier series, and the crime/police/detection aspects (inc how far can a cop go)

What happened to Mary btw?

I think the brain tumour is in the head of the she-Lake. My theory - they've been at the pointy perversions together for years (on patients? wonder what the 'suicide' rate for her psych patients was), and she's been the strong one, keeping it under the radar by enforcing agreements/boundaries.

She is worried that as her cognitive functions change, she will not be able to control him, and that if she becomes incapacitated he will be out of control unless he learns to self-impose limits (which hitherto she has externally imposed). She is already more tired and intervening less, but still teaching and reminding him of the agreements (boundaries) and why they work.

He looks strong/active, but is really very dependent on her. And can't bear the thought of being without her (needs her to control him). So wondering if fridge-woman (taken without she-Lake's prior knowledge/consent) was pretty much what it said on the tin. Convinced no other woman could love him spontaneously (fair point, given his murderous history) or care for him as she-Lake does, he wanted to force one to, via kidnap/brainwashing/Stockholm syndrome.

He and Mary broke up in series 3 after Alice saved her life. To be honest, I don't miss her. Alice was right about her, she is not interesting enough for Luther. She is too safe.

Auntie but if it was the wife with the tumor, why would she worry about her 'liberty' wich she keeps mentioning to him as a price to pay? If she knew she had the tumour she wouldn't worry about prison! Unless she doesn;t know but he does...
Or iot's him with the tumor and that's why she puts emphasis on HER career, liberty etc if he oversteps the mark.
I think it was poor bit of plot re him trying to force a female he's not even attracted to, to fall in love with him, what's the value in that. He knows wife loves him. Just power I suppose, as he's starting to slip into loss of control?

Yes! I now alise the house was in Silent witness - I thought I've seen this set up before, it was disconcerting!
The autopsy woman was in Eastenders before she was in the Bill, I think.

Does anyone else remember the stunning looking Richard Roundtree who played Shaft in the original 1971 version and TV series, not Samuel L Jackson in 2001/2 version? (That makes me feel as old as Methuselah)

For ages I have been trying to think who Idris Elba reminds me of, and it suddenly came to me that it was Richard Roundtree, who, coincidentally had a panther walk to rival Sean Connery's James Bond prowl.

I’m sure Jeremy and HN alluded to an attsck they did together - at the beginning of the episode, they were briefly discussing “little miss Birkenstock”? I missed what was being said though.

I understand why, for some, it may feel like too much Alice.

But I bloody love her