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Junk Food Kids

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BMO · 18/02/2015 22:18

So frustrating watching this - surely some of this parenting falls into the neglect category?

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HelenaDove · 19/02/2015 14:37

Aeroflotgirl Thu 19-Feb-15 11:14:02
Exactly so very. I was called fat in the street, you çoukd hear my thighs slapping together as I walked. Sometimes it takes someone else to tell you, for you to see the reality

There is NO excuse for bullying and harassment in the street. They wernt doing it as a favour Aeroflot.

I had insults in the street many years ago but i didnt lose weight because i was insulted by someone in the street who probably went home to abuse his wife/girlfriend

I did it for my health and for me. My health was my primary concern too NOT my looks.

You wernt insulted in the street for the good of your health. You were insulted because you did not meet the criteria for the male gaze!

ghostspirit · 19/02/2015 14:39

oh yeah i dont agree that its up to talulah if she wants her teeth brushed at all. hard luck its got to be done weather she wants it or not.

i would not be able to show my face in the local community i would feel to ashamed. image down the school :o

Deux · 19/02/2015 14:40

Pavia knows all too well that she's fat and her occupation with her phone was an avoidance tactic. She was huge compared to her friends of the same age.

I wondered what emotional problems she's feeding. 4 stone in a year is excessive.

ChoochiWoo · 19/02/2015 14:45

My thoughts exactly deux

Gileswithachainsaw · 19/02/2015 14:51

I think with pavia it was all handled just wrong.

The gp was not particularly warm or easy to talk to. her mum.was there cameras were there and with the rise in eating disorders and diet food industries I'd have thought the whole thing would have been dealt with more sensitively.

HelenaDove · 19/02/2015 14:55

Agree Giles Totally.

girliefriend · 19/02/2015 14:58

I watched this last night, the sound the teeth made when they were being pulled out made me feel sick Sad

Tallulahs mum was neglectful, I just hope this programme is enough to shock her into changing for the better.

Pavias mum i was actually more depressed about, the phone thing was ridiculous. I would have been mortified if that was my dd - she would have lost that phone for the rest of the week day for such blatant rudeness.

Was interesting what the 'expert' was saying about the mum having firm boundaries in some areas (i.e. not being allowed to go to Leeds) but when it came to food was a complete pushover. I imagine they all need counselling to work out what is going on there.

My dd is 9yo, we were at the dentist this morning and my dds teeth were fine but i worry that she has too much squash and juice. After that programme I will be reducing it and being more vigilant round teeth brushing time.

I think the hv told me when dd was 2yo not to bother with kids toothpaste and just get a basic adult one (obv non whitening) so she has had a basic colegate one ever since. Dd has also had some stuff painted on her teeth twice now which is meant to help prevent cavities.

Next weeks programme looks equally depressing.

Deux · 19/02/2015 15:02

I think it's interesting how it's easy to see obese as the new normal.

When I saw Pavia's with her friends I thought, Crikey they're skinny in comparison. But they weren't were they, just a normal size.

ghostspirit · 19/02/2015 15:06

just thinking that had it been a child that was to under weight or anorexic we would have been saying she needs help and i think we would judge less. but because shes over weight its all the parents fault. probably no black and white answers

BsshBosh · 19/02/2015 15:08

None of the parents seemed to be exerting any parental authority. It made me sad when that dental surgeon said that it's no longer acceptable to blame the parents (when clearly it's the patents' fault for not being stricter).

NimpyWWindowmash · 19/02/2015 15:15

The parents seem to feel at a loss at what to do, they exuded helplessness.

maybe they were never effectively parented themselves, so would not know where to start.

You know, parenting is hard work and you have to be unpopular often, to give kids what they need rather than what they want

My youngest DS had to have a baby tooth pulled last week, despite my being careful with soft drinks/sweets etc. He had one tooth that went bad, and ended up with an abscess. It was very painful to him. We went to out of hours dentist (amazing really, called 111 on a Sunday, could see a dentist that same day).

It was horrible for him, and I felt bloody guilty. Dentists was worried I looked like I was about to faint.

Don't wish this on anyone.

But be careful not to be smug, as it really can happen despite regular tooth brushing and not allowing sweets. Dentist was lovely actually, I did not feel I was given a hard time, just felt supported really.

