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The Missing BBC1- thread 2

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EauRouge · 27/11/2014 14:18

Original thread here, disappearing scarves, grey-haired doppelgängers and twin theories abound. Has anyone done a spreadsheet yet?

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CrapBag · 04/12/2014 10:54

I'm wondering about Laurence. She was very dismissive when Tony and Baptist showed her the drawing in the basement and Ollie's drawing from the car. She said she didn't really see that they were the same when they are identical! She was reluctant to get the case reopened, what did she actually do during the original investigation and there are these small focuses on her own dd. Surely as a parent herself she should understand how desperate Tony is for answers? She always appears like its an inconvenience to her. Slightly odd?

CrapBag · 04/12/2014 11:10

Also I'd hate for it to be Tony and I don't think it actually will be but its interesting what someone said about dream sequences being shown slowed down and this was how it was when they were swimming. Plus the minutes that Tony can't account for and all of the water references, Tony's quick and violent temper and his ability to stretch the truth as to what actually happens in certain violent situations.

But then he wouldn't be on this desperate hunt to find Ollie so I don't believe it is him but probably the writers trying to make us question the possibility.

I don't see how Emily is with Mark after the best day of his life comment. He's an unsupportive shit. He made no attempt to get her to keep Ollie's toys, why did he even ask her, why didn't he assume she would want to keep them. He hides the fact Tony is trying to get in touch with her. He might have had vital info about the investigation. He tells her they don't have 15k when its obvious they do, the wedding fund. He doesn't want Ollie to be found. Although I don't believe he had anything to do with it. Its all for his own selfishness to keep Emily with him which may not happen should she find Ollie.

SolomanDaisy · 04/12/2014 11:32

I think Laurence is focusing in her own career. She's clearly become closer to the Mayor and doesn't want to disrupt that. But she also has a child herself, so she is torn and wants to help too. In 2006 she clearly hero worshipped Baptiste. As she's got older she has become more pragmatic, but she keeps getting drawn back in.

diddl · 04/12/2014 11:38

i wonder if Mark & Emily will get married.

I think that she's built up a family for herself, but that was surely eroded when James wanted his mum not her, & back at the house when Mark, James & the mum looked so cosy together.

I'd quite like it to be Tony, some accident & a cover up.

But I doubt it.

also, when Tony got to the bridge (2006) & Mark was hugging Emily, I wonder if he'll now beat Mark upHmm

There's quite a bit of emphasis on his temper, perhaps so that when he killed Ian it didn't seem totally implausible/out of character?

EauLittleRougeofBethlehem · 04/12/2014 11:40

Mark would easily win in a fight and Tony knows it Grin

diddl · 04/12/2014 11:45
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AvonCallingBarksdale · 04/12/2014 11:53

No way, Tony would have Mark, easy peasy.

EauLittleRougeofBethlehem · 04/12/2014 11:54

Maybe we should rate characters for likelihood of Tony being able to beat them up. That might give us some clues.

MarthasHarbour · 04/12/2014 12:04

Just need to mark my place as this thread is soooo long!

funambulist · 04/12/2014 12:12

When Tony saw Mark comforting Emily I think that he knew he'd lost her.

As to whether Mark or Tony would win in a fight I think that Tony would win if he was sober and Mark if Tony had been drinking. He drinks a lot.

Hmm, perhaps if Ollie is found Tony might be sent to prison for assaulting Greg and Vincent, killing Ian and covering up the murder and so not get to see Ollie anyway.

I feel sure that the final episode will show that one of the sympathetic characters (Tony, Emily, Baptiste) was at fault in some way concerning Ollie's disappearance or the failure to find him, and the knowledge will break them.

Flibbertyjibbet · 04/12/2014 12:29

Mark seems to resent the link that ties Emily to tony via their shared pain of losing their son. Mark wants her to put it behind her almost like baggage from her previous marriage.
any other fiance would be back in France with tony trying to give Emily closure.
Tues at 5 to 9 Dp and the kids know to clear off upstairs while I watch 'mummy's programme'.

But this week Dp was back downstairs going 'who is that?' 'Where are they' 'whose child is missing ' arrrgg! So I'll have to watch it again this weekend cos even just waving my hands at him in a 'shut up and bugger off' manner was distracting me!

