The Missing BBC1- thread 2

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Original thread here, disappearing scarves, grey-haired doppelgängers and twin theories abound. Has anyone done a spreadsheet yet?

I saw him first skills

Just thought. Didn't Sylvis say that Alain had given her his 20 year sobriety medal. So he might have given her each year's medal as he earnt it. So if it was a sobriety medal that was found in the drain then maybe she dropped it. AND I think I know how Sylvie (or someone else) tempted Ollie away from Tony's side in the crowd. They used Mr Fox, Ollie's soft toy. Ollie doesn't have it with him when he goes swimming and Emily can't find it the night Ollie disappears. She starts searching the room for it in the middle of the night I think. I thought she couldn't find it because it was dark, the room was messy and she was in a panic, but perhaps it wasn't there. It must be put back later as Mark finds it in a box when Emily moves in with him and James. I can imagine a 5 year old following his soft toy through a crowd and then being grabbed.

If Mr Fox was used then someone at the hotel must be involved. I think we've only met Sylvie and Alain. Sylvie seems more likely, though she seems so nice.

The fox was in the room after he was taken
She searched for it in a panic, but it was there.
And she still had it years later.

I thought that maybe he was tempted away with his scarf. Would explain why he wasn't wearing it and it ended up in the basement

Darn it. Another theory bites the dust.

Funambulist- I said that earlier! I think that maybe the fox was put back in the room in a random place which is why Emily couldn't find it easily. For example, Ollie had left it on the bed, but Silvie put it back in his suitcase or something.

the journalist has children - the toys belonged to them and I really don't think the hoteliers are involved at all. They've had too secondary a role for them to be significant

If Emily stayed in the hotel room, then no-one could have taken the fox that night. But if she went out, then someone in the hotel could have done so (either the proprietors, or someone facilitated by one/both of them).

As well as Ollie's fox being in the opening credits, the final misty shot shows a fox slinking off in some woods.

Why does everyone seem to think Malik is evil?

What has he actually done which is bad without a (potentially) good motive behind it?

I've just looked back at ep1. Emily was cradling the fox when she was pacing the hotel room that first night after she got back from the police station. Fox briefly went missing later, after her mother had arrived.

The fox is in shot when Emily gets the first phone call

I don't think the journo is a bad guy - or Mark

Going round blackmailing people is not really a sign of good character.
He keeps the evidence to himself as well.

He uses the case for his own career, he did say the day Ollie went missing was the luckiest in his life.

Somethingfunny, I agree!!! Earlier on this thread c.page 10 or something I said that I think those we think are evil are the good guys. Malik did indeed use people to get inside info and boost his career...but, hey, he also knows the police are corrupt and therefore he is doing the investigation for them... he seems slimey but actually what can he do? I think he is just as doggedly pursuing the truth as tony. We assume this is again so that he makes money or furthers his own career bit what if it's because he now has kids and wants the truth about what happened to Ollie?

I really can't believe that tony or emily were anything to do with the abduction. They have basically sacrificed everything in pursuit of the truth about their son.

So Alain...I think he knew something or somehow felt guilty for what happened to Ollie which meant he started drinking again.

The guy in the mask...to me it points to an organised abduction (hell, they arranged a cleaner to come!).....but was it the abduction of Ollie that they planned?? Someone mentioned how boisterous ollie was...perhaps he wandered off or witnessed something he shouldn't have. There wasn't much time for this to happen but what if he unwittingly got caught up in something so had tp be 'removed' from the scene?

I don't think the journo is a bad guy

Well you wouldn't would you nancy?

BBC have a clip from new ep up.

They seem to be showing good and bad in everyone.

I'm struck by how Vincent, a character who should be figure easy to hate because of his collection of child abuse images and involvement with Garrett's criminality, actually garners sympathy because we see how damaged he is and how far he will go to find a 'cure' and perhaps now be journeying to atone.

arsenic - true !

I'm sure he's nice to his granny, but my, he is smug! Very hard to warm to.

Just watched the bbc clip

Dislike Malik even more.

Yes, auntie, Vincent is brilliantly played so that we actually feel sympathetic towards him.

I loved the scene in which Baptiste gave tony back his shirt. Sure, it shows that he doesn't do things by the book but he obviously knows how dodgy the police are (eg. Tony would be imprisoned for murder and still the world wouldn't know what Ian really was).

The title of ep 8 is on the bbc site now.

I felt quite uncomfortable about Baptiste covering up Ian's crime.

Ian beat up Greg pretty seriously in 2000, judging by the photos and should have faced charges.

He beat up Vincent a few days after Ollie disappeared. Tony was arrested for this I think. Why wasn't he charged.

And then he kills Ian.

Given his history, I would expect him to kill or seriously injure someone else in the future. How will Baptiste feel when that happens?

I guess Baptiste can sympathise.... each violent episode has been linked to his son and the threat that each of tjose people posed to his son's health/happiness. Maybe Baptiste woshes he were more like Tony and that he should have/could have done something more for his daughter of he hadn't done it all 'by the book'.

8 years have passed and Tony still has no resolution as to what happened to his son.
Baptiste knows, through the evidence on the tape, that Ian was a paedophile. Having 'lost' his own child (to heroin), maybe he thinks it would be better to give Tony a break.
The French have a little more understanding of 'crimes of passion' don't they, or is that a myth?