The wait is almost over! Sherlock Series 4!

[CaveMum]

So excited! I couldn't wait for tomorrow to start a thread

bloody hell I can't concentrate on work now.

Ah yes, that interview . I believe I remember it from the BCAS threads (I was Holmessweetholmes in those days). Thanks Cavemum!

You're more than welcome folks. Gotta brighten up Blue Monday somehow

"If Psycho sister had been locked up like Hannibal since she was about 6, how did she know who Moriarty was?."

Magic?

That seemed to be the explanation for everything else. Magical powers to escape a secure island fortress, magical powers to hypnotise and control everyone who came within three feet of her, magical powers to capture and tie up three fully-grown men and press a button that would send them plummeting to their deaths. etc etc etc

I thought the whole plane scenario was a flashback to something Eurus had experienced (caused?) as a girl. Until DP pointed out they wouldn't have had mobile phones like that when she was a little girl.

Moriarty's voice being on the other end of the ringing phone makes no sense in any version of it though!

How did John and Sherlock get to the boat they hyjacked?

I've been thinking about this for a little while.
Let's assume that Euros has the ability to talk people into doing stuff for her, like Derren Brown. She has spoken to the Governor of the prison and he is now under her control. However there are a lot more people than just him involved in getting her in and out of the prison. Most of the guards etc wouldn't have spoken to her so surely one of them would question what was happening or raise the alarm.

The three men who shot someone.....
So this case was so difficult that the police asked her to figure it out with just the details she gave to Sherlock? Why did they go all the way to some high security prison to ask her about that? Why not ask Sherlock or actually sort it themselves or even admit they didn't know and not convict anyone?

The girl on the plane was the only bit which I sort of like. Not in itself but what it represents - it's clearly physically impossible for hypoxia to affect everybody on a plane except for one child. Just cannot happen. So using the Conan-Doyle principle that when you've eliminated the impossible whatever remain, no matter how improbable, must be the truth - if the plane situation was impossible then it was clear it couldn't be real at all, however improbable that was given what we were shown.

They got to the boat by helicopter. That was shown.

How did she get them from the island to the house?

That's puzzling me too arc.

Maybe they were there all along. I don't know any more .

Ok so I'm rewatching. I understand in principal the plane thing. But it doesn't make sense the way that they are talking to the little girl.
And why was she involved with John c last week.
And why was she on the bus?
This had the potential to be amazing but just wasn't. I'm disappointed.

And the little boy at the end. Just too much.

Oh and to find out she murdered your best friend then make everything ok with a hug. I don't think so.

Both DH and I are huge Sherlock fans, and waited with baited breath for this series. But it's just free falling into Sillydom. The mawkish Mary storyline just made us cringe, and I was bizarrely hypnotised by Amanda Abingdon's hyper mobile eyebrows - less a master class in acting, and more an adept demonstration of Advanced Gurning Techniques...

We were bitterly disappointed in the last episode. It just tipped over into the frankly absurd. It was basically just Shutter Island meets Silence of the Lambs. Secret islands...clowns...Hannah-ible Lecter...girl on a plane...just silly nonsense.

And huge plot holes you could walk a marching band through.

Sherlock is heading down exactly the same dismal path that the X Files did. Brilliant when each episode was a new mystery to solve, but then slowly stangulating on its own overly convoluted plot twists and smuggity smug smug cleverness.

IMO Gatiss and Moffat fell in love with their heroine, hence the shoe horsing of her in to every conceivable scene, even when she was dead

Couldn't agree more!

I'm sure AA is a lovely person, but I've not rated her performance at all. The nepotism on that show is quite something. Cast Martin Freeman's partner (now broken up), Benedict Cumberbatch's parents (seeing them come out of retirement to do some Proper Acting was a wee bit cringey) and even the actress who played opposite BC in Hamlet as Eurus.

I really enjoyed eps 1 and 2 but the finale was so OTT, especially the 'games' which for something violent was becoming boring.

AND why she as back in hedr cell in the end if hte hug and the violin duet supposedly cured her? surely she couldn't kill after that .

Two things i did like: the girl on plane as a metaphor for someone chronically lonely/unable to connect with people due to mental issues.
And I LOVED the landing dance of Moriarty - superb! that actor is bloody fiery haha.

*why was she back in her cell

I thought the ott campness of it was very reminiscent of the original Sherlock Holmes' films. It made me feel quite nostalgic but I couldn't decide if that was deliberate on Moffat and Gatiss' part.

You can all keep listing over high/not high Sherlock. I'd have Moriarty over Sherlock every time. I'm so disappointed it looks like they won't be able to wheel him out ever again

Lusting not listing my spell check obviously trying to keep me pure in mind and deed

yes, APlace - such shame if they can't wheel him out again!

Am I alone in finding Moriarty over blown and cringe making? He's like a pantomime baddy.

I agree with you, Desolate

I thought far from "The game's afoot" it was more "Off its game".

Didn't like bloody Mary (!) pleased she's gone (though thought the way she died implausible) & hope her bloody ghost doesn't return. Wish they hadn't had the baby as it'll make W even sadder all the time. I'd rather less emotional bilge & more detecting.

As for the Prisoner of Azkaban bit I missed last bit, saw up to when they started on the puzzles & thanks to this thread won't bother seeing the end.

So Watson fell down a well & somehow levitated up, the dog was a boy, the parents turned up, Sherlock hugged his loopy escape artist, bad wig wearing sister & they played the violin together.

Did I leave anything out? Moriarty - also think he's irritatingly OTT. Fed up of him.

Love Mrs Hudson & Molly & the most gorgeous Lestrade.