Junk Food Kids

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So frustrating watching this - surely some of this parenting falls into the neglect category?

I wondered about the boy with the fatty liver too and why he was on the programme as he didn't look obviously fat. I think the programme was a bit clunky though. Was that boy on to illustrate how poor food choices can result in medical conditions. We all have lazy tea surely at some point? We certainly do.

The programme didn't have a clear point though - feckless parenting, poor dental care, junk food, emotional (mental health?) issues, obesity.

The 19 stone, 13 year old's mum was as wet as anything. She's 13 you still have a say. She will die young if she keeps going like this.

As for Tullalah, her mother is LAZY. 12 teeth out and absesses? Devastating.

What was with the 'we've brushed your teeth, now lets get you a drink'? Surely you drink before brushing your teeth? I don't think this is helpful, poor Tallulah. Her mum's also overfeeding her.

I have a 15 year old and it's tricky to control what they eat. If there's nothing he likes on the school lunch menu he'll pop to the local shop and buy a packet of sausage rolls and a pork pie! I'm trying to educate him about eating a balanced diet. We eat fish/pasta/chicken at home. He has good teeth and has never needed a filling (touch wood) and doesn't drink a lot of fizzy crap. I don't buy a great deal of chocolate or sweets as he tends to eat them all at once so they are a rare treat. It's probably better then eating small amounts all the time.

Tiggytape - thanks for that. I wasn't aware of the early puberty thing. I think when I saw that boy he was in jogging gear. And yes, his height was disguising it a bit. I missed the early part of the programme.

My friend is quite worried about her DS and his weight gain. She's hoping he'll have a growth spurt but she's been saying that for months now. I realise that after watching this programme that he's actually obese. She's too scared to weigh him as she doesn't want him to have any issues about food/his weight. She mentions it to me at least once a week. What do I say? Should I suggest the GP? Or say nothing?

Pavias mum said she was aggressive didn't she? I'm guessing that's why she doesn't want to stand up to her

Tallulahs mum was just down right lazy. Even brushing her teeth in the living room, presumably she couldn't be bothered to get her fat arse off the sofa and walk to the bathroom to do it.

And laughing about coming down and her 4 year old playing with the kettle trying to make chocolate drink. Yeah...hilarious

I think Tallulah's mother needs a lot of help and supervision with her parenting. She's just not capable of rearing those children on her own. She doesn't seem to have much of a clue and instead of being upset when her daughter couldn't fit into a school uniform for a much older child, she just seemed to laugh it off. The fact that she was prepared to be shown on television like that speaks volumes really.

It would be interesting to know the background to Pavia's story. Her mother didn't seem to be stupid or negligent, but something had obviously gone very wrong in the way she was raising her daughter.

Pavia's mum also said that her daughter was now bigger than her. The implication, I thought, was that she was worried about her becoming violent if she started laying down the law. Also, at the family lunch, didn't the (bird like) granny admonish the mum for referring to Pavia's weight and said she was perfect.

Deux, yes she said "don't say anythjng about my grand daughter, she's perfect"

Tallulah's mum was so blase. She's the one who made me really cross. And thyroid, my arse.

The lazy tea family - well we do "lazy tea" of some sort several times a week, but there's always veg on the side and the portions are controlled. That's what makes the difference, there.

The situation with the teen girl was so complex. Poor girl seemed pretty depressed and she needs a lot more help than being told to diet.

Watching it now on catch up. Unbelievable

i dont think it was lazy of tallulahs mum to brush her teeth in the living room. maybe thats what tallulah had wanted. because mum would have had to go to bathroom to get toothpaste and brush anyway.

someone said about her not brushing tallulahs teeth properly. i dont think she could because of the pain it would have caused. if she hit a nerve would have really hurt her.

my son is over weight :( i do find it hard to tackle. hes 12. he never used to be used to be quite slim then he suddenly wanted to eat all the time. and if i tell him no there are aguments. no means no, of course but im not always about to stop him doing it.

if we have a treat say i tell them they can choose a cake everyone else will choose a small type cake. he has to choose the larger one with all the fancy bits and sweets and stuff on top. again i have to pull the reins in and give him less choice ie what cake do you want out of theses 3. but the other children i could just say what cake do you want out of a whole shelf and they will be reasonable he wont. i don't do that i treat them all the same. but just an example. it will cause an agument when i say no. he will have a tantrum simlar to how you would see a toddler/small child tantrum sort of throws his body about jumping up and down.

