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DS 14 has had sex-i'm quietly freaking out

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Lambbaba281 · 01/01/2024 20:04

What do I do?

He's year 10, been with his GF since the summer. She's 15, he's 15 in a few weeks.

We had LOTS of conversations with him as soon as they started dating, covered every topic including WAITING until they were 16. That part has fallen on deaf ears.

He's told DH that they've done it. He used a condom.

Where do I go from here? It happened under our roof (when dh was at work and I was walking the dog).

I've not said a word, as far as he knows, I don't know anything.

It's so ironic, I'm eye rolling at my past self. He was born with one testicle and another problem which needed corrective surgery when he was younger. I worried myself sick that this would affect his relationships. We did a lot of work on his self confidence, we talked openly and honestly about finding the right person and it not being an issue etc. I now think we went too far.

He's 14!!

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Wooloohooloo · 01/01/2024 23:37

If people are quoting the law, they should only quote from UK government websites, not international websites' interpretation/Americanisation of our legal system.

Teens under 16 having sex is nothing new- loads of us were doing it in the '90s. Doesn't make it right but there's so much hysteria on this thread. Make sure they are using contraception (including condoms) and he understands the ramifications- diseases, pregnancy.

Also worth a good chat about consent and his understanding of it, sharing nudes (illegal, even if they're his own), respect etc.

urbanbuddha · 02/01/2024 00:12

Condoms are only 98% safe so for every 50 shags 1 will theoretically result in a pregnancy, so it’s important she gets herself onto the pill asap.

LaurieStrode · 02/01/2024 00:37

urbanbuddha · 02/01/2024 00:12

Condoms are only 98% safe so for every 50 shags 1 will theoretically result in a pregnancy, so it’s important she gets herself onto the pill asap.

Not to mention relying on an excited child to use them correctly.

I wouldn't want my or my child's future hinging on that.

TheFireflies · 02/01/2024 01:07

ultimatepushyparent · 01/01/2024 22:12

Number Theory - I disagree. Our age of consent is clear cut. It's 16. The law does not consider it possible to consent until 16 to sex. It's not called "statutory rape" anymore though; it's sexual assault under the Act.

We're agreed it isn't a police matter. The CPS would not bring charges.
The worst that could potentially happen is that they could find themselves on a register if social services got involved. But it would not happen unless there was a hint of coercion or something. It's just not relevant in this situation. I would however want the comfort of knowing that the girl's mum was in the loop if my son and his GF were doing this for a number of reasons...

I'm not sure how helpful this discussion of the law is for the OP who wants advice on what to do.

Condoms, the pill and plenty of education on possible consequences!

What “register” are you talking about? So many people on this thread using words which are at best outdated and often totally irrelevant to the UK (see also statutory rape and pressing charges). There’s no social services “register” and they wouldn’t be interested at all in intervening in this situation unless one of the children made a direct complaint saying they did not consent, at which point they may co-work with the police on an ABE interview, but unlikely to be any follow up even in that case.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 02/01/2024 01:25

Wooloohooloo · 01/01/2024 23:37

If people are quoting the law, they should only quote from UK government websites, not international websites' interpretation/Americanisation of our legal system.

Teens under 16 having sex is nothing new- loads of us were doing it in the '90s. Doesn't make it right but there's so much hysteria on this thread. Make sure they are using contraception (including condoms) and he understands the ramifications- diseases, pregnancy.

Also worth a good chat about consent and his understanding of it, sharing nudes (illegal, even if they're his own), respect etc.

That's really important. Strictly speaking sending each other nude photos, even if they have consented to receive them is illegal. It's a crime to take, make, share or keep an indecent photo or video of a child under 18. The only exception is when 16 or 17 year olds take intimate photos with a spouse or partner and they're not shared with anyone else. "Partner" means a far more committed relationship than 2 underage teenagers still living with their parents.

JingleSnowmanTree · 02/01/2024 01:40

Itsmychristmasdress · 01/01/2024 20:10

Is that accurate?

@Itsmychristmasdress

i can't say too much as the kids involved are not mine, but they were 15, had consensual sex. Sometime later (about a year) her mother was furious & convinced her to go to the police & say she'd been raped. They were still together as a couple. It was not long before Covid & so he's had to wait a long time for the court case, which turned into a complete farce.

he's just had his 19th birthday in a youth offenders prison. He suffers from stree, anxiety etc (and was in the process of getting a diagnosis of ADHD, aspergers, something) He was on medication that was helping him loads, but they won't get it for him, so he's in a bad place. Hes a nice kid, but in a total mess now!

