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susiedaisy · 23/11/2014 21:16

Anyone watching?

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R4roger · 07/12/2014 23:11

i thought may be Tom was a ghost, refusing to die but the words of the song at the end released Isha, hmm, I dont know what I thought

ShotgunNotDoingThePans · 08/12/2014 00:02

Hmm I've got the same questions as you Clawdy; where was he when his parents died,? And how was he left alone in the house aged 10? What did he eat? Did she nip to the shops for food with phantom money? I liked it as it was well-made and I liked the actors, but too many unanswered questions.

gazzalw · 08/12/2014 07:32

Yes, I was convinced that Tom was a ghost too, although not quite sure what convinced me of this (other than a hunch!).

But I could not really understand why Isha would have done anyone else any harm really....If she'd been his ayah wouldn't she have been a benign, nurturing person?

It's not as if it was his fault that she died in the torpedoed ship????

Very spine-chilling (possibly one of the most spooky things I've seen on TV for years) but not a satisfactory ending really...

guineapiglet · 08/12/2014 08:30

Agree that it was beautifully filmed,locations were perfect, very atmospheric and haunting. The story started off so well, mysterious and creepy. I found the whole Aisha thing very unconvincing really and therefore the end made no sense. The shrine in his attic was really quite evil and malevolent, the house was malevolent too. Yet she was supposed to be a good loving force, who couldn't bear to be separated from a 10 year old boy? He couldn't escape from her, she threatened to kill another innocent child; she killed Tom's wife?? She sounds controlling and malevolent, so the last scene of him being dragged down into the water was a possessive cruel act, like some kind of revenge. Very ambiguous and therefore a bit unsatisfying... Great acting though by all the leads.

R4roger · 08/12/2014 08:39

i thought the scene with the girl and her mother, crying that she had had a nanny because her mother left were unnecessary

OhYouBadBadKitten · 08/12/2014 09:10

I think that Aisha was trying to drive Tom into saying goodbye to her. That smile on her face at the end said that she was pleased with Tom singing the song. It was he who couldnt let go.

SoupDragon · 08/12/2014 09:12

where was he when his parents died

What was thinking of that? Was it at the same time Isha died on the boat? I wondered if she saved him.

SoupDragon · 08/12/2014 09:15

she killed Tom's wife

No, Tom killed her because she was singing the last verse of the song. The old lady in the wheelchair in the home was a child at the time and saw it happen. It sounds like it was him who wouldn't let her go rather than the other way round.

Until he felt he had lived too long and wanted to go himself. Or something. That's one bit I can't quite work out: why was he suddenly scared of her and why was she killing people to protect him if she wanted to be released?

WandaFuca · 08/12/2014 23:34

I think it’s the essence of a ghost or supernatural story that there are things that don’t make sense from a logical point of view. I think it’s more about exploring emotions and psychology. The relationship between Tom and Isha started when Tom was very young, and she was likely the one he was most closely connected to emotionally. But his parents just saw her as a servant who could be dismissed once she’d fulfilled her usefulness. So Tom went through huge trauma: being transported half-way round the world, for reasons he probably couldn’t understand, into a very “foreign” world, and then having his beloved ayah taken away from him. But that’s a “classic” psychological diagnosis which might go some way to explaining Tom’s behaviour or beliefs, but doesn’t explain much beyond that.

I guess the relationship between Tom and Isha is more about belonging and loss. Isha has spent the last hundred years keeping Tom alive, even to the extent of preventing Dorothea from singing the verse that would get rid of Isha. I don’t think it matters whether it was Isha or Tom who pushed Dorothea down the stairs, because (within the story) it was Isha’s motivation – she was a jealous being, and Tom had fallen in love with someone else.

I think Tom had been trying to get away from Isha for a long time. Although he could have got rid of her by singing that last verse, that would have meant consigning her to what? What he wanted for himself was to die in peace, but what happens to a ghost? I think the scene set in the millpond was about Tom sacrificing himself to save the boy. The smile on Isha’s face was that she had kept him alive all those years, but now even death wouldn’t separate them – she would have him all to herself not just for an extended human lifetime, but for all eternity. And that’s a scary version of love gone bad.

I loved this miniseries. I don’t mind that there are unanswered questions because it was about a good spooky drama.

And can I be a bit trivial and say that Sheila Hancock was amazing. I looked her up online – she’s 81 years old, yet still looks stunning, and owned the scene she was in.

Silkchiffon · 08/12/2014 23:54

I was thinking the same about Sheila Hancock - she was a really striking presence onscreen. Unfortunately the rest of the episode fell really flat for me and just seemed like pointless padding and spinning the thing out. It would have worked much better as a 90 minute one-off.

diddl · 09/12/2014 08:15

When Tom started singing, Isha let the boy go.

She wanted to be at peace.

I think that Tom chose to be with her.

I think she was always trying to force Tom to let her go.

So was the idea that he was brought up by a ghost??

Blondeshavemorefun · 09/12/2014 08:57

Didn't watch this but a few friends said it was good. IS it worth watching? Found 1 and 2 on demand but can't find 3/last epidsode

Havnt read any comments as didn't want to spoil it if I do watch it

TrendStopper · 09/12/2014 14:36

This was rubbish. My friends who like scary films were tellng me how scary & creepy it was. I'm not a fan of scary things but this was not scary at all. I got bored halfway through but wanted to watch it to the end.

cakedcrusader · 10/12/2014 10:59

I thought the twist in the tale was that we were meant to think Isha was an evil ghost who couldn't let Tom go and he was desperate to escape from her when it was actually him who couldn't let her go. She wanted to be free and it was only him who could release her as no one else knew the end of the song so she started hurting people to try to force him to sing it. In the end he had to let her go to save the boy but he couldn't bear to lose her so he went with her. There are lots of unanswered questions but I think that was done deliberately to make us all keep thinking about it!

DoesntLeftoverTurkeySoupDragOn · 10/12/2014 11:35

I thought that but why did he run away from the house?

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ShotgunNotDoingThePans · 10/12/2014 18:17

I think caked is right too - but again, what's the explanation for his wanting to leave the house? And if he never left the house for his whole life, how did he eat? < so many humdrum questions >

Davros · 10/12/2014 21:26

Loved it. Agree that there were unanswered questions but at least it was a REAL ghost and not a Scooby Doo explanation. But I can't bear Sheila Hancock, not that it matters as she was in it for such a short time.

Blondeshavemorefun · 18/12/2014 23:44

Downloading from Demand and will see what I think

Doesnt seem very scary yet ....

Blondeshavemorefun · 19/12/2014 11:14

Ok. Stopped reading thread as up to epidsode 1 in your musings :) and don't want to read anything that may spoil it

Either you lot are all wimps or I'm really brave :)

Seen 1 and really don't think it's that scary at all blondes is hard Grin

Will watch 2 later this evening if possible - alone and in the dark :)

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