Emily has been kicked out of Big Brother for using a racist word

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Apparently she called Charley the N word in a 'joking manner' whilst they were dancing and was chucked out at 3 in the morning.

Stupid, silly naive girl

Flossalump, that is exactly the point I was trying to make further down, you have just summed it up rather eloquently in ONE nice short sentence!

Floss, I totally disagree with that. This is not about double standards. Why on earth would you want it to be ok for white people to use that word?

backtobasics,you say it wouldn't bother you if a black person called you racist names.i think the issue is the history of this word.it's not like other words.although i think all racism is wrong,this word is in a league of it's own for being offensive.

ConnieDescending, I think (unless I misinterpreted) that Floss meant that NOBODY should use the term?

I know the word has alot of history, i am not sure what the history is though?

And floss i agree, it should all or nothing. Preferably nothing.

Did anyone else notice too that after Charlie had had an argument with Chanel that she imatated her accent while being nasty?
Could the birmingham public or wherever she is from not get offended?

I think that was the point my dp was making when he asked if anybody new the history of the Barbary Coast Pirates. They took thousand of white people into slavery. This happened before america took black people into slavery. Its not right for anyone to be treated this way, no matter what culture you are from. Not many of us know about white slavery so we dont talk about it, it is forgotten. The point i am trying to make is that because of this horrible word that is in constant use by all cultures in an offence way, we can not move forward from its history. We should be teaching the new genaration that it is not acceptable to use this word in any form.

Obviously this is not in the same league as what Emily did. I am not saying that as this is unforgivable

birmingham she is from Wakefield, Yorks not a Brummie
Charley thinks she is Queen of Bloody Sheba

Chanelle no one cares about you, no one her likes you???
Cow face

oh yes of course Piffle I remember her saying now

LOL

i read in the paper today that the other students at her college knew she was a racist.she apparently called a black student there the same word and a asain boy a p*

I thought Chanel was from Stoke.

question?
If it is so outrageous and so offensive then WHY did channel 4 feel the need to releases a word for word transcript AND show it on T.V???

I think the girl is stupid for saying it as she must have known there would be a fuss, but having read it in today's paper I don't see it was said in a racist way.
A lot of my west Indian friends use that word to each other.
If the word is so bad [and I don't like it tbh] then it should not be used by anyone, not ok for some and not for others to use.

I've never seen c* as an offensive word (have *-ed it for the sensibilities of others). Mine's lovely and has brought me a great deal of pleasure over the years...

Joking aside, the n-word is a different kettle of fish altogether and I stared at the telly in shock when she said it. The way it casually slipped out, it seems that it's something she says a lot, or is perfectly comfortable in saying. I'm glad someone else has picked up on the fact that she didn't even apologise until she was told she was going to be evicted, and even then it was all 'but I'm such a lovely person' and 'this is so unfair!'...

While I cannot stand Charley, she was visibly upset by it - although she was back to her bitchy self over the business with Shabnam - she 'overheard' - erm, no she didn't, you told her. If I'd been told someone had said that, I think I'd have wanted to hear it from the source instead of relying on gossip. Charley just didn't want to appear to have been talking about Emily behind her back, imho.

As for Emily - silly, stupid immature, spoilt... and this was the girl who said in her audition interview that she hates 'ignorant people'.....

CH4 had to show it - they had so much bad publicity about sensorship during the last celebrity BB racist saga they had no choice but to air it.

CD did I say I wanted it to be used? I did not. Just that it is nonsensical to have a word which can and can't be acceptable if you are of one race or the other. It is not a word I like or use. But in the point I am trying to make it is irrelevant whether I do or not.

It amazes me that on this thread my comment which was fairly obvious gets almost as much attention as a comment wishing Emily has her head kicked in. Because, of course that is really the way forward for society isn't it?

hyperthetically - if somebody had called a gay person in the house a homophobic name would they have been evicted??

I'm thinking not...

Gingerly stepping on to the thread... I'm with Floss (I think). It is very unfortunate that this word has two such intensely contradictory usages. In one incarnation, is it probably the most obscene word in the lexicon (the Guardian, for instance, will asterisk it, while being happy to spell out 'cunt' or 'fuck'). At the same time, it is very commonly used in R&B as a term of endearment/friendship/identification. I don't think Emily should have her head metaphorically kicked in for getting confused. I think plenty of people are confused about this word, particularly white people who listed to a lot of R&B but have very little day-to-day contact with black people.

FWIW, she should have apologised properly afterwards, and not tried to prevent other people from discussing it.

Good post, policywonk.

I really don't see how it's confusing though. Surely most people can make the distinction and if they can't..........well, then maybe a bit of education might help.

One of the points that has been raised by Charley and Nikki is that the word just slipped out and that Emily said that it is a word she uses with her friends regularly. I think this is one of the main issues here as well. Not just that Emily should not have used this word but that it is clearly part of her and her friends regular vocabulary. I find that quite worrying. Even more so as she is from Bristol (where I have just moved from) and issues about racism, and particularly issues about black slavery, have been prominent in the last couple of years because of the bicentenary?? of the abolition of slavery and Bristol's connections with it. If someone from this background can be so misguided, then i despair about other people.

Kel4Mum - I know a LOT about the Barbary Coast pirates. And what you have to understand is that yes, they captured and enslaved Europeans, but the Europeans were busy at the same time, capturing and enslaving Muslims. It was, in fact, a Christian-Muslim dynamic, not a black-white dynamic. It was religious-based slavery with an elaborate capture and exchange mechanism. The Barbary pirates also enslaved Africans by the way, who were in the main treated far worse than the white slaves.
So the topic is actually not that relevant to this discussion.