The missing. Final episode !!!!

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Thought would start a new thread as 3 is nearing 1000

And we will surely fill this one with our musings and omg at who did kill ollie or wow he's alive

I still think mark had something to do with ollies dissapearence

On another forum someone else mentioned that, as well as the boy in Russia looking just like the boy in the reconstruction of how Ollie would look now (see Missing's post above), he seemed to have missing patches of hair on the back of his head.

Consistent with having been in an RTA or hit on the head by the murdering Romanian in the garage?

So ... perhaps the boy would feel a bit curious (he certainly seemed to be very thoughtful). Perhaps he'd do some questioning. Perhaps he'd take himself to the police or try and find out more about Tony and his quest. Perhaps.

One slight grouse--the grown-up Ollie (if that's him) and the photo of how he would look in the newspaper actually looked more like a French boy than a British boy: that very fine forehead and nose, etc. Very Gallic in appearance.

obv the boy looked like ollie at the end as he isnt going to hunt and stalk blond curly haired boys is he

still very at the ending :(

what did the Russian do with ollies body?

and a fox????? really

He was Romanian, not Russian.

Another untidy piece of the story is that Baptiste was still in Chalons du Bois when Georges was found/killed himself. This was some months after the scenes with Alain (they were in winter). Surely he'd have returned to his retirement and would not have been running around the woods with Laurence.

The fox isn't that surprising. Ollie had a mr Fox soft toy he was crazy about. His mother said he was mad about foxes when they gave the press conference after his disappearance. The fox has always appeared in the opening credits.

Maybe BaptiBaptiste was still helping look for Georges because he was hoping he would, reveal what happened to Olly's body so the parents could get some closure and have a funeral.

I saw that as baptiste wanting to see it through to its conclusion - to arrest georges. Although one thing that is bothering me is the non-conclusion for the throat-cutter. He wasnt arrested at any point, was he?

I just can't accept that Alain's brother would not have checked that Ollie was really dead. Or that as a magistrate he would have hidden the body and gone through the whole charade of the investigation to protect his piss-head of a brother. Or that Sylvie wouldn't have noticed her husband was totally drunk or remembered that he had run after Olly to give him back his scarf. I think Tony's descent into madness and going round stalking boys who look a bit like Olly is much easier to accept although it was a truly bleak ending for him. Obviously we were supposed to think Emily's speech at the wedding showed she had a much better attitude and approach - though I can't help thinking Tony would have had a better chance if she hadn't gone off with Mark. And what was the point of Malik? As is always the case the ending is never as good as the anticipation. I have loved this thread though.

Haven't posted up until now, just been reading BUT wouldn't sylvie have noticed that one of the sobrierty coins was missing?? She spoke to Tony about hoise much they meant to her.
Plus when Alain first knocked Ollie over he rang the emergency services and put the phone down once they answered, wouldn't the police be able to tell that?

Also why no blood or damage to his car? And no tyre marks on the road??

Haven't read any of the thread but I liked the ending. Well, not really. I found it very upsetting but I also found it realistic.

At first I tutted like: 'Oh God, what a cop out. He's going to be alive in Russia.'

But at the end I realised Tony was trapped in a hell of hope.

I took from it that Ollie was dead but that Tony couldn't accept it because there was no body. He drew the big-eared stick figure in the frost. I kept thinking: 'That boy is going to screw up the last picture from Ollie and throw it in the bin because it means nothing to him, and why should it?'

Sorry, if that's been said before. I'm sure it has.

I felt desperately sorry for Tony that he was clinging to that hope. It had echoes for me of the mother of a boy called Mark Tildesley who was abducted from a fairground in the Eighties and was most probably murdered by a group of paedophiles who were convicted of the murders of other boys. The other boys' bodies were found but Mark never was and she lived in hopeless hope.

She was endlessly pestered for interviews and endlessly pestered to give them in order to keep her hope alive.

I used to follow that case because it was one of the first big stories I worked on as a reporter. Watching last episode of The Missing made me realise I hadn't thought of her in years.

One day the endless pestering stopped and I didn't notice.

I've left her behind and moved on with my life - like the others in the drama did.

I'm not trying to be over-dramatic - sorry, if it's coming over like that - but it makes me so sad that she couldn't move on. But why should she? And why would Tony?

There were some niggles - Sylvie would have to find out the truth about Alain and I don't understand how, if Ziane didn't turn in the sobriety medal and , Georges knew about it. I realise that the eavesdropping prisoner might have tipped him off but really?

But all in all I thought it was really good.

Going back to read the rest of the thread now.

I agree Limited. The 'resolution' to the story is Tony's lack of closure. I can only imagine that echoes the experience of parents of missing children. I thought it was a brilliant ending.

Did anyone else think Tony walking stiff-legged in the snow was a nod towards RB in Utopia? The mouth breathing was very like him and they're both characters brutalised by the break up a family unit.

Sorry, I meant:

I don't understand how, if Ziane didn't turn in the sobriety medal how , Georges knew about it.

I realise that another inmate was eavesdropping but thought it was a bit pat that he'd hear it and know to tell Georges.

The first story I covered like this was in 1984 of a 17 year old who was stabbed to death on an ordinary Saturday night out.

Then and now I had absolutely no reason to believe anything other than that he was a nice boy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time and was foolish, as 17 year old boys are, to try to intervene in an argument to protect his friends.

His dad (Bill) was remarkable, not only in his determination to set aside vengeance and let the criminal justice system take its course, but to try to discourage young men from carrying knives to be big men. That was within days of his child's death. I didn't think about it at the time but now I'm older I can't believe someone would do that. He didn't have any religious conviction.

He set up a charity to raise awareness about knife crime and pumped-up boys. That went well, didn't it?

I sometimes Google him and he's still going for it, aged 70ish.

Meanwhile his boy is still dead and the silly boy who stabbed him is middle-aged and out.

I don't even think Bill would object to that, but it's tragic.

That's really interesting and sad limited

How did Tony survive financially? Did neither of them have jobs?

ollies last pic was getting very tatty and torn,surely he would liminate it?

I sure it would . I just felt that it was the last piece of Olly and at that moment I was wishing Tony wouldn't hand it over because the boy would just throw it away. Why wouldn't he? He seemed like a very nice boy and so did the police officers. They were just doing their jobs and they didn't understand what drove Tony.

We never found out what Tony's job was. A job so important he had to stop driving to take a call which is what started the whole ball rolling. And then never mentioned again. (waves to Poinsettia from The Archers thread)

I was about to post re the timeline of Georges killing himself and the wedding ...I took it that Georges had been on the run for some time, hence tony getting the call at the wedding.BUT it seemed to be winter in France and summer at the wedding?!!

Just a thought ...if Georges was aware of the whole child traffiking thing going on, he woluld know who was involved. So maybe when he saw Ollie in the van maybe what he saw was not his body, but Ollie in the hands of someone he knew would remove him from the country (clutches at straws!)

I don't think it matters what Tony's job was. He could have odd jobs or he could be old enough to have a substantial inheritance.

The timeline was wrong. I believe it was Russia: Present Day. If it was Russia: The Future, I'd have been happier but I won't quibble.

I still think it was very good.

But why did Tony go to Russia to search for Olly? What did Baptiste say to him on the day of the wedding/missed phone call?
I was crying through this , but some of that was to do with the dreadful news from Peshawar yesterday.
Also, what had the mayor done for the Romanians that he could call in a favour?
I felt really wrung out at the end & still have a lump in my throat thinking about all the poor real life people who live through this (missing children)

wouldn't sylvie have noticed that one of the sobrierty coins was missing?? She spoke to Tony about hoise much they meant to her.

Yes, this was odd. Also, in her big speech to Tony about them, didn't she only show him and talk about one coin, the one he got after his first year sober? I'm sure they only revealed that she kept them all in the last episode, when it was required for the plot that she had them all.

shins, yes, Alain draped Olly's face in the scarf so you'd think it was at least a little bloody.

I also thought it was odd that, once they'd tracked down the house he was kept in and had one fairly brief interview with the woman who lived there, they didn't seem to ask any further questions – such as who else lived there? Who would have known the house was empty? Her affair with the mayor might have come out under questioning.

Tony will go anywhere to search for Olly. But Olly is dead. That's what Baptiste said to him and that's what seemed to be his acceptance when he rejected Baptiste's call on the wedding day.

He changed his mind and now seems like someone like a child abuser like Ian or a wannbe like Vincent when he's neither. But he scares children.

Been thinking. in order to locate Ollie's body why didn't they track down the Romanian Throat-slitter?

Or is he dead?