Are we ready for Mad Men tomorrow night?

[Lighthousekeeping]

So excited. We're we starting to see cracks in the marriage last season? I hope we see more of Betty this time.

I never even bothered in the end. I just deleted it. I hate all the flash backs.

I haven't got round to watching it yet. Do I need to?

It wasn't for me. I gave it 15 minutes.

I hate the flashbacks too. It's worth watching though, there's a creepy bit with Dons kids that scared the life out of me.

The bit with the kids was really weird. Which is saying something in that episode!

Oh, just tell me please. I won't watch it.

Lighthouse, I've messaged you with my very own personal synopsis
I didn't want to spoil it for others.

I love Sally.

How much Pete, how much Roger? [toomuchwine]

Sorrel eh?

Oops! As in, how much are they in the Ep? Tru

Bugger. Trying to work out whether its worth watching based on Roger and Pete quotient

Just stumbled on this thread and loving everyone's insights. I'm in NZ and I think we're an episode behind you, so trying to dodge any spoilers from tomorrow night's episode.

Thinking about the Don-Roger thing, and why Roger is so liked and Don not ... I think a lot of it comes down to the fact that Roger is almost the only character who has any real warmth. Plus, he's also one of the most open, honest characters, so it's really easy to, well, warm to him and like him, in spite of the dislikable qualities.

Don has barely any warmth. The only characters he shows any warmth to are Anna, Peggy and Joan, really. And I'm purposely excluding his children here. Any warmth towards them seems just that bit too contrived - he doesn't know how to be a father, so he acts out the role to the best of his abilities.

I think the series is starting to pick up.

I think everyone should watch that episode like Sorrel - with too much wine! I think it would make more sense that way!

Welcome DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper possibly the longest nickname ever there
I saw you on another thread and nearly PMed you an invite to this one.

I think it's worth persevering with the episode coming up for you, even though we've roundly criticised it here. The tap dance alone is worth waiting an hour for. I had to rub my eyes with disbelief.

I agree we should all be pissed like Sorrel to watch but we ought to be drinking an old fashioned.

or smoking a doobey

In my defence I did have wine and a martini (sort of 50s/60s drink)

Wine with a martini chaser - you sound like my kind of a girl Sorrel.

I actually enjoyed the episode, despite watching it with a WTF expression on my face. The burglar bit was really creepy - if I were Betty I would have gone more apeshit. Nice to see Betty looking good again aswell.

Hi DonDraper.

Why he is nice to Joan though? I understand Anna-the only one who really knew him and Peggy- he seems himself in her but Joan?

Is it because of Jaguar or before that?

He is nice to women he is not sexually involved with: Anna, Peggy, Joan. I think he loses respect for any women he can bed. Joan was never an option because of her relationship with Roger, so they can interact without the possibility of sex perhaps?

Do you think Don wouldn't sleep with Joan because of Roger?

Joan's slept with other colleagues so she wouldn't be bothered would she?

She slept with Kinsey, but I think that pre-dated her affair with Roger. I don't think she has slept with anyone else in the office though?

Joan is his equal. Detached and sexy to others. She has the same amount of pull as he does.