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The Killing - latest Eurocrime from BBC4

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muminlondon · 23/01/2011 20:55

Promising start to the series last night - just as The Guardian promised, Prime Suspect meets State of Play with a bit of Wallander (i.e. Scandinavian and with subtitles). Really moving scene where the couple whose daughter's body had been found then tried to explain it to their younger children.

Anyone else see it?

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teej · 27/02/2011 16:16

oh sfxmum resist! it's so much more frustrating enjoyable to speculate when a programme is this good!
prolesworth the fact that bengt mentioned a serial killer but the police have not looked at that theory and there is THE FILE, then we probably are talking about someone who has done this before. but if the above theory holds water then they may have deviated from their normal "pattern" for some reason...

teej · 27/02/2011 16:22

ohhh yes the chase - so do we think that means she wasn't actually killed in the apartment? and didn't the post mortem show that she had been held on a concrete floor for a while?

2 more series? bloody hell we need a decent gap or i'll get nothing done. and i thought i was addicted to wallander.....pah!

OhBuggerandArse · 27/02/2011 16:59

Are we certain that Bengt is to be trusted? I can't help wonder that since Lund's talent seems to be very much to do with instinct, perhaps her ambivalence about moving in with him should be telling us (& her?) something.

teej · 27/02/2011 17:25

no not the lovely bengt! i've just managed to clear the lovely troels (albeit in my own head) don't tell me i now have to start work on bengt too!

Habbibu · 27/02/2011 17:28

teej - really interesting stuff about the apt maybe being the first clue. But this is where the serial killer vs Troels being framed sits uneasily for me - if it's serial killer, the Troels set-up seems madly complicated and predicated on Troels doing A Lot of things to make himself appear guilty, and then lying about them. A killer couldn't dream of such a patsy, unless they knew them extremely well, and so was the killing about the killing or about Troels?

Prolesworth · 27/02/2011 17:32

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sfxmum · 27/02/2011 17:35

maybe someone in the coalition wants to get it together them push him out of the way, that dodgy guy in the specs seemed awfully close to the mayor

but think you are right they are either very disparate stories or there is a link yet to be uncovered

Habbibu · 27/02/2011 17:40

DH is convinced it's Morten, but Morten cannot be the guy she was seeing, surely? So either Troels is lying and was having an affair with Nanna, or it's someone else pretending to do Troels/Faust who a girl like Nanna would meet at Boils (!) and want to have an affair with. Which surely rules out Morten?

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elliott · 27/02/2011 17:48

re 'BOILS' - they obviously didn't have an eye to the international market with that one did they?
I think the one thing that is clear is that it is not Troels.
yy the missing women file will turn out to be crucial - after being overlooked for another couple of weeks...
I feel sure the killer will be connected to the political subplot in some way. Maybe Holck, Bremer or Rie's father. But I agree there are inconsistencies in the MO - a setup with a messy apartment doesn't seem compatible with the obsessive psychopathic serial killer theory.

sfxmum · 27/02/2011 17:50

have they had the forensics confirming it is Nanna's blood/DNA?

Blackduck · 27/02/2011 18:06

Yes, they just don't know how long she was held there...
I loved Jan's winging it on being handed his wifes shopping list - that made me :) and I thought a bit of sarah had rubbed off on him as it was the kind of instinctive leap she would make.

jammietart · 27/02/2011 18:29

To me Morten is Kevin Spacey's character in The Usual Suspects (Verbal?).

Could the apartment have been staged after the event? After they found the car? Agree it is inconsistent. I can't imagine a young girl going for Morten either but maybe when he is Faust he is different?

I wonder what it is like in Danish iyswim? Can't imagine it is in anyway as gripping if you understand the language!

DarrellRivers · 27/02/2011 18:35

DH and I spending saturday night not sleeping and discussing the possible prime suspects
We have suspected everyone
Favourite is

Rie's Dad
Also we have liked Oliver's Dad for it

Morten looking promising now

We love Scandi chic in this house

Fivecentsplease · 27/02/2011 18:53

I wonder if they don't all play a part (like in Murder on the Orient Express) - Rie is definitely shifty - her father has connections to Bremmer (he was at his party early on) - is she a honey trap for Troels, set up by the opposition to to bring him down. Or perhaps the car was dumped without the driver knowing the girl was in the boot.

I don't think Troels did it, as he seems too naive and has integrity (a politician?amazing!) - though he was up to something, obviously.

Holck is shifty, and the hints about high expenses in Lithuania seem to point to prostitutes. Was Nana a prostitute (ref expensive boots/cash)

Can't translate the swearing so clearly as in Wallander

Must feed my starving children and stop pondering nordic crime!

smugmumofboys · 27/02/2011 19:01

Just caught up on last night's eps on iplayer.

It's just so good. I have absolutely no idea whodunnit and am resisting the urge to google spoilers. I'm glad it's not Troels as am developing a bit of a crush on him.

I can't wait until next Saturday.

Habbibu · 27/02/2011 19:05

Are there Danish MNers who can tell us what "BOILS" means?

Habbibu · 27/02/2011 19:07

yy to the shopping list, blackduck, but can you imagine the policeman who took the call? "Sorry, he's busy. What? Oh... ok... let me get a pen. Cucumber, you say?"

teej · 27/02/2011 19:07

^^ yy to all the other comments re: lund's jumper , BOILS (urgh), and Meyer winging the question to Rie.

the whole framing troels/serial killer thing is confusing the hell out of me (but i like it!) but that is if we think the two are mutually exclusive. what if they are not? what if the killer was fixated on nanna as his next victim, but she was seeing troels/the young civil servant after he had adopted the Faust account/a.n.other from the campaign team? maybe the killer was jealous and thought fitting up his rival was a good way to get revenge while also getting his normal kick?

the fact troels is such a patsy - maybe the killer didn't KNOW they were THAT lucky?

i'm a bit worried for lund tbh - the light cut and the lift not working - it's a bit like the murder scene then isn't it??

Habbibu · 27/02/2011 19:10

Do you think this will start a trend for Danish baby names? I know a Pernille (of danish extraction) who is lovely, and have always liked (and apparently mispronounced) her name.

teej · 27/02/2011 19:10

fivecents i LOVE murder on the orient express - one of my favourites!!! honestly, after reading the scriptwriter is a big Christie fan i keep on thinking "what would agatha do?"

Fivecentsplease · 27/02/2011 19:41

teej aha didn't know that....in that case they will all play a part, maybe unknowingly, and for different motives - and the murderer will be someone who is not yet remotely suspected....

We need to know what is in that file.....just.....can't....wait......

OhBuggerandArse · 27/02/2011 19:53

Theis & Troels I think are both marvellous names. But would you be able to think of anything but the characters having seen the series?

Habbibu · 27/02/2011 21:19

Forgot to say that we also loved Spiral - haven't got through series 2 yet, but 1 was fantastic.

UpSinceCrapOClock · 27/02/2011 21:40

Just been catching up on this thread (spent the last week moving flat).

BOILS doesn't actually mean anything in Danish.

Habbibu, that's my sister's name (we were brought up in the UK) and she has always hated it because nobody knows it and comments on it (people generally call her by a nickname, and a lot of people hear it and then call her Penelope?!) Bet she'd love it if the name caught on in the UK :o

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