Three Girls (BBC 9pm)

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Looking forward to watching this tonight. Feel it might be one to watch with your teenagers..

rale

'They. They. They.'

This type of attitude is the problem. The girls involved were 'othered', not 'our' daughters. The perpetrators are not deemed representative of any sector of any community.

The thing is crimes are committed against our children within the communities we live amongst by members of those communities. Not enough people cared enough. This is why it took so long for these girls to get justice.

Divisions make people take sides or become too frightened to speak out against those aggressively taking sides. Communities need to work together to combat this.

Yes that decision regarding amber was disgusting. Yet again she was being used without her consent for someone else's agenda. Her life impacted as a result and massive distress caused to her. Sweet Jesus the girl was named as a paedohile in court without her knowledge! Bastards! She was violated again and again. I hope she has some peace in her life now. I hope she has been able to draw some sort of line under it.

Does anyone know how the girls are doing now? I tried to google to find out but couldn't find anything.
I hope they've got support.

Did anyone watch Ellen? Still on 4od if not. Also really eye opening - she is groomed but you see it much slower. It's really devastating, especially at the end where it shows how it happens on normal every day streets where everyone is going about their daily business.

Say y

Sorry, say you were 24. Were in the process of getting a first class degree in psychology. You wanted to help girls like these. What would be your next step? An LLB to become a barrister? Become a social worker even with the problems social workers face these days? Become a teacher even though.. likewise?

Who was the asian actor who played the man who brought it too prosecution? he was brilliant.

Blue, I have a psych degree. Work in safeguarding in education. Our preventative work (hopefully) prevents this, although you could probably get more frontline. I'm considering social work.

Who was the asian actor who played the man who brought it too prosecution? he was brilliant.

I don't know his name but he was in Eastenders a few years back and he was very good in that too.

Blue, I have a psych degree. Work in safeguarding in education. Our preventative work (hopefully) prevents this, although you could probably get more frontline. I'm considering social work.

Thank you so much. Me too. I guess I'm worried about the fact that social workers have such huge caseloads, with a massive amount of paperwork that they're unable to do their job properly due to the fucking government. I think if you had let something slip through the net unintentionally, that would feel worse that doing nothing at all. I just want to help girls like these, and other vulnerable children/ adolescents so badly. But it's difficult to know which way to go career wise, when the government is making it so difficult for public sector workers to do their job properly.

Am still watching it. Awful.

Who was the asian actor who played the man who brought it too prosecution? he was brilliant.
Ace Bhatti. He is fab.

Sara R has a Facebook page which is rapidly filling with glowing endorsements of her commitment to those girls 😀

How do you find her Facebook page please? I want to add to the glowing endorsements. My sister was so shocked at what had happened to her; I told her mumsnet would be on the case and she'd have an OBE by the end of the year. Lets make it happen people

Just finished watching. So sad.

Awful on so many levels and this is no doubt the tip of the iceberg in terms of what we see those girls go through and where else it is happening.

One thing that struck me having also watched a little Boy Blue this week is that the people who did the right thing come off badly (the policeman in a little boy blue, Sara, the DC) what is wrong with our country if we don't reward/believe these people who are in a position of power? (Aside from all the other issues obviously).

Blue I just just searched and her profile is the one with the Labour logo as she's now a labour councillor.

Oh my goodness. Just finished watching. I'm horrified on so many points. It was bad enough listening to the news at the time, but to learn how those children were treated is utterly despicable. And why the hell was Sara removed from child grooming initiatives? The very person you need!

On a separate note, the acting from those three girls was utterly superb. Ruby in particular. When she watched herself being interviewed, I was blown away.

Incredibly hard watching, but skilfully done. This is how TV can really start to influence society - and in the basis of this case, we really need it.

can we start a campaign to get these two superstars OBEs?

claritytobeclear yeah they were othered...by middle class liberals and wannabe dogooders who saw them as expendable white trash in the persuit of multiculturalism. Middle class left wing attitudes to the white working class is quite clear to see from Hilary Clinton's 'deplorables' comments to the reaction to Brexit where people like you talked as though giving suffrage to the poor was a mistake and hoped for the economy to tank to punish societies most vunerable and needy for daring to have differing political views. We don't have a voice because mainstream middle class centric British society does not like what we have to say when we do speak.

What idealistic, naive bollocks. They weren't members of our community though were they, which is a big part of the root problem in the first place. They don't need to learn to live peacefully with their white working class neighbours because they have their own streets, their own schools, their own doctors etc.

The Pakistani attitudes within the UK are pretty clear to see; theae girls deserved what they got because their parents didn't raise them with Muslim 'modesty' and prosecuting these men was simply a racist witchhunt. There is no negotiation to be had with a culture which refuses to accept its responsibility in these crimes and views white people like the Nazis saw the Jews.

White working class boys will continue to be the least likely social group in the UK to go to university and white working class girls will continue to be raped on an industrial scale by Pakistani street gangs. Once again if the middle class does not outright hate us, it adopts a saviour complex telling us what is wrong in communities they have never even stepped in.

But young girls are failed every single day in a number of different ways, to claim it was purely because of a fear of being called racist or a pursuit of multiculturalism is offensive TBH, these attitudes towards women are everywhere. I hate that is being used in a weapon against immigration, it's cheap.

rale

where people like you talked as though giving suffrage to the poor was a mistake

???? I grew up in a white working class family. In a northern town. My father worked in industry. We lived through the strikes in the 80s when I was growing up.

They don't need to learn to live peacefully with their white working class neighbours because they have their own streets, their own schools, their own doctors etc.

I think you'll find everyone needs to learn to live peacefully. Or there is war on the streets. Not a good environment for anyone.

lamp

I hate that is being used in a weapon against immigration, it's cheap.

Absolutely agree. And not just against immigration against whole sectors of the community who have lived here decades.

But young girls are failed every single day in a number of different ways, to claim it was purely because of a fear of being called racist or a pursuit of multiculturalism is offensive

Goodness, so now not only do people have to be careful about mentioning ethnicity/religion when discussing child abuse, but now even if they discuss this fact they are being offensive. And by the way, no-one is claiming it is "purely" anything.

I'll take being truthful over not being offensive myself.