any ideas who kats seeing EASTENDERS

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i have been racking my brains wondering is it one of the braning brothers i thought it was derick at first don,t no why any suggestions.

mildred sorry I blame Alfie he was first to use the word.

Yeah it is Derek who dies apparently that is why I thought, actually no that makes no sense! Bloody gin!

I just want to know in advance who spoils Maxs wedding I know someone will! Maybe Derek?

I knew it was derek all along

SPOILER ALERT!

Lauren spoils the wedding technically as she tells her Dad about Joey, Max confronts Tanya and Tanya and Lauren fight and Tanya tells Lauren Joey still loves her and Lauren rips up Tanya's wedding dress.

Max gets her a new one for the next day but Tanya doesn't know but before they marry, or perhaps after I am not sure, Derek tells Tanya and the rest of the Branning family about Max's secret.

Everyone loses it with Derek and doesn't want to know him and then he gets killed. Who kills him, I have no idea.

Oh and yeah it's pretty damn grim to think of anyone shagging Derek. Max or Jack I can see why you'd be interested but Derek? I always thought it was Derek though, because I honestly think Jack and Max would have more respect for Alfie and Max is broke so wouldn't be able to pay for her ring, plus Jack is always with Sharon right now so how would he be able to go and visit her?

Still though the thought of anyone with Derek anyone makes me feel ill. Still be sad to see him die though as him traumatising everyone makes for interesting TV.

The secret is Joey is Laurens brother.
Tanya and Derek are their parents.

Oh come on.

First I'm asked to believe that Kat the proven slapper has slept with Derek. Which even for Kat is a stretch.

And then you ask me to believe that Derek managed to shag Tanya?

Seriously? Thats got to be one of the least believable things in the history of British soap and thats saying something!

OK.

DH thinks Derek shagging Kat is nonsense, and there's more to the story.

My take was that he is similar to Kat's Uncle who abused her....maybe some weird/sick kind of thing going on ? A step too far, I think but you never know with EE.

Max's secret ? Is he really the one ? I always thought it was Jack, was disappointed tonight.

I did have a really wild out there thought that maybe Max's secret was Stacey and baby/toddler are back and he's been taking care of them ? That would be bloody good if they had kept a return like that quiet.

DH and I also think that the secret (if not the above) isn't actually that awful, and Derek is shafting Max. Did you see him pocket all that money the other night, Max had given him for 'the others' ?

I realise I have thought about all this far too much and this time next week we shall probably know all the answers !

Alfie on Daybreak yesterday morning said this is the end of Kat & Alfie.......but that next year they get back together to deal with something major....?

Something to do with Tommy maybe?

I thought Derek was covering for Max and that it was really Max. Hence the phone call and that Derek looked so calm.

I would watch what you say she will be shagging sheep next, she is surely getting desperate now

the morning after and I am still nauseated. Derek should be barred (for breaking the smoking ban if nothing else).
I don't quite believe it is him though (or maybe that's wishful thinking) because of the phone call. if she was ringing max to get derek would she not start with "can you put derek on".
I have a theory about Lauren, I don't think she is Tanya's. I think she is derek's and tanya's sister's child. When derek first came in, he alluded to previous sexy time with Renee at max's wedding, saying he remembered it well during his time in prison and how she was "all grown up now".

she is derek's and tanya's sister's child

oo maybe that would explain laurens over the top and addictive personality and she is so dark skinned and hair she looks nothing like tanya or max I did at your sexy time reference,

I don't believe for a minute Lauren is Derek's if she was Tanya would be a lot more horrified she didn't seem that bothered IMO about them being cousins.
She has tried to keep them apart due to Derek's blackmail.

The big secret is to do with Max, not Tanya or Derek. Looks like its to do with money and dodge business deals.

It's revealed on the DM website, in the side bar, for anyone who is interested!

I think derek did it to get back at Alfie because of a dodgy deal he and billy scuppered in the summer (cant remember if it was stolen booze or 'something) but really Kat REALLY

I hope derek gets killed by sharon, and he kills her with his dying breath. Also that Cora somehow also gets killed, along with Bianca. and many many others

caja can you link. There are loads of EE on the sidebar.

no way lauren can be dereks via rape or consensual sex or she would have flipped with the relationship with joey and lauren, and she didnt

unless max is joeys dad and he had an affair with dereks wife/alices/joeys mum

we all know max cant keep it in his pants

he had an affair with tanya while was married to his ex wife

Cora's a toxic screw up though isn't she? Really cannot believe how EE have destroyed the characters of Kat and Alfie - they used to be so likable.

I would take what the daily mail says with a pinch of salt re Lauren being Derek's and who the think the killer is. It looks like its based on the betting odds.

Interview I read on digital spy (much more reliable :o) with jake wood says max is supporting Lauren and joeys relationship. Would link but I can't right now.

No idea what his secret could be though, murder? Drugs? Secret lover named Bruce?