Flibbertyjibbet · 04/12/2014 12:32

Incredibly unprofessional of mark to have moved in on a woman at her most vulnerable. Hope she dumps him and gets back on some level of mutual support with tony.
Imo mark is not helpful to tony in the investigation because he considers Emily too godo for him.

funambulist · 04/12/2014 12:35

My DP decided not to watch on the grounds that it would be too distressing to watch a programme about a missing child. Actually, now we're 6 episodes in I think that he would enjoy it, but it's a bit late to catch up. It'll be like the Killing which I watched on my own and then was so convinced he'd enjoy it that I bought him the box set.

AuntieStella · 04/12/2014 12:36

"Incredibly unprofessional of mark to have moved in on a woman at her most vulnerable."

Yes, that's what I took him to be referring to when he said he'd thrown his career away for her.

I think that when the events of 2009 are shown, we will get the so-far missing info on what finally broke the Hughes marriage and when/how Emily and Mark got together.

funambulist · 04/12/2014 12:40

I think that Mark knows it was unprofessional of him. Indeed he has blamed their relationship for his lack of career progression.

I think that both Mark and Emily want her to "move on" and be happy, especially as Emily seemed to have a nervous breakdown in 2006 as a result of Ollie's disappearance and the knowledge of how violent Tony is.

The trouble is that although outwardly Emily is calm and controlled she is breaking down (sometimes several times a day) in secret. I don't think that her and Mark's relationship can survive with them both hiding so much from each other.

mewkins · 04/12/2014 12:46

What if it wasn't mark who moved in on emily but the other way round?

Wellthatsit · 04/12/2014 13:04

When people first suggested that Ollie was mistakenly taken and it should have been James, I though that was crazy. But now am starting to think that is more and more plausible.

Also think that Tony probably got distracted at the bar, and so the kidnapping could have been easier than it appears in the episode. I.e. Ollie wanders out of the crowd, kidnapper spots him, entices him over and persuades him to go with him/her, no force involved and not as fast and slick as it is made to appear in the episode.

Vistaverde · 04/12/2014 13:05

Having read both this and the previous thread I thought I should at least contribute my thoughts instead of just reading those of others.

I think that Ian's house is significant. It seems to have been shown a lot in the series to date for it not to be. I wonder whether Ollie was taken there? and not necessarily with Ian's knowledge. I wonder whether the title of Tuesday's episode "concrete" is more significant than we think at the moment. I really hope not.

I don't think that Vincent was involved but was witness to events. Ian arranged for his alibi not because he was involved but because he was worried about his activities coming to light. The drain evidence at the moment is circumstantial by itself. It links the person(s) responsible to the crime scene but not to the crime itself. I suspect that the journalist is hoping that Vincent witnessed their involvement.

I also don't think the Greg story is the thing that Tony and Emily's dad referred to in episode one. I think whatever it was significant to Ollie's disappearance though. I wonder whether it is to do with the Morocco incident and that the Hughes family are involved somehow. This would help to explain why the journalist has remained so interested in the case. It would also lend weight to the theory that Mark was in France because he was interested in Tony.

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BeyondTheTreelights · 04/12/2014 13:36

Even if emily made a pass at mark, i think in his position (as LO) there would be rules against acting on it?

diddl · 04/12/2014 14:10

But we don't yet know when they got together.

So far in 2006, she has gone back to England with Tony.

peanutcookie · 04/12/2014 14:10

Hi all, have zero theories to add but just wanted to say that these threads have kept me as entertained as the series itself. After all the chat about the first episode holding all the clues, I watched it again last night and saw NOTHING more than I had observed the first time so all the clues completely passed me by. I'd make a rubbish detective (unless I was on law and order: svu where I usually manage to solve it in the first half of the episodeGrin)

peanutcookie · 04/12/2014 14:11

I'm also staying clear of the spoiler thread. How many episodes left?

diddl · 04/12/2014 14:14

"I wonder whether the title of Tuesday's episode "concrete" is more significant than we think at the moment."

You mean the episode that was on tuesday?

Didn't Laurence phone Baptiste & tell him that they had found nothing?

Vistaverde · 04/12/2014 14:15

I wonder whether Tony's problem with drink was a cause of the marriage breakdown or a result of it?