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The Missing BBC1- thread 2

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EauRouge · 27/11/2014 14:18

Original thread here, disappearing scarves, grey-haired doppelgängers and twin theories abound. Has anyone done a spreadsheet yet?

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forago · 28/11/2014 22:23

ooooh i like the Romanian orphan theory! They have an older child. He dies, possibly as a result of the affair, beating up, court case, something. They cant conceive again for some reason so adopt illegally (as Tony would not be approved because of violence, police record, court case etc?).

The family contact Emily and blackmail her into bringing him back, she arranges the meeting in France, sits in the back so she can scupper the car at the right place (somehow), gives them his scarf (but why not the fox?) and tells them where and when would be a good time to grab him! BOOM!

LillianGish · 28/11/2014 22:24

Maybe Diana Quick did something similar with Molly - took her away somewhere for her own safety (not sure why she stayed with Ken Stott though in that case).

ArsenicSoup · 28/11/2014 22:34

must run in the family Smile

Who is 'hospice man' Lillian? I'm going to have to watch again...

forago · 28/11/2014 22:41

Greg?

LillianGish · 28/11/2014 22:48

The man Tony beat up who then turned up at hospice. don't take any notice of me - I think I've gone a bit Diana Quick.

ArsenicSoup · 28/11/2014 22:56
Grin
AmIthatHot · 28/11/2014 22:58

Marking place. But also liking fun's idea that it was Mary that lured Ollie away in the bar

I am following it, and it is good. So many unexplained things that will soon become clear

reem1 · 28/11/2014 23:14

Hmmm maybe there is a reason why Emily's dad mistaken James for Ollie...

There is a lot of happening that distracts Tony from relevant clues I think.

There is pedophile cover up in the town I think writers might be relating to real life cases where prominent people were involved in or covered up similar situations. I guess it's not just Ian and Vincent (who I have a feeling was abused as a child himself) but possibly George (mayor or police chief) and more.

The main story is missing Ollie but parallel to it there are stories of other missing people although not necessary in the sense of totally vanishing.
There is always lots of photographs of the children in the background:
-Molly
-Sarah (Julien's daughter) - missing in the sense of a person she was before addiction

  • hotel owner's children- there are few scenes showing photographs of what I presume are their children and the niece that George mentioned might be one of them;
  • even when showing journalist in his office, on the shelf next to him, there is a photograph of a child
And of course children on Ian's tapes (although it's 52 tapes we don't know how many children).

I also think the water has some significance: the pool, Vincent fishing, police divers, Ian and his wife on a yacht, Ian murdered in his boat. Each episode has some important scenes linked to water.

Water - rebirth - I know I'm probably digging up a wrong hole now!

ClapAlongIfYouLike · 28/11/2014 23:21

Some one said earlier (liliangish?) that all the dream scenes have this slowed down look to them. This made me since if perhaps the scene where tiny to Ollie to the swimming pool had actually also not happened. Tony seems to be very much under pressure room his job having to take phonecalls even when on holiday etc. It seems to my that there is hadn't a scene in which he is not holding an alcoholic drink and he does a lot of his issues with violence. Either he word into the pub to watch the game and have a pint forgetting her was in charge of Ollie, or actually it was Emily who went swimming with Ollie when he went missing, and she prefers to remember it this way? This might explain her realistic dream about buying Ollie on the poolside?
Clutching at straws here... [Grin]

ClapAlongIfYouLike · 28/11/2014 23:25

Apologies for silly autocorrects, should have proofread

reem1 · 28/11/2014 23:36

ClapAlongIfYouLike I like your theory

Also Molly and Ollie story might be in a way very similar, maybe Molly's story tells us what happened to Ollie. Two very similar names, possibly both high powered fathers (we still don't know Tony's job but there is a sense of it being important), both parents live separate after the incident (although Ian and wife are formally together, Mary herself told Emily that she didn't see him for a very long time). Mary struggles with mental illness, Emily might be heading this way too (the way she controls herself, out bursts in the bathroom but then pulls herself together in almost artificial way)....maybe Molly and Ollie shared the same fate.

Although we still don't know what happened to Molly.

Ohmygrood · 28/11/2014 23:37

Emily gave up the hunt because she wasn't strong enough. She moves on with her life because it's the only way that she can survive but it's all a facade. She breaks down in secret.

I'm also wondering about Emily's Dad though...how soon after the abduction did they arrive?
Ollie would have gone with him. He could have taken the scarf from the bag while they were in the pool.

reem1 · 28/11/2014 23:58

I think her parents arrived the next day after Ollie went missing, it was about the same time when police started to suspect Vincent.

The dad didn't have much to say but his words might be telling:

  • his first words when he saw Emily were "oh baby...." (Thought it was strange that the father calls middle aged daughter a baby)
  • possible grudge with regards to what he and Tony did
  • baby in Feb2000
  • mistaking James for Ollie

That's about all he had to say in all episodes.

R4roger · 29/11/2014 07:21

just caught up with latest episode on iplayer, only there for another days Shock eek.
and
marking place

rumbelina · 29/11/2014 07:57

Can anyone link me to the archers thread please?

LillianGish · 29/11/2014 08:18

The Archers here

Wellthatsit · 29/11/2014 10:23

Can I join in thus fab thread. I have read both threads. Wiw, so many details I would have missed without all your analysis.

My theories are that Tony buries ian in the half built foundations of the church - you see the cement mixer and the marked out foundations covered in a tarpaulin in last week's episode (there were several scenes where you see this).

I don't think Emily is involved in Ollie's disappearance buy is scared if Tony and his violence at the time if the disappearance, hence keeps apologising. In present day, she has become harder and colder and is not moved by him and his feelings because of everything that's happened. She is playing happy families with Mark and his son as a way to 'forget' her list life.

Vincent is Ian's stepson, abused by Ian and therefore turned into a paedophile himself, which disgusts him and he has tried really hard to suppress it, hence never abusing anyone anyone directly, despite his use of child porn), and hence his voluntary chemical castration.

Yes to hotel owners having lured the child away at the bar. I though it weird in the early episodes that they seemed happy to have tony and emily stay in their hotel with the crazy media circus going on and not get upset or stressed about it. Also yesbto the towns dirty secret of a paedophile ring being covered up. Mayor is part of it, probably abusing the niece he talks about.

Can't believe Monique is Molly - child was rather boyish looking, yet grown up is all glamorous. But she is obviously going to be significant in some way.

No idea re the french policeman and what he found in the drain, or what actually happened to Ollie and at whose hands.

LineRunner · 29/11/2014 10:31

wellthatsit hi.

Do you think the garage people directed the family to the Hotel Eden deliberately? Or was it just the nearest...

Been wondering about that.

Also, did Hotel Woman ever take the small bed up to the room for 'the little one', as she called Ollie, and when? She talked about it when they checked in.

Wellthatsit · 29/11/2014 10:41

Yes, garage people are a bit suspect. They took three days to identify a flat battery. Or us it just that they fixed the car then it sat there for days because everyone was busy looking for Ollie?

Don't know about hotel bed? I am resisting the temptation to rewatch all the episodes. Did that for The Fall when series 2 started, as u couldn't remember who any if the dead people were Grin

LineRunner · 29/11/2014 10:45

I think they phoned to say they'd fixed the car, and then Ollie wanted to go swimming....

giraffescantboogie · 29/11/2014 10:54

This prog is so good. I feel like I need to watch them all again though to analyze them!

This is how much I loved Broadchurch too!

LillianGish · 29/11/2014 11:06

wellthatsit I love your analysis (much more logically reasoned in the cold light of day than my insane ramblings last night - I was opting for the least likely scenario on the basis that that is usually the case in these series!). The small bed is definitely in the hotel room - I remember someone sitting on it at one point and thinking I wouldn't sit on that one it might not support you!

Wellthatsit · 29/11/2014 11:09

Just noticed all my typos: sorry, using phone...

toldmywrath · 29/11/2014 11:13

Thank you everyone for all the marvellous theories & I, too, recognise a few names from The Archers thread (film listener here).
This has got to be one of the most discussed programmes ever- & I have nothing to add except I wish I could watch all the episodes again with the pause/slow mo at hand. Smile

DillydollyRIP · 29/11/2014 11:33

I have no idea who the abductor/s could be, it's making my head hurt.
I really hope all the ends get tied up though.
Surely Tony can't get away with killing Ian, there was blood and fingerprints everywhere?