Big fat gypsy weddings

[LittleDonkin]

So looking forward to this!!!! I loved it last time!

They do seem to have values straight from the 1950's which clashes so much with the slutty clothes.

OK. but it doesn't look like they are bein educated/schooled but rather doing housework/childcare.

DH says you can either home school, have long period of absence and keep moving, or they pay the fines. He has this in his school.

Judith Okely's book is a pretty good account of traveller culture, although it's likely something more recent has been published...

now i am a massive snob but these are very well brought up children. their families are obviously very strict but loving. i'm glad this episode isn't as condescending as the last. i'm so intrigued, they should make this a series

Hasseled you tell that to your average Kent farmer whose fields are ruined by the rubbish chucked out of caravans.

Travellers illegally settling on land is a problem in 'the south east due to the lack of legal sites. Everytime a planning app is made to build a legal site the residents go apeshit.

This programme is fascinating though. The girls are gorgeous, aren't they.

'packs'

Groups ffs. Don't call them packs, they're not dogs.

'It's a boys' world' :(

Their clothes are so revealing!

Are their mothers and fathers happy to let them go out in such skimpy outfits?

I think it is a series, countless

Who are the boys shagging if the girls aren't allowed?

they all look so pretty but could do with covering up a bit

Non gipsy girls?

I don't think the dresses, other outfits and attitudes are that incongruous: it's just extreme femininity on all counts. And I think it's probably a defence against change: absolutist gender relations in response to threat of the outside - so they 'overdetermine' their cultural practices in order to maintain their distinct identity in the face of erosion from modernity.

But I'm just speculating... Wilf: rentatheory.

Maybe the boys are shagging non-traveller girls then, no other options but the sounds of it.

Or 'grabbing'??

crackfox-agree re the paradox witht the strict morals and slutty clothes.

well brought up in some ways, but the values they are absorbing with their mother's milk are scary. There is a huge amount of DV in traveller families and it's not reported or talked about. You see what happens to girls who just go out on their own? It's extreme. Reminiscent of strict muslim or jewish cultures. I suppose it's a strict catholic culture, although the clothing and dancing don't really match with that!

You mean the sort of girls who go on the waltzers at the fair, Thingumy?

God did anyone else just burst into tears at that Aviva ad!?

I can imagine it's a terribly stifling culture if you are a girl. Not many girls going to university or even working I should imagine.

"country girls" I think the last series coined us as.

ooh just realised it is a series! excellent. they really are beautiful girls. well the ones the programme makers have chosen to focus on... i wonder how many girls rebel against the culture of marrying early

haha BOF

Plenty of girls from school were after fair boys/men