Behindthepaintedgarden · 19/02/2015 15:21

But in your case Nimpy you did something about it immediately. Tallulah's mother ignored the problem, missed an important appointment, continued to give her daughter sugary drinks and was careless, to say the least, about tooth brushing. She left the child for ages with painful teeth and abscesses and she eventually had to have half her teeth removed. That is serious neglect and not simply an unfortunate occurrence.

Aeroflotgirl · 19/02/2015 15:42

I know Helena, it was not very nice, but it contributed to me deciding to loose weight. I was feeling down about it before. Cannot get into nice clothes, feeling down about my weight, not being able to walk very far.

Pantone363 · 19/02/2015 16:18

Back to the tooth brushing in the living room, I don't think it's ok.

It's about boundaries and routines and tooth brushing being a normal routine part of the day. At a sink. With running water. Not in the living room!

And I'm not a smug perfect parent, DD 9 has had two teeth pulled. Dentist said the rest of her teeth are perfect, no fillings no plaque. She goes for a check up every 6 mths and has the fluoride paint. Those two teeth (same two on each side) just went bad. Possibly the raisins and smoothies she mainlined (middle class equivalent of coke and sweets) possibly just two bad teeth.

ouryve · 19/02/2015 17:00

You don't need to have running water to clean your teeth. If anything, it's wasteful.

Gileswithachainsaw · 19/02/2015 17:05

I think if it's going to cause trauma to a young child when watching a cartoon on TV on the lounge can distract and result in cleaning teeth with no fuss then I do t see a problem doing it in the lounge. Once they are older you can tell them but ultimately teeth brushing is not something you want huge fights about

ghostspirit · 19/02/2015 17:13

i agree as long as the teeth are being brushed dont matter where it is

Moniker1 · 19/02/2015 17:21

The meal 'served' to Tallulah was shoved onto the chair arm, wasn't even sitting straight, the child was lolling around whilst eating - ridiculous really, where would her mother get the idea that that is how you eat meals. There are tons of soaps and people eat at tables (ok not always) there's no excuse even if she was brought up badly herself.

Ubik1 · 19/02/2015 17:24

I was just Shock at that programme. Poor little Tallulah

siblingrevelryagain · 19/02/2015 18:40

With regards to adult toothpaste and kids, my dentist explained that they could have 'grown up' toothpaste (with more fluoride) once they were able to spit it out and not swallow it.

salsmum · 19/02/2015 18:49

My 'children' are adults now but I do notice that in half term the supermarkets ALWAYS have the crisps fizzy drinks,pizzas,chocolate all the crap junk food on special offers and child height. Personally my kids had sweets as a VERY rare treat much less cakes and sweets/junk food and we walked passed a sweet shop EVERYDAY on the way home from school. You really have gotta be cruel to be kind.

GregorSamsa · 19/02/2015 18:53

Wrt 'adult toothpaste', the difference is in the quantity of fluoride. Even if they're not spitting it out properly, the risk of too much fluoride (possible mild fluorisis, which is essentially cosmetic) is much less than the risk of too little (dental decay, abscesses, etc etc).

So I'm assuming moar dental professionals would prefer parents to err on the side of overdosing rather than risk underdosing with all the risks shown on the programme.

Trazzletoes · 19/02/2015 19:50

DS' age 3-6 toothpaste has the same fluoride as an adult's. It just has a more "child-friendly" taste. There's no problem with them having adult toothpaste younger than that except for the risk of fluorosis.

I have fluorosis and am very self-conscious of my teethas a result. It's very noticeable and I hate it but nothing can be done about it.

I refused to spit my toothpaste out until I was about 8. I wish someone had explained to me at the time what would happen! I remember being warned about fluorosis but no one actually explained to me what it meant so I didn't care.

avocadotoast · 19/02/2015 20:53

I'd never even heard of fluorosis until I googled it just now. Looks like that's what I have (a little at least) on my front teeth. Never knew it had a name!

HelenaDove · 19/02/2015 22:34

Aeroflot ive seen so many before and after pictures/stories of people who have lost weight. (i was one of them I was an SW class woman of the year) and in a lot of these stories/experiences the bullying is either glossed over or touted as a good thing. I find this incredibly worrying.

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