Apple Tree Yard starts on Sunday! [MNHQ message: No spoilers please, including what happens in the book!]

[Destinysdaughter]

I really enjoyed the book so looking forward to this. It's in 4 parts with Emily Watson playing the main character and Ben Chaplin as her lover. BBC1 9pm

Good article about it here.

www.theguardian.com/film/2017/jan/14/emily-watson-apple-tree-yard-middle-aged-women-infidelity-sexuality#comments

Aww dammit, I've caved in and bought it for my kindle. (only £2.75!)

Agree timescale is confusing. Tho Yvonne says she doesn't want anything else to do with mr x /lover and part at the bridge

Daughter announced preg then looks maybe 5/6mths preg so assume few months passed

Gary is now sleeping with rosa at conference as him and Yvonne haven't had sex for ages

So again indication to timescale

Hubby /Gary said she hadn't been self for weeks

Don't get why she didn't use a condom with her affair \mr x

Yvonne seems to be locked up in court for the murder of someone. The woman yelling hubby? So is that mr x wife? Looks too young to be George wife

Not sure if George or mr x sent flowers and text ..... certainly made Yvonne go running to him

She managed to sleep with him in se11 but can't sleep with hubby

"Another thought about the woman in the court gallery. Agree she seems quite young and I did wonder about the woman EW's son talks about to his mother. Could it be her?"

Interesting point, Deux...

Because I wondered if there might be any relevance to Yvonne's son rapidly disappearing, soon after witnessing her distress/ anger over the flowers delivery? She binned the torn-up card; might he have been curious enough to piece it together, thus then knowing a 'George' sent them?

Gary admitted to Yvonne that their son confided in him (woman trouble etc.), including that he might move on...perhaps he also divulged the flowers/ 'George' incident. Add in the fact that Y leaves her job out of the blue. Ooh...suspicions ahoy re affair gone wrong?

Disclaimer: These are probably illogical ramblings; I'm dosed up to the hilt on Lemsip and can't remember timeline of the above.

I agree, Freaks. Wish I hadn't read it! I'll try to unremember it before I watch the next one.

True freaks have reported myself and put on naughty step

I just did t expect to read it. Only wanted to know when it was on and eyes just read it

Ignore my previous post: my theory is actually loopy...I've just remembered Y flushed the card pieces down loo

Is the dog like the dog who didn't bark in the Sherlock Holmes story? IE does the dog know X? And by extension does X know George. I was wondering with the whole phone thing if there was going to be an element of.blackmail somewhere? Maybe the phone x gave her is tracking her/ recording and sharing calls/texts etc?

Ah, that's good, thanks Blondes though its Sky that are the naughty ones! A very poorly thought out programme description from them.

Freaks have you got mixed up? I don't think Sky has given anything away... Bit unfair to point the finger. Blondes post on the other hand has been deleted.

Blondes mentioned that she'd read the spoilery thing on Sky, Wonder that's why I wrote that. I didn't see it myself.

I've asked for my earlier comment to be deleted, too

I reported myself tho doesn't say that.

I advise

Don't look to see what time it is on next week. Sky reveals what happened :(

It is on normal time next week. That's all you need to know :)

And don't look in planner in sky and read

Yes, my deletion is "at posters request"; yours is all "MN guidelines" and stuff, Blondes, like you've been naughty

Oh hahaha I see where my misunderstanding is - there's a poster called something sky and I thought you were telling off the poster not naughty Sky TV 😂 Sorry!! Crack on... they shouldn't have given the game away...

It is a bit funny that MN has wagged their "broken talk guidelines" finger at Blonde.

I know. Bad me 😳😳

Tho usually to get broken guidelines is if someone reports you

I reported myself and asked for it to be deleted so unless someone reputed me first or would have had the same as message withdrawn at posters request

'Glares' 😂

Just caught up in this and the thread. Read the book couple of years ago on holiday and it Nearly ruined my holiday as found it so disturbing and really made me scared of all men (briefly ) actually finding the tv series slightly less dark and think it's really well done.

Ah, Thirty I've just started reading the book and was wondering if I should slow down, so that the TV series won't be spoilt by my knowing what's happened already, or whether I shouldn't let the TV series spoil events unfolding in the book!
Which would you (or anyone else who's read it) recommend? I do quite like being "disturbed"!

Hard to tell Freak - I watched the first episode then raced to download and read the book before the second episode but it's just my personal preference to read first then watch if I'm going to do both. It's not quite as twisty-turny as other books I've read lately so if I wasn't trying to quickly finish it before the next episode I might have found it a bit harder to keep up the momentum to get through it.

Excellent. Just finished second episode. Do not trust X at all, yet think he must have done something to George? Wasn't Gary in court in that scene-thought I saw him. X never oncesaid 'report' etc, in fact seems to encourage the opposite, inc getting who ever that man was to put her off (true aS advice might have been, depressingly enough)

Excellent portrayal. First time I have understood someone not reporting ,and not because of the reasons why she wouldn't get conviction but because of all it would take to go through it. Frightening. Can't wait for next week and am in bed early these days and already paranoid my sky plus will fail ! (Missed the last 20m of episode one)

Haven't read book, so don't tell me if I'm wrong, but I also think Ben is security guard or something fairly humdrum. He's allowed her to think he's more glamorous than he is and she wants to think that. Actually she knows nothing about him - he by contrast knows everything about her. I'm speculating that he has killed or seriously mutilated the rapist and that she is in court to carry the can for it and will have realised when arrested just how little she knows about her lover. Suddenly the lack of evidence about their affair will be something to regret since she will be relying on it as her defence. He has taken care to make sure there is no evidence - telling her not to write down the address for instance. I think she got a thrill from the illicit sex, but his thrill comes from controlling her. He is no better than the rapist. My slight problem is that I have found Ben Chaplin creepy and unattractive from the start, but maybe that's just a personal thing. In that way reading the book would have been better because perhaps I would have imagined him as irresistible and found it easier to understand how she found herself in the position she did. I completely agree with comments earlier on in the thread contrasting the rape with what happened in the broom cupboard. The idea that we are primed to be on guard for stranger danger when statistically your attacker is more likely to be someone you know. I think in the end Ben Chaplin will turn out to have been even more dangerous than the rapist.

I haven't RTFT as I'd just like to know if I should read the book first before watching the tv prog on iPlayer?
Can download it to my kindle.

I would read the book first.
The tv version is beautifully realised so I am finding the constant thrill of recognition as the book is brought to life, rather than the thing you often get with adaptations where watching it is irritating because you feel like they've got things wrong. But I think the suspense and uncertainty make more sense in the book because the writer is more in control of what you know.
There are various things that people are experiencing as plot holes on the tv that make more sense in the book because the writer has had the space to explain them.

Thank you. Will download the book and watch afterwards. 😊