2 consenting 15 year olds. It's a real nightmare. She tells everyone she wanted sex with him, her mother says otherwise.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 02/01/2024 01:54

JingleSnowmanTree · 02/01/2024 01:40

@Itsmychristmasdress

i can't say too much as the kids involved are not mine, but they were 15, had consensual sex. Sometime later (about a year) her mother was furious & convinced her to go to the police & say she'd been raped. They were still together as a couple. It was not long before Covid & so he's had to wait a long time for the court case, which turned into a complete farce.

he's just had his 19th birthday in a youth offenders prison. He suffers from stree, anxiety etc (and was in the process of getting a diagnosis of ADHD, aspergers, something) He was on medication that was helping him loads, but they won't get it for him, so he's in a bad place. Hes a nice kid, but in a total mess now!

2 consenting 15 year olds. It's a real nightmare. She tells everyone she wanted sex with him, her mother says otherwise.

The "statutory rape" stuff is not correct. The girl is older than 13 and if she consented it is not rape. If she didn't consent, then it's rape.

Aphotoaday · 02/01/2024 03:53

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 02/01/2024 01:54

The "statutory rape" stuff is not correct. The girl is older than 13 and if she consented it is not rape. If she didn't consent, then it's rape.

It is correct in the country the poster previously explained she lived in.

Mummyoflittledragon · 02/01/2024 04:34

JustanotherMNSlapperTwat · 01/01/2024 22:52

That seems to rely on surveys being filled in etc

If I had been asked as a teenager if I was having sex or engaging in sexual activity I would have said no. I also would have been lying.

True. However, teenage pregnancy stats don’t lie. They’ve halved and are the lowest since records began in the 1960s. Consent has been a major issue and once consent is key, contraception has played a role. Compared with the past, children in general are thinking more before having sex.

Benibidibici · 02/01/2024 04:50

I can guarantee no one is being prosecuted or going on the SO register of the sex was consensual.

Surely the point is consensual is a subjective term and a lot of 14/15 year olds girls "consent" because they are talked into it by a boyfriend. Its not always "enthusiastic" consent.

Ascubudr · 02/01/2024 06:00

LaurieStrode · 01/01/2024 21:32

Come on.
Parents are fully in charge of a child's whereabouts, if they want to be. There is zero reason that these kids ever have to be alone together.

Of course that takes actual effort on the part of parents. I guess it's easier to hand them a box of condoms and hope for the best.

Ask any qualified psychologist or therapist whether sexual relationships at age 14 are healthy for these children.

What are you talking about ?
I my family there are 4 generations of women being sexually active before 16;
Dd ( now 17) had sex just before she was 15 at a party, consenually, they used condoms. I then encouraged her to get the implant. She has had boyfriends since then her current biyfriend for 18 months, she did well in her GCSEs , doing 3 A-levels, jas a job outside interests, seems fine .

I had sex a few weeks off my 16th birthday (1990)- went on to to have many subsequent relationships, an education, a career, happy marriage and 2 children.

My DM had sex with her BF @ 15 ( 1969) went on to have other relationships, went to teacher training college, qualified, met my Dad married ( for 51 years) three children still very happy.

My GM met my GF @ 14, I very much doubt they waited until they married @ 21 (1935). They were married 65 years, 4 children very happy.

Just how does having sex at 14/15 mess you up ?

Ascubudr · 02/01/2024 06:10

Benibidibici · 02/01/2024 04:50

I can guarantee no one is being prosecuted or going on the SO register of the sex was consensual.

Surely the point is consensual is a subjective term and a lot of 14/15 year olds girls "consent" because they are talked into it by a boyfriend. Its not always "enthusiastic" consent.

Doesn't make it a criminal offence either. Out of interest why is it the girl who would be talked into it ?

Ducksurprise · 02/01/2024 06:47

Ascubudr · 02/01/2024 06:10

Doesn't make it a criminal offence either. Out of interest why is it the girl who would be talked into it ?

Because it is MN. It has to be the boy that is at fault. Even if the girl is a little (as in this case) or a lot older.

