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We hope it's not The Final Problem. Sherlock - 9pm Sunday - BBC1

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givemushypeasachance · 15/01/2012 10:56

I thought it might be an idea to start a new thread for The Reichenbach Fall since The Hounds got its thread up to over 200 pages since last Sunday!

Non-spoilery vague preview description: "Sherlock and John lock horns with their old enemy in one final problem that tests loyalty and courage to their very limits. Sherlock must fight for his reputation, his sanity and his life. But is he all he claims to be?"

BBC link for The Reichenbach Fall

Take note of the later start time of 9pm. Get your deerstalkers and spiffy pocket magnifiers ready!

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CaveMum · 21/01/2012 13:08

I'd like to think that I'd still enjoy the Sherlock programmes without BC, though undoubtedly he is integral to its current success as he is such a fabulous actor. The show is a package, brilliant writing coupled with fabulous actors. If the writing were weak, or the actors, then it just wouldn't work as well as it does.

I think the key to BC is that, whilst he is not conventionally good looking, he has that "something".

MrsDmitriTippensKrushnic · 21/01/2012 13:13

I've said this on a different thread but I love the RDJ/JL films, absolutely love them but they are a completely different beast than the BBC series. The films are just a massive romp, incredibly entertaining and fun but they don't make you think the same way Moffat and Gatiss' Sherlock does.

givemushypeasachance · 21/01/2012 22:41

Just as a passing series three update; Sue Vertue has now said that Steven Moffat was misquoted about s.3 appearing by the end of 2012. Alas!

www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s129/sherlock/news/a361399/sherlock-wont-return-in-2012-executive-sue-vertue-reveals.html

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AntlersInAllOfMyDecorating · 21/01/2012 22:44

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LineRunner · 21/01/2012 22:47

In the Guardian this morning it said that Moffat said that everyone has missed 'the clue'.

CaveMum · 21/01/2012 22:48

Antlers, we (the royal we Wink) think they're involved somehow. Probably "playing" the bystanders that surround John as he tries to get to Sherlock, and of course the cyclist.

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MollieO · 21/01/2012 23:07

Wasn't the clue the open-top stationary lorry parked kerbside where Sherlock would have jumped? It drove off as the body 'landed'. I reckon Sherlock jumped from roof to lorry and rolled over the side on to the pavement as the lorry drove off. Blood was fake and hospital staff were to do with Mycroft.

LetUsPrey · 21/01/2012 23:25

So the out of character thing is throwing the 'phone away. Or the handshakes. Or the collar. Or ... I don't know. Maybe Moffat's winding us up about this too?!

MilkNoSugarAndAShotofWhisky · 22/01/2012 00:52

Have just watched it on Iplayer

Oh.My.God!!

Fucking excellent!

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TheRhubarb · 22/01/2012 11:16

LordoftheFlies - as a diehard Holmes fan I was determined not to enjoy the BBC series. I am very very particular about how Holmes is portrayed and having seen the appauling way in which Hollywood treated the character and the stories, I was pretty much disgruntled that the BBC should have a shot at plunging the knife in further. BC or no BC (I didn't even know how he was)

Yet I found myself squealing with delight at the cleverness of it all, the text messages, the way in which Holmes embraced modern technology and yet lost none of his powers. I loved the direct quotes from the books, the extra bits they would put in (such as the joke about the hat) for die-hard fans like myself. So for me, it was not BC who made this series so great but the writers. Therefore if it were not for Moffat and Gatiss, if they hadn't been such fans themselves, then I daresay I would have hated it as much as the Hollywood version.

Ok - Sherlock acting out of character?
When Molly said that he looked sad whenever he thought Watson was not looking. Since when has Holmes shown any emotion?
Since when has Holmes not noticed that someone else was looking? Holmes, ever observant - it is inconceivable to think that he would not know that Molly was watching. He looked sad for her benefit.

Mycroft reading The Sun, he said to Watson that there was going to be a big expose (sorry my keyboard won't do the accent over the e) written by someone called Brook, then he asked Watson if he had ever heard of him. He was deliberately drawing Watson's attention to the article and to the writer of the article.

Both Mycroft and Holmes would know that there is not a keycode that can open all the doors. Moriarty doesn't even use a keycode to get into the Tower, the Bank or the Prison. They knew all along and Holmes chose to walk into the trap that was set for him.

So the rooftop, the expose, it was all planned and Holmes knew exactly what was going to happen.

CaveMum · 22/01/2012 12:12

Rhubarb, I said a similar thing to DH last night, when we watched it again on BBC3. What if the whole thing was a set up for Moriarty? By Mycroft giving him the ammo and Sherlock playing along they forced his hand.

DH did also comment (he's in the military) that it's far easier to fake shooting yourself (blank round, blood pack, etc) than jumping off a roof!

And finally, did anyone else notice that Dherlock touched the back of his head in an odd manner just after Moriarty shot himself - at firstvivthought it was an exasperated hands behind head motion, but if you watch he seems to be feeling something. [imagining things again]

CaveMum · 22/01/2012 13:41

Just in case anyone has missed it, Steven Moffat has said he was misquoted in the Guardian article and there will not be any more Sherlock this year. Sad

givemushypeasachance · 22/01/2012 14:31

There's an interview with Louise Brealey (Molly) in The Observer today where she talks about feminism, campanology and reading Sherlock fanfiction. Thought I'd share since it was pretty interesting!

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 22/01/2012 16:33

cavemum Shock

the male occupents love Dr Who and Merlin and DH loves Sherlock as well. DS doesn't watch it.

It makes autumn and Christmas for them.!

HarrietJones · 22/01/2012 18:28

I've not got anything useful to add but don't want to lose this thread so am posting pointlessly Blush

marshmallowpies · 22/01/2012 20:20

Just watched it for the second time, at last (waiting for DP to get back from business trip) and I haven't solved the missing clue... :/

However I did think...

  • the guy on the bike was wearing a jumper and beanie hat. Didn't look much like Mycroft or anyone else I recognised.
  • still wondering who was the inside cop who was going to shoot Lestrade...the young guy with the slicked back hair?
  • Moriarty's definitely dead, isn't he? Looked pretty dead to me.
Umm...that's it really. I'd make a terrible detective....
EverybodysSnowyEyed · 22/01/2012 20:28

the inside cop - when they show the builder looking at the gun in his toolbox they also show Lestrade in his office and the guy looks at him. It's his other side kick I think (not the woman).

He could also have said something to the girl to make her scream when Sherlock came in

CaveMum · 22/01/2012 21:21

Anderson is the other cop's name isn't it?

givemushypeasachance · 22/01/2012 22:42

The police officer with the gun wasn't Anderson - Anderson is forensics, and Moriarty's guy was definitely another officer.

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Clawdy · 22/01/2012 23:13

Found Louise Brealey rather irritating in that interview...

frankie3 · 22/01/2012 23:19

And I wonder who made the phone call to Watson saying that the landlady had been shot. It would have to be someone whose voice he did not recognise.

And maybe Sherlock wants to be thought of as dead because he was too much in the public eye to solve any more crimes.

LetUsPrey · 23/01/2012 08:34

Just watched a clip from I think A Scandal in Belgravia where they're in 221B and Mycroft tells Mrs Hudson to shut up. There's a Cluedo board against the wall, looks like it was thrown there in a temper!

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