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18 yr old son