Les Revenants / The Returned

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It's a bit soon for me to have an opinion yet, but it looks interesting enough that I'm recording it to watch later with DH...

It's the big lake and dam at Tignes in the French alps. Cars do go right beside the lake on the main road and if you go into Tignes you drive along the top of the dam wall. Dh has just said the dam is called The Goat Dam, obviously in French not English. I thought he was pulling my leg but he didn't see the programme last night.

Alpine - whoops not Simon - serge - the bloke who stabbed the girl in the tunnel

I think Blondes might be confusing Simon with the stabby bloke in the hoodie.

Xpost :)

zoom out, large lake on right

I don't think there's any significance to the dam, is there? It was just part of the storyline of mr Costa being observed throwing himself off it. Ie he might not have been seen doing that by anyone if there wasn't a ( probably quite regular) problem with the dam levels. The dam workers looked out of the window whilst discussing the levels and that was the only reason they saw mr costa. I think the only significance of this is that there are witnesses to his suicide. Otherwise mr costa'a body would just have been found drowned (if it was ever found in a dam that size).

So now the local people know that mr costa killed himself after setting fire to his own house. Someone local will investigate why he did that.

Aargh, have googled wiki!
Have spoilt it for myself

I have just read the entire thread and now feel prepared to watch episode 1 on 4oD or summat .

Will not wiki, will not wiki, will not wiki...

Christ, Viva any hint that Stephen Moffat has written this under a nom de plume and brought in the bloody crack from Series 5 of Who and I'm switching off.

Blondes - Simon's grave said 2002, so he's 10 years dead and Victor seemed to appear from nowhere in front of the coach, so it's likely he was a ghost then imho.

Fatty - never ever google anything - I learnt that from
Dragon butter and space docking threads

Tee - yes grave said that but think this is a few years old as was obv shown in France first so when said present day at beginning think meant to be 2010 ish - plus Simons /adeles daughter looks about 7

i'm SURE there is something in the water loss of the dam. it's such an amazing 'character' in a way. (disclaimer; dams scare the shit out of me).

Sorry for going AWOL after starting the thread; DH had to go out last night and wanted me to save it to watch together. I didn't want to read this thread until I'd seen it.

I'm generally quite impressed; it's very good on suspense. But I hate the way they've decorated their houses. Too much dark avocado and depressing lighting effects.

Love this concept of ghosts who don't realise they are ghosts, just 'returning'. Apart from Victor who is very creepy. It all looks very washed out too - I noticed the word ugly/'moche' a couple of times.

I watched it again last night after talking to DH about it and telling him how good it was. He is now hooked too.

From watching it again, I can confidently say I have as many questions as before and no new answers!

There's got to be some significance to the dam, I'd go as far as to say that it's pivotal to the storyline .... just not quite sure how.

Totally getting the medium thing, although not convinced that she was murdered due to it as I thought none if the "ghosts" know they're dead, so why would serge target her?

I watched ep 2 last night and they're still going on about the dam losing water

There's got to be some significance to the dam, I'd go as far as to say that it's pivotal to the storyline .... just not quite sure how.

Totally getting the medium thing, although not convinced that she was murdered due to it as I thought none if the "ghosts" know they're dead, so why would serge target her?

the soundtrack (by Mogwai) is available on Spotify

open.spotify.com/album/7znNGZ8iNfLJ41IxEWYJHp

try again with link!

'Love this concept of ghosts who don't realise they are ghosts, just 'returning''

MumInLondon you might like the film The Others, with Nicole Kidman in it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Others_(2001_film)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Others_(2001_film)

Watched it again with DH last night, and after talking to him and a bit of texting between me and my best friend and me and my mum we have confidently come up with some theories (all of which, I am sure, will be proved absolute rubbish in the coming weeks )

-The dam must be significant. No idea how although maybe it holds some kind of space/time anomili.

-The twins haven't swapped. We think that is a red herring.

-Victor isn't one of the returned, he is something else. We think he is maybe the incarnation of "hope" or "love" or "hate" or something.... this isn't a well thought out theory, but something about him makes me think he is different. Also Julie seems sad and lonely and I think it's significant that he has latched on to her.

-Alternatively perhaps people see Victor when something bad is about to happen? Maybe he's like the angel of death.

-Perhaps Lena became pregnant during the sex? Don't know how that fits in yet but it would be a "bad" thing that perhaps Victor is foreshadowing when Camille sees him.

-Perhaps Simon was killed by Adele and that is why she is reacting so badly to seeing him? Or something else happened that implicates Adele in his death?

-Mr. Costa is the one who's made all this happen somehow, dabbling in the occult or something. And when he realises the magnitude of his actions he obviously feels so bad that he kills himself. Perhaps he killed his wife? And trying to ressurect her was him trying to atone for that, but when actually face to face with her he couldn't cope with the magnitude of what he had done?

-Lucy is one of The Returned and maybe a Medium/Spirit Guide or maybe she just has a connection to the dead because she is dead herself.

-The murderer is also one of The Returned.

-Maybe the murderer is killing all of The Returned?

-Pierre has somehow tried to make this happen too- maybe through prayer and some crazy form of Christianity. Maybe he thinks these are the End Times and that ties in somehow?

Oh, I am so excited for Sunday night!!! I'm going to crack out the Boursin and the Gauloises every Sunday for the next 7 weeks.

I think Victor was drowned when the dam was built and filled up. His clothes look as though they might come from the period in which hydroelectric became big in the Alps--fifties/sixties.