Swagger Inn: Thread 88. BBC Musketeers Countdown to Friday and the Finale. Wenches avoiding spoilers only need apply!

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Come on in to the spoiler free zone. Settle down and make yourselves at home

MrsB fab story. I want to be a little old lady like that when I grow up.

Mouse you had me snorting out loud (got some funny looks from my fellow librarians

Badders hope you're back to normal

Norah Ah the logic of toddlers, and I thought we were skinny dipping too

Meanwhile I missed all the RIII coverage due to work stuff and feel pretty bad about it considering as a teen I was a fully paid up member of the RIII Society (left in high dungeon when they wouldn't give me a student discount while at uni doing Mediaeval Studies and wanted me to pay the full adult rate, impressed I was not). Shall have to try and catch it this evening and possibly bore ds1 rigid with my RIII knowledge at the same time. "No my love, the Bear and Ragged Staff is not just a pub name, it's Warwick the Kingmaker's emblem and it is important you are able to draw the family tree of Edward III's descendants. How else do you hope to understand the War of the Roses? What to you mean you are only 8 and you don't need to know? Do you want mummy to take you to castles or not?"

Ha! Issy you sound like me!

Mine are so indocrinated that it is DS' activity of choice. I suspect it has a lot to do with dressing up clothes and ice-cream, but am deluding myself that it is history. DD asked for a children's history book for Christmas,and they do like a "tell us about a King or Queen tale" so it's going well.

Where did you study Issy? I did Roman & Medieval at a northern-War-of the-Roses-city. Almost became a librarian, looked into museum work; then realised how utterly shit the pay was so sold out and went into banking

What do we do once the series ends? We move to Other Subjects and keep going. We didn't stop after S1, so over 100k of waffle post to date.

There will be all the S3 filming news and updates to perve over.

High fives MrsB re Other Subjects

Did Mediaeval Studies at Manchester back in the early 90s. Was dithering between artefact conservation, museum curatorship, archivism and librarianship for afterwards and went for librarianship. Did my MA at Sheffield (keeping it within the old northern Victoria University). Then, because I'd done chemistry as an A-level (was also thinking of keeping my options open for archaeology as a first degree, talk about bad pay!), I've always had jobs as a science (and engineering) librarian. I dream of being a humanities librarian but I doubt it will every happen...

Have recently started to claw my why towards the present day and did another masters in 18thC Studies when on mat leave with ds2. Still got to turn my dissertation into a journal paper and hoping to do a PhD for my own amusement once ds2 has started school (if funding allows).

I'd love to have studied more. Never did, doubt I ever will uness I become once of those mature pensioner students. You know, the ones who always used to ask loads of questions [grins]. I did do some voluntary research work for NTS before the DC arrived, but they put paid to that. Now it's just another interest I don't have enough time for. Am in awe of wenches who keep studying after DC like you, Anne & Mouse.

There are a suprising number of history wenches in here. Must be a type eh?

Right DC are hungry, better go feed em.

Bea is that the Rightsideinthewarsoftheroses university, or the wrong side ?

Issy, I did my library degree at Loughborough

My rose is red Cinn. So I'd say right side, though you'd say different .

Oh and yes, two other librarian trained wenches here too. Def a type.

Gosh you lot are learnwd wenches.

I am just amateur obsessive

I hated history at school, it was so dull. I did Modern Studies which is Scottish for politics, amongst other things! I'd always liked castles and stately homes and ruins though, there was none of that in school history! So everywhere we visited I did a bit of reading and attempted to find out more. And oddly for a Scot, and a socialist I find the peerage fascinating!!

It's poor mans history but for instance I watched The White Queen, went back and read up on it properly. I had visited Warwick Castle but not really appreciated the connections. And then start looking for the current Earl of Warwick to find that he sold up and went to Australia!! What? 600 odd years of your families heritage and you've just dumped it?!?!

Bad example but that is how I consume my history!! But any suggestions for readable history books always welcome.

I really like maps too and always get the proper Ordance Survey map for wherever we're going, and from that find other bits off the beaten track, forts and cairns that you'd never know about otherwise!!

The end.

Sorry, I've just come along to lower the tone & academic talk back to this

Niiiiice.

I loved history at school. But that's because I did Henry VIII then Russian and German history, which led to my A level, BA, MA.

Makes me sad to hear people not liking history.

How many librarians do we have? As wenches!? Seems it's the majority!

^That's how I like my history

I hated history at school, but I think it was the way it was put over. It never seemed to be about real people. I love it now.

Have you entered the Cauldron of Sin yet Sparks?

I like proper old history, and anthropology. (At least I do if it means what I think it does). I read quite a bit when I was training to be a bf peer supporter, trying to understand things from a baby's pov. (It's the same animal it has always been for millennia, that sort of thing)
I live reading about how we envolved the way we did and why.
I love the celts and Scottish tribes of Britain. But only in a how did they live and do things? What did they believe?
I love words and language and traditions and how they are connected and evolve.
I'm interested in religions of all sorts even though I'm not a believer (as such) in them.
Well, I do enjoy a good midnight prance in the garden every now and then.

I also love watching hot beardy fuckersz.

It's tonight apersz I think.
I look forwards to welcoming her into the CoS with open arms.

I do like history too but as an amateur and read a lot of historical biographies.
That and true crime makes up the bulk of my non fiction reading. At the moment I'm reading public enemies. Which covers the birth of the FBI and most of the American criminals of the 30s - Bonnie and Clyde, Ma Barker etc.

My access at the moment is combined social and behavioural science with a focus on psychology and criminology. No idea where to go afterwards yet though. Law and forensic psychology are options I've thought about.

We are a clever bunch, . It's interesting there are a lot of historians.

Evening wenchi

Ooh I loved history at school. We had a lush teacher who make it all really compelling. Made me very political studying about Welsh history esp the Chartists etc but I also loved Owain Glyndwr etc. Did I mention that Wales is fantastic? Did I? Actually, the key thing that really set it for me was learning about the holocaust and then devouring history books and plays and other literature about it.

NEW THREAD NEW THREAD NEW THREAD

I also LOVE the history of medicine and will happily go off piste on holiday to drag family to see an exhibit or strange device somewhere. #weirdo

I'm sure it was seeing a birthing chair and old timey forceps at the NHM helped me and my friends keep our legs crossed for longer, comtess. Have you seen the medical exhibits, i think, at the NHM?

Now, I've got home to find offspring watching 'Tom Felton meets Superfans ' on Bbc3. I'm into it already.

You all NEED to watch this.

1. Tom Felton is fab.
2. Tom Felton has got quite sexy. It's the beard.
3. there is a bit about his superfan who is a middle aged lady who follows him everywhere. Yikes And him questioning why she tracks him everywhere
4. it's got some v touching chatty interviews with his HP buddies and JKR who is very cool and interesting about idea of fans
5. people are scary
6. this programme is posing issues to me about the whole idea of fans meeting their objects of devotion. Mental Heath questions mostly actually. In a good and bad way.
7. Dan Radcliffe has just said 'fucking' and my 10 yr old is watching it. (I know, but the others were watching it and he loves HP)

Try and watch it. It raises some very interesting points relevant to us all!!

Do you mean the Wellcome ones at the Science Museum next door Mouse? If so, yes! There was also a great exhib of Egyptian operating implements at the British Museum a few years ago which I went to twice