Emily has been kicked out of Big Brother for using a racist word

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Apparently she called Charley the N word in a 'joking manner' whilst they were dancing and was chucked out at 3 in the morning.

Stupid, silly naive girl

I wouldn't say a lot or rap music features that kind of langage. Probably a very small minority. And quite why this is being banded about as if that makes it "alright then" I really don't know. I am no prude and I'm horrified at some of the rap lyrics that my children get to listen to.. and have even bought!

Kel4mum, that is impressive J. As I said, we have more of an asian community here, mine do a lot of muslim/hindu multicultural work ? my daughter going to senior school this year has the opportunity to learn Chinese J Maybe we don?t have the ethnic base to explore slavery/martin Luther king and it?s something I?ll add to my home curriculum now ( had to do the holocaust myself as well. That was fun

sorry,i don't think it is used frequently in conversation,kerrymum.i'm in london,like i said,my ex is black,his family and friends etc and a lot of my friend's dps are black.i've not once heard it said in conversation

KM - no problem!

Shiny, thanks.

'that was fun' was, of course being ironic. never easy to explain to ones children how disgusting and hurtful people can be to each other.

there must be

errm, no

Kerry's mum, I don't have a problem discussing it, it is the N word itself, that just makes me sick to the stomach, it genuinely offends me. I came on this thread yesterday when there was just 5 or so posts and each one was displaying the word as bright as day. This was shocking to me! I am black and I assure you that very few people around me would say the word. And if I hear anyone say it I pull them up on it. No matter the colour. The only reason I have got into ones and twos with you is because you keep typing the word. You may be desensitised (sp) to it but I am not.

In actual fact, i think this debate is good, it might get EVERYBODY thinking.

I understand what you are saying, that you arent calling anybody that word but just the sight of it, makes me shudder. I have done a lot of research on the slavery period, so know the horrors well.

Ok gonna say something here. Dh is black. Yesterday he came home and said did you hear that girl from bb said .....(and he actually said the word)He is not that uncomfortable saying the word as in to discuss it's use but understandably detests anyone saying it to black people. There are some other terms which upset him even more cos they were said by kids at his school and he was one of only two black kids at his school. Anyway, because I know him I would not feel uncomfortable saying the word in his company eg to discuss what was said on BB and I think I said it right at the beginning of the thread to illustrate that the word is completly different when used by white people to black people. However, there is no doubt that the horrible word offends many and for that reason I have refrained from using it. It's an easy adjustment to make for the sake of others comfort and dignity.

And, if someone uses an sheltered way of saying it, it shows a consideration, a conciousness that it's not ok... thats the difference.

I am a bit of a lurker and don't post very often but I feel quite strongly about this. The term that was used by Emily in BB was wrong and derogatory and she tried to dress it up as being a 'misunderstanding'. It not ok for anyone to use this word. My eldest DS is 13 and my DD is 11 and I make a point of discussing this type of language with them all the time. It's not ok for anybody to call them this word and I would be more that a little bit upset if they used it. I work in a local college and hear this term as well as other racist remarks being used between individuals all the time and I make a point of engaging in conversation with these kids and finding out if they know the history of these terms and why they are so offensive. More often than not the kids sometimes choose to ignore me or justify that 50 cent or some other hip hop artist uses the word so why shouldn?t they? It can be so frustrating.

Recently Master P and a couple of other influential Hip Hop artists declared war on the use of this term and have vowed to stop recording any material with lyrics which may offend. My DH thinks it?s too little too late but I think it?s an excellent start to a big problem.

See here allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=7063

I think you maybe misunderstanding me oncebitten. Dh and I don't routinely discuss the word. I was just pointing out that he mentioned it re the bb thing and he would not be offended if I were to recount the story to him and say what had been said.

Good post beetlebug

Back to the music point, there seem to be a lot of music like that. I dont personally listen to it, but my husband had this cd by Cypress Hill, and as the rythm was perfect for dancing trying to get my contractions going, I played it a lot and wriggled with it (baby overdue), and found myself singing a long with lyrics such as "... I am a real shit n...r" and thought, WOHEI, whats this all about?
Not everybody stops and thinks. I can see how young people just perceive it as a word to be used as any other word, or characterization.

Kel4mum, it is a good point, children should all learn history, and know WHY one should not use such terms. Song writers should maybe have a look at history too, and see how they are influencing the young to accept what they shouldnt. I think the music industry should maybe show more of a social and historical conscience.

hi plummymummy, sorry was responding to kerrys mum. On the contrary, my DP did exactly the same thing (he's black too) and i told him off. Then we got into a big discussion about the West Indies and how it was the worst place for slaves, even more so than the US. And how the Jamaicans had an uprising and fought back.

Sorry oncebitten Pregnancy hormones making me a bit dizzy