The Missing BBC1- thread 2

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Original thread here, disappearing scarves, grey-haired doppelgängers and twin theories abound. Has anyone done a spreadsheet yet?

He said something about his father working on the unsolved case- whether as a detective or a journalist, I don't know- so that is his connection to Charmataines. But there are still a lot of unanswered questions with the journalist.

Unsolved Moroccan murder has personal significance though, something to do with his father.

Baptiste gets even better with every episode. Just hoping very hard we don't get an episode where the writers are going 'hah, we lulled you into thinking Baptiste was a good guy, but he's been a baddie all along!'

I have absolutely no idea what is going on, btw, but it's compelling. I need a Letts revision guide to explain it all to me!

Help! I'm falling behind. I'm not picking everything up and you are all too quick for me. Can you tell me:

a) Remind me of this Charmatain talk from earlier episode between journo and Ziane. Don't remember any talk of a murder done by Ziane?

b) Very early on Sieg was seen in a car watching Ziane take a phone call. What was that about?

c) Tonight's episode - please tell me in words of one syllable what was going on in that last scene. Guess it was 2006? Baptiste is getting into a car. Did someone give him the brown envelope or did someone throw it into the front seat? Then he was attacked by a hooded person (who turns out to be Ziane), but was there a third person who came to Baptiste's rescue? My tv screen was too dark. Will have to watch on Iplayer. Why did Ziane attack him?

d) If journo has the evidence and so therefore we assume he knows what has happened to Ollie, then why hasn't he come forward to tell and won't he get into trouble at some point - hiding evidence?

Sorry, being dumb I'm sure, but would so appreciate your thoughts. to you all.

It's as clear as mud to me as well!

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Preview of next week's episode, no big spoilers I think but don't watch if you don't want more clues!

a) not sure murder was ever specified, but there is something serious that journo can blackmail Ziane about.
b) can't remember
c) envelope was delivered to police station for Baptiste and he took it out to his car. Third person rescuer was Mark the (dodgy) LO.
d) not yet revealed. Perhaps if Baptise persuades imprisoned Ziane to talk, he'll go and ask the journo.

I'm on my phone so a bit slow and have already forgotten half the things you asked.

Sieg watching Ziane was shortly after olleh goig missing. sieg saw ziane find the evidence and phone malik to tell him.

I don't think it's ever been said right out that ziane killed chamartaines but it has been implied. malik has had power over ziane hence all the inside info on the olleh disappearance.

hope that mkes sense, I wish they would make these phine keyboards bigger.

Whoreandpeace

C) 2006, yes. An English journalist (Malik?) had left the envelope at the police station for Baptiste. He carried it to the car on his way home. Before he closed the car door he was attacked by a thug in a blaclava who wanted the envelope. Mark turned up, overpowered the thug and unmasked him - thug was Ziane.

Ziane needed the envelope back because it contained information that incriminated him and revealed his corruption (the obvious suspicion being Malik had dropped him in it because he refused to play along any longer).

I'm dreadful with names but how I understand it is -
English journalist was passed, by his now dead dad, some time ago, information on an unsolved murder in Morocco. His father couldn't solve the case/get to the bottom of it. For some reason as soon as English journalist saw the French Moroccan policeman, now in jail, he knew he was connected to that unsolved murder. I assume he is murderer from that case.
Back in 2006 he used this information to get him to give him information on the case involving Ollie.
Moroccan policeman picked up something in the gutter which white haired man saw him do. Instead of handing this in he passed this to journalist.
The English journalist, once being threatened, passed in information on Moroccan policeman which Baptiste picked up at reception. Moroccan policeman got wind that journalist handed in information and probably knew it would be about him so he tried to get this off Baptiste.
So envelope leads to Moroccan policeman being sent to jail for murder (that's why he's still there) but he may be able to help
Baptiste if he can tell him what he passed to journalist that was never passed on to enquiry.
Is that everyone's understanding??!!

We don't know what Charmartain is,or its significance. Just that Ziane has done something bad enough for Malik to be able to blackmail him.

As Baptistery was packing up to leave the town, as the case had been put on hold, the secretary handed him an envelope from a British journalist (presumably malik) which he Putin his car. As he was about to drive off, a masks zone attcked him and tried to grab the envelope.
Seig claims he was told to go and clean up the road for his dodgy bosses and saw Ziane find something in the drain.

Lol at us all answering together.

Ye, Janus hss summed it up pretty well.

sieg saw ziane find the evidence and phone malik to tell him.

But he didn't tell Malik then, he told him later in the car outside the station, so was he arranging to meet Malik or talking to someone else?

I thought he phoned malik then and then smashed his phone up in a strop?

Emily is becoming a much more fleshed out character now

I think Frances O'Connor's acting style will be vindicated by the end of the series

That clip is exciting

he must have been arranging ti meet him or just telling him that something hsd been found.

God I love this, will be gutted/relieved when it's over!

d) I think that Malik hasn't handed in the evidence because he wants to make his name as a journalist by revealing the truth about what happened to Ollie. He seems to need to speak to Vincent before he can do this...

We know that Vincent frequented the pool area, that he had a false alibi for the time of Ollie's disappearance and that he now wants to turn his life around.

d) If journo has the evidence and so therefore we assume he knows what has happened to Ollie, then why hasn't he come forward to tell and won't he get into trouble at some point - hiding evidence?

Malik is evil, all he cares about is the big journalistic scoop and being successful enough to fill his dad's shoes.

He can't reveal the evidence he has, because he will be in trouble, but he's trying to follow that trail to 'stand the story up' as they say so he can publish a bestseller revealing all.

X post fun

So what does Vincent know?

Ian's alibi is neither here nor there - he wouldn't have been doing the snatching anyway. This is about networks, gangs, conspiracy.

And the mayor must be in it up to his neck.

Oh just watched that preview - that partly explains it.

I wonder if Vincent was Ian's interpreter for his criminal activities (kept compliant by control of supply of abuse images?)

So he would know the extent of Ian's involvement or otherwise in Ollie's disappearance. Ian and Vincent both denied at various times any direct involvement. But that might not mean no involvement. Or perhaps loss of control of part of the ring, about which they could do nothing.

The evidence Ziane gave journo might support a scenario, but not clinch it. Journo still needs to be done for obstructing an enquiry (is there such an offence in France). I wonder how journo had Ziane's mobile number when re-establishing contact - I should imagine investigating officer's personal mobiles aren't readily given to international press pack when they breeze into town.

This episode partly explained why the Mayor did Ian favours. Ian was funding his re-election campaign.

yy funambulist There can be many levels of corruption, and funding a mayor would be extremely useful to someone in construction, simply for easing the relevant permits. It need not all relate to child abuse.