Ducksurprise · 02/01/2024 06:49

JingleSnowmanTree · 02/01/2024 01:40

@Itsmychristmasdress

i can't say too much as the kids involved are not mine, but they were 15, had consensual sex. Sometime later (about a year) her mother was furious & convinced her to go to the police & say she'd been raped. They were still together as a couple. It was not long before Covid & so he's had to wait a long time for the court case, which turned into a complete farce.

he's just had his 19th birthday in a youth offenders prison. He suffers from stree, anxiety etc (and was in the process of getting a diagnosis of ADHD, aspergers, something) He was on medication that was helping him loads, but they won't get it for him, so he's in a bad place. Hes a nice kid, but in a total mess now!

2 consenting 15 year olds. It's a real nightmare. She tells everyone she wanted sex with him, her mother says otherwise.

This is just farcical.

I find it weird this desire on MN to terrify parents that are asking for support.

Mummyoflittledragon · 02/01/2024 06:53

Ascubudr · 02/01/2024 06:10

Doesn't make it a criminal offence either. Out of interest why is it the girl who would be talked into it ?

In fairness, when I was 13/14, it was more likely to be the boy my age pushing for sexual stuff. Was the same for my friends too. As for sex, idk. I only dated older boys / men from 15.

RowanMayfair · 02/01/2024 06:53

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 01/01/2024 22:46

There isnt though. It's not mentioned in the sexual offences act.

RowanMayfair · 02/01/2024 06:55

JingleSnowmanTree · 02/01/2024 01:40

@Itsmychristmasdress

i can't say too much as the kids involved are not mine, but they were 15, had consensual sex. Sometime later (about a year) her mother was furious & convinced her to go to the police & say she'd been raped. They were still together as a couple. It was not long before Covid & so he's had to wait a long time for the court case, which turned into a complete farce.

he's just had his 19th birthday in a youth offenders prison. He suffers from stree, anxiety etc (and was in the process of getting a diagnosis of ADHD, aspergers, something) He was on medication that was helping him loads, but they won't get it for him, so he's in a bad place. Hes a nice kid, but in a total mess now!

2 consenting 15 year olds. It's a real nightmare. She tells everyone she wanted sex with him, her mother says otherwise.

If she tells everyone she consented then there is NO WAY he was prosecuted for this. Why are you making things up?

caringcarer · 02/01/2024 07:23

Make sure he understands condoms are not 100 percent safe. People can still get pregnant using a condom.

Ducksurprise · 02/01/2024 07:53

@RowanMayfair I agree, to what end is that story concocted?

And then pretending that the pretend kid in pretend youth offenders is being withheld pretend essential medication.

MN is an excellent resource to get help and as parents we often need help and somewhere to discuss things. I am really interested to know why it brings out such responses.

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Madameprof · 02/01/2024 08:54

Stresa22 · 01/01/2024 20:28

Tell him he’s still a child and shouldn’t be having sex. End of. Too many parents these days are allowing their children to have sex too young .

Ah yes because telling teenagers what not to do always results in them not doing it lol. Have you ever met a teenager? Do you not remember being one?

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 02/01/2024 09:24

urbanbuddha · 02/01/2024 00:12

Condoms are only 98% safe so for every 50 shags 1 will theoretically result in a pregnancy, so it’s important she gets herself onto the pill asap.

That's not how Pearl indexes work. There's a 98% likelihood of her staying unpregnant during a year of perfect use.

I wouldn't recommend the Pill, it quadruples her risk of stroke. Having emergency contraception on standby would be wise whilst she discusses with Brook what her least-risky non-barrier contraceptive option is.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 02/01/2024 09:29

RowanMayfair · 02/01/2024 06:53

There isnt though. It's not mentioned in the sexual offences act.

The term "statutory rape" isn't used to describe sex with an under-thirteen year old but in practice that's what is being described. Statutory rape refers to sex that is automatically deemed rape because of the victim's age, so the victim cannot consent nor can the perp claim not to have known that the victim was underage.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 02/01/2024 09:37

LaurieStrode · 01/01/2024 21:32

Come on.
Parents are fully in charge of a child's whereabouts, if they want to be. There is zero reason that these kids ever have to be alone together.

Of course that takes actual effort on the part of parents. I guess it's easier to hand them a box of condoms and hope for the best.

Ask any qualified psychologist or therapist whether sexual relationships at age 14 are healthy for these children.

So a child who doesn't come home from school one day and turns off their mobile phone so can't be location tracked, how are the parents going to be "in charge of that child's whereabouts" that evening?

There comes a point in every child's life where, to some extent, the parents are parenting by consent.