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The Missing BBC1- thread 2

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EauRouge · 27/11/2014 14:18

Original thread here, disappearing scarves, grey-haired doppelgängers and twin theories abound. Has anyone done a spreadsheet yet?

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ArsenicSoup · 02/12/2014 23:48

True, but I think the mayor at least knows about the paedophile ring. And having the knowledge (and not acting on it) makes him complicit.

LauraPashley · 02/12/2014 23:49

I am most curious about what Moroccan policeman picked up!
Something that would straight away give a clue? And it was just outside the pool complex, so anything of Ollys would not be that significant would it? As they knew he had been there. So it must be something that links to who took him. Too small to be a phone?
Female hotelier's sobriety chip??

Jenda · 03/12/2014 00:04

I missed the show of next weeks, what happened?

ArsenicSoup · 03/12/2014 00:05

Posted upthread by reem at 22.57, Jenda

AuntieStella · 03/12/2014 00:25

I'm curious about what he saw in the drain too. It must have been small enough to fit through the grill, but big enough to lodge within easy reach, clear enough to spot, and easy enough to get hold of and pull out. Plus be obviously recent or have some other characteristic that made it instantly recognisable as likely to be connected. Memory stick on a lanyard? But why would that be lost on a road?

FlorenceMattell · 03/12/2014 00:49

Marking place, sorry flu and too tired to comment. Best thing on TV for ages.

AnyFucker · 03/12/2014 06:37

I think it's one of those sobriety medals too

SolomanDaisy · 03/12/2014 06:42

I wondered if the thing they found was some sort of identification. A piece of a uniform or something. But then it needs to be something that is both immediately connected to the case and needs 24 hours for the journalist to make use of it.

I now don't think there's a paedophile ring. The funding is enough of a link to the mayor. I wonder if there could be a link to terrorism. That could be what happened with chamartain. Tony could be army/security services. He must have been pretty fit to swim back from the boat. Quite far fetched though!

funambulist · 03/12/2014 06:55

Sobriety medal - of course! Could be Alain's, but there must be other members of AA in the town as well.

bobinsky · 03/12/2014 07:07

I think what was found in the drain was a picture of Mark's son James......

Trunchbull · 03/12/2014 07:07

I bloody dreamt about The Missing last night. Tony crawled into a secret tunnel from the hotel room, found a cavern full of toys and supernatural forces and a lake, learned all the secrets from them, developed super powers and flew off, leaving Julien to, erm, hang out with me.

Back in the real world. Alain, Alain, Alain. He is the key. I don't think he went to his meeting, I think he fell off the wagon. But I'm not sure he took Ollie from the bar. I think Ollie ran away from the bar because he was scared of the celebrations. It's SOMETHING to do with that meeting, and Eden. Maybe Alain had been sober for 20 years up to that point?

Still as confused as ever!

Trunchbull · 03/12/2014 07:09

And I don't trust that Mark one little bit. What's the deal with his promotion/ job, no developments on that at all this week!

Coconutty · 03/12/2014 07:17

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AuntieStella · 03/12/2014 07:27

Coconutty: the thread is getting long - you might want to look back at the posts at about 02-Dec-14 19:17:00

funambulist · 03/12/2014 07:29

I did wonder about the thing in the drain being a picture of Mark and James, this suggesting that James was the intended target of the abduction rather than Ollie, but I seem to remember that the thing Ziane took out of the drain was too small to be a photo. Shame as I was developing a nice theory about James being taken in connection with some police investigation Mark was involved with. Then the bad guys would blackmail Mark into dropping the investigation in return for giving James back. When they discovered that they'd taken the wrong boy by mistake they'd panic and kill him.

ArsenicSoup · 03/12/2014 07:29

I think Ollie ran away from the bar because he was scared of the celebrations.

One thing that struck me re-watching episode one was how bold (even borderline wild) Olleh was (his parents allowed him to be); He went off and was balancing along the car track thing in the garage when the car broke down; He lead the way into the hotel, happily rang the bell on the counter and spoke to whastername; On entering the hotel room, he was straight onto the bed in his shoes, bouncing trampoline-style (Emily smiling at this Shock).

He wasn't a shy, timid child who was used to sticking to his parents' sides and following strict rules.

He could well have wandered a bit or happily gone with a familiar person with a plausible tale.

mewkins · 03/12/2014 07:35

Yes my thought wss a sobriety token. Agh no not Alain!!! I will be disappointed.

Trunchbull · 03/12/2014 07:35

Or yes, he could have wandered off not scared, just adventurous! There was just something about the way the camera lingered on his face when the car wouldn't start - he looked like he was expecting things to kick off. If Tony has a temper, maybe he hears a lot of shouting?

Ohmygrood · 03/12/2014 08:05

I'm wondering about the blood. I don't think it's Ollie's blood. So possibly as suggested blood after a fight/argument.
Could Ollie be the wrong nationality? Did they want a French child?

SomethingFunny · 03/12/2014 08:10

Didn't Silvie say that the drink killed Alain in a previous episode? (Episode 1?). That's weird if he had been sober for 20 years, isn't it??

Malik seemed really angry/ personally involved in the Charmartain case. I am wondering about a previous missing child- his brother or something? He is so attached to the Olleh case as it is personally connected to him. Suddenly the whole nasty journalist makes sense- he is trying to bring x to justice because of something that happened personally in the past, but can't do it through usual channels as they are corrupt?? Is Malik now no worse than Tony? Or maybe is actually the good guy who is trying to solve the case without the corruption of the police...

Charmartain is a place in France according to Google. Although some of you seem to know that this is not a place but a person.

The evidence Zidane (Moroccan detective) picks up and then gives to Malik stays with Malik until the present day. Malik can't present to the police because they are corrupt?? He needs Vincent to collaborate what he already knows (and has learnt from the evidence). When this is done, he can publish his book and the Ugly Truth. Vincent is only free and willing to talk now because Ian is dead (has been for 8 years, but Vincent only just knows) because Ian no longer has the power over him through his mum.

Laurence's ill daughter- maybe she is going to die and therefore become yet another missing child.

SomethingFunny · 03/12/2014 08:12

One more thing- Zidane was wearing the exact same mask as the man who told the cleaning guy to clean up in the basement. Significant or coincidence?

funambulist · 03/12/2014 08:15

A few more thoughts.

Tony wasn't exactly truthful when he told Emily what happened with Ian. I believe that he described it as an accident and suggested that he and Ian got into a fight in the course of which Ian was killed. In fact, as we know, it was far more one-sided, Ian did not really fight back and although Tony was acting in the heat of the moment he certainly intended to seriously injure Ian.

It made me wonder whether when we saw Ollie's disappearance we were seeing Tony's "version" of it. The account that he has given Emily and the police that may not be completely accurate.

Emily is a rubbish liar! Was anything more suspicious than the agonisingly long pause before, with Tony glaring at her, she confirmed his alibi for the evening Ian disappeared. It even made Julien smile it was so obviously false.

Poor Mark must already be in love with Emily though as he swallowed it completely.

I thought the scene where Emily and Tony left Hotel L'Eden with the press banging on the car, shouting at them and asking how they could leave when Ollie hasn't been found and with Emily seeing visions of her son was unbearably poignant.

Why didn't Tony, Baptiste and Emily try and get more information from Karl? He said that the man wore a mask, but what about finding out height, skin colour, accent? They don't even ask if he saw Ollie and if he did whether he was dead or alive.

Tony and Emily didn't seem to really react to the fact that Karl had to clean up blood, which I was shocked by, as it's the first evidence that Ollie could be injured or dead.

Ohmygrood · 03/12/2014 08:16

I wondered about that but I thought it would be just too obvious, so a red herring.
Zidane was at the station the night Ollie went missing as part of the investigation, so couldn't have easily disappeared to the house. Although did he look like he'd been in a fight - I can't remember whether he had a black eye or not after that?
I think Mark was wearing the balaclava. He hadn't appeared in the story at that point. It wasn't Sylvie's husband as he's a larger build, and the person wearing the balaclava was a slim build (I think).

SomethingFunny · 03/12/2014 08:17

Is there some kind of thing in this series about bad guys being good guys and good guys being bad guys?

Malik - seems evil but is really trying to help and solve the case
Cleaning man- eveil money grabber, but left Ollie's picture
Ian- is actually evil, but wants to die and puts up money to help find Ollie (tenuous)

Tony- we want him to find his son, but actually he is a violent man and a murderer.
Zindane- police and trying to solve case, but actually involved in something else.

I am sure there are others. Maybe it is trying to tell us the world isn't black and white- goodies and baddies...??

Ohmygrood · 03/12/2014 08:18

Could have been Tony in the mask also. He's tall and slim.
Wasn't Ian or hotelier husband anyway.

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