Junk Food Kids

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So frustrating watching this - surely some of this parenting falls into the neglect category?

That is very interesting Helena, I woukdent be surprised. I only started to get big in my 20s, I was always very slim before then!

I can see that, Helena. I'm really careful about what I say to ds, it's the off the cuff comments that are made without a thought which have a lasting impact. My mother's mum was emotionally abusive and it took a lot for me to break the cycle. My mum didn't know any better.

Hope you're OK, Aeroflot She sounds nasty

How can Pavia's mother stand being spoken to like that? "get me a drink". Cheeky cow, I'd make her get her own or not let her have one at all if she spoke to me like that. No politeness or respect. No wonder she has issues - the professor was absolutely right that she needs boundaries.

What I remember of the programme now, as it's been a few days, was the sad, exasperated expression almost constantly on Pavia's mother's face - can't be nice to be the constant despair of your DM.

And the confused slightly apprehensive expression on Tallulah's face, she seemed self conscious of the camera (not surprisingly) but worried about what was going on. Poor wee thing, too bad when she realizes why everyone was so interested in her, not her pretty face or bubbly personality but her fat body

Poor, poor Pavia.My heart broke for that girl.She should not have been paraded on TV like that :-( . In my opinoin .She is very very low if not clinically depressed.She seems to have gained a huge slice of her excess weight since starting secondary school.

What her mother and that doctor need to do is raise that little girls self esteem and make her realise that they think she is a wonderful and beautiful person she is NOW. The last guy (the non NHS) expert was on the right track when he said she was lost.Not until she feels good about herself will she have the mental resources to tackle her weight.

On again now.

"If my kids are happy with a few teeth missing it's not the be all and end all"

"Give him a few sweets and take his mind off it" After he's had his teeth out under anaesthetic?

Nemo is a fucking disgrace.

I showed my 6yr old the last episode of the teeth being taken out. Ive never seen her brush so well :)

I can't believe the attitude of some of these parents!

Pizza followed by hash browns and fried fish at home but school dinners are to blame?

I actually CANT eat greasy food anymore. Having eaten healthily for a while now my body has got used to it and adjusted accordingly

Her mum calling it a "secret cupboard" wont help. It will make choc/crisps etc seem forbidden and more attractive.

Something NEEDS to be done about the fact that she is being bullied at school and online.

Yes I just thought that. How vile are those people being to her.

its so to hear she's lonely too but obviously can't be helped with her mum working. She's such a pretty switched on young girl bless her

Bit at the doc saying that the trouble with poverty isnt lack of money

The parents on this show are shocking in their ignorance. I am genuinely gobsmacked.

Some of these parents seem to have unrealistic expectations of their child - expecting them to change their own diet? Having a cupboard full of sweets and not expecting them to eat it.

Oh, the presenter said it better than me

Norah they seem to think their kids are grown up enough to manage it by themselves. They are just children.

I bet if the same kids asked their parents if they could stay out late up the park etc they would suddenly be treated like kids again.

trying to wean him.off sweets?

he's 4 if you don't buy them he can't have them. end of.

Some of these drs are sneery I thought too, as is easy if youve had a more privileged life.

I know what you mean Helena, but I think he meant it isn't that causing the tooth problem, it is often the priorities; it is possible to get toothbrushes and paste for as little as sweets cost (though I would have thought giving them out at school/nursery might help in some cases) but brushing teeth isn't top of the list for some families. I'm sure it still is for others though whatever their circumstances. Does anyone know if food banks do toothbrushes and paste? Just wondering.

A random point but I was a bit unsure about the surgeon / medic's conversation approach when asking the boy who was about to have all his teeth out if he was ready to have Magic done or whatever she tried (well-meaningly) to say in a playful way. As a child i'd far rather a clearer idea of why it was important to take the teeth out as waking up without them traumatic enough.

I know everyone or most saying the parents are lazy but I actually think there's just a cluelessness about healthy parenting and boundaries. Our children were just told firmly they are not allowed to help themselves to the fridge for example and that we eat at mealtimes / given snacks. And I grew up drinking water so never occurred to me to change that.

I'm left feeling sad and definitely think Pavia's mum has low self esteem and loves her daughter and just didn't realise children can thrive best with firm discipline whenever needed.
I couldn't believe how rudely Pavia said get me a drink for example and it won't be good for her self esteem as she will know deep down her behaviour isn't nice or thoughtful. I really hope they work it out as found it tragic her mum caring so much but not daring to be the strong mum her daughter seemed to need

Just seen the first episode.

Pretty shocking stuff watching the little kids having all those teeth pulled out.

The dentist who more or less said it was all 100% preventable and all the parents fault made me feel a bit sad for my friend though - her eldest DD had terrible problems with reflux for her first few years, and all the vomiting caused by the reflux caused a lot of tooth decay in her DD, who's had to have lots of work done on her milk teeth at the dental hospital. They've tried really hard to do the right things - I hardly ever see her kids with sugary drinks or snacks, and the younger kids have great teeth - and it sounds like they might get lumped in with parents who just don't bother trying, the way that dentist was talking

Although Tallulah's dental problems looked to be entirely down to poor diet and lack of brushing, from what her mum was saying.

I agree looseleaf