Junk Food Kids

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So frustrating watching this - surely some of this parenting falls into the neglect category?

I understand Helena, I have heard a lot of women treated appealingly by men when they have been out and it is downright nasty. They say it spurred them on to do something about it. I would never entertain having anything to do with men like that. Sometimes it can be the straw that broke the camels back kind of thing. It seems unless you are under a size 12, your not acceptable, I don't think obese men get the same sort of rough deal.

I work in a low fluoride area. We give out free adult Colgate and a toothbrush at the 8 month development check.
Children usually have a few teeth by then, though it should be used as soon as they first appear. First Teeth types of toothpaste are ok, milder flavour etc. but not as effective. Children are encouraged to spit but not rinse, it's all to aid prevention.

I think Tallulah's mum needs family support asap, to help form routines and structure and address the existing issues. It's not enough to laugh it off and leave it, I worry for children in situations like that, how their future will be.

Women can also treat other women badly too, especially mother's. How many of us have been told that we're fat by our mum's? It's not good for a girl's self esteem. I'm a size 12 (I have large fibroids so not a great deal I can do about it at the moment). She's been telling me that I'm fat since I was a size 6

Just caught up on demand and set to record on Wednesday

I really feel for these children. Neglect does come to mind when fed junk food and get very fat :(

losing so many teeth as such a young age is dreadful / and the noise they made being pulled out :(

I do feel sorry for programmes that show children as sure they must get bullied at school or some 'friends' take the piss once shown on tv?

OOOh ladysybil, everytime mum comes round she demands I weigh myself, despite being a size 12, tells me I am fat. If I dare eat a biscuit with my tea, she tells me that I am over eating. She is not thin herself as well. I am surprised I did not develop an eating disorder because of her.

Oh, that's disgusting, Areoflot! I pulled her up on it, in front of all of my family, that helped. They came to visit just after Christmas and she pipped up (in front of them all) "Oh... look at the size of your stomach!" I told her (rather loudly) that she was one to talk. She apologised later. She's been making comments like this for the past 22 years and it's the first time she's said she was sorry.

My mother's a size 18-20 by the way.

Not seen this but sounds very depressing indeed. :(

Good on youn ladysybill . I am constantly fighting back and I have had enough. Good thing she does not live very near, and she does not drive, so see her once a month.

precious we did indeed :(

Aeroflot Sybil my mum has been critical in the past too. Not so much in the past couple of years.

Aeroflot Overweight men dont get the same vitriol Robbie Coltrane and Johnny Vegas dont get picked on by the media in the same way Dawn
French does.

Gobblon but very young children need to snack their stomachs are small. Not constantly but mid morning/ mid afternoon. Just make sure they are healthy and brush their teeth. Also milk is full of sugar so not sure what your point is.

Very young children don't need to snack.

Both my DC are off the centiles for height and have never snacked apart from ocassuonally. Milk does have some suger in it in the form of lactose. But, as long as it is drunk fairly quickly and not allowed to pool in the mouth, it does not cause decay. What does principally is multiple and/or prolonged sugar intakes in the course of the day which snacking promotes - particularly many snacks promoted for children such as raisins (which adhere to teeth). Even baby rice cakes are sweetened with apple juice

As I said, DH is a dentist and all of their DC's follow the same rules. None of them have any decay or have ever had a filling. So I'm very comfortable with what we are doing. plus, the medical view on snacking is changing. One of my pals who is a community dentist is currently working on a paper regarding the correlation in early life between routine snacking and dental decay and/or obesity in later life.

Good brushing and oral health is important but if you have multiple sugar intakes in the course of the day of things that are likely to adhere to teeth - then you will still risk decay

Sorry - DH is a dentist and his friends who are dentists follow the same kind of routine. None of their children have any decay or fillings that should have said.

The parents in the naice areas I referred to in my earlier post all brush their DC's teeth twice a day. That has not stopped children needing fillings so when DH is speaking to them about what has happened it's clearly diet related and can be linked to the snacks. That shitty Ella's fruitbars which are basically dried fruit squashed together and I could hardly scrape of my pram wheel without pouring boiling water on it after a friend's DC dropped one should be banned or have a health warning

It does seem directed at women. You generally don't get large men being shouted at by women on a night out. It is awful, no wonder women develop eating disorders or issues around their body. My dh is large, but he is very confident and happy with the way he looks, because he is a man and tall it is generally more acceptable.

Talluhs mum was just plain lazy. The dentist said that most parents know what to say when questioned about teeth cleaning and eating. They know what they should be doing but choose not to.

If the parents wanted the children to lose weightror eat better they should stop buying the unhealthy food if they are unable to set the boundaries. Pavias mum obviously ate healthly due to her ongoing weight loss. There was no need for sweets or icecream to be in the house.

precious -my posts were principally in response to soon re: the point about snacking and tooth brushing.

I'm not sure about the young children not needing to snack' I think this can vary to a certain degree between children and adults for that matter.

I have to keep my blood sugars fairly level so if I go too long between meals i either get a migraine or throw up, I think a piece of fruit or breadsticks and humous is fine. My dd is similar to me and her behaviour can deteriorate to a full blown melt down if she goes too long without food.

Imo the main culprit for tooth decay is fizzy drinks and undiluted juice esp in bottles. Obv daily sweets and chocolate won't help either and it is a given that all teeth should be brushed properly at least twice daily.

I give a drink of milk or a plain rice cake or a piece of cheese, as I said. But I look out for hunger cues. I do not routinely offer snacks.

I will be interested in 20 years time to see what the views are on the mandatory mid-morning/mid-afternoon snack. I suspect there will be a lot of people blaming their weight problems on it and/or a feeling that they need to constantly graze.

precious I thought maybe you thought I had cut across what you had said.

Aeroflot i also remember a study on eating disorders that was done many years ago. In the 80s or 90s i think.

They found that many young women who had problems with disordered eating had problematic relationships with their mothers and/or an emotionally abusive mother.