Although it is mainly about him. i try and make it about us as a family so hes not singled out.

what i do find hard is when we have dinner and he eats then after says he hungry. it seems much easyer with the younger children

"Maybe that's because that's what Talulah wanted". She's 4 FFS. And Talulah getting what she wanted/didn't want got her into that mess. The mum says clearly that Talulah doesn't want her teeth brushed and would rather watch TV.

I was pretty at this programme last night. My DH was . He's a dentist and has one practice in a high needs area. He says he refers at least two children a week for extractions. Last week he referred the seventh DC from a family of 7. All the siblings have previously been referred. He's made referrals to children's services when children have come in in agony. Most parents either say that their DC have "weak teeth" or they say to the child "Look, the dentist is giving me into trouble and its all your fault for eating too many sweets". Nothing to do with parents facilitating the sweet eating, of course.

He has another practice in a very naice area. Interestingly, tooth decay is rocketing there due to too much snacking and intakes of smoothies and dried fruit type sugery snacks eaten in the course of the day.

We have two DC - one of 25 months and one of 12 months. They are obviously only little but we've so far managed only to give milk or water to drink. I don't offer any snacks through out the day. Ocassionally our two year old will ask for something to eat and will have some milk and a plain rice cake but I don't offer. I really want to try and develop eating habits that don't include routine snacking (which I can be guilty of!) from a weight perspective as much as a tooth one.

Also - you can brush teeth in front of the TV anyway, it's not mutually exclusive. My 12 month old DD is not a fan of tooth brushing so I lie her on the bed and attack her with a pre-recorded Peter Rabbit on for distraction!

Oh dear god, this is absolutely disgusting, what lazy, idle parents these people are! Not only do they allow their children to stuff their faces the way they do they have allowed their poor teeth to become decayed. I'd be utterly ashamed if it were my children, there is absolutely no excuse for children to have to have their teeth removed, well not due to decay anyway. I'm 33 and have one single filling and my three children have none, how can these parents become so complacent and allow these things to happen.

im not sure about the teeth thing of course it can be the parents thought not saying its not. but then also some children do have problems with their teeth. as we have spoken about on this thread. 2 out of 4 of my children had this problem. if my dentist have reported me to childrens services i would have found it very hard to ever trust a dentist again and i would be scared of asking for help/advice when in fact it (can) sometimes be medical.

yes tallulah is 4 still might have been what she wanted so what if she brushed her teeth in the living room. maybe not ideal but at least it got done.

It cant be unheard of to brush teeth downstairs , especially on school runs etc I have to, as someone who already gets up at 6am, forfeits my own breakfast if i didn't id.never get out the bleddy house, I was half wondering does pavia and her siblings have the same dad? Her brother was tiny compared and looked very different. I wonder what pavia's school life is like, would have been interesting. I think with talulahs mum there was an aspect if understandable outrage/poverty porny editing going on, she was obviously socially intellectually lacking seemed a tad exploitative, i wonder if tallulah has a relative who could better care for her. Care would be a bad idea. I didn't like the female dr one bit something about her...

Pavia's mum feels powerless sadly, she's also scared of her. The phone thing was just shocking!

I was so sad when her mum was told 90% of kids her age will continue obesity into adulthood

I've been overweight and on a diet since I was 20 and I'm now 45. My DD is 7 and a terrible eater, thankfully she's not overweight (yet).

I agree it all comes to to us as parents what they eat, if we provide it they will eat it!

I wish people would stop going g on about the phone thing.

yes to anyone looking in it was rude.

But the poor girl had been ambushed. She didn't want to talk especially on camera and it was all so awfully done.

I think id have wanted to crawl under a rock and hide too

giles i agree probably made her feel pretty crap. gp should have asked if she would rather talk alone. i guess at 13 it might of had to be with mums permission.

Brushing teeth downstairs is absolutely fine.

My point was about the pp's emphasis on it being about what Talulah wanted. The mum said something about well, what 4 year old wants to have their teeth cleaned when they can watch TV instead. Ergo no teeth cleaning as Talulah didn't want that.

But at the end of the show the mum did say it was all her fault. I wonder what the reaction is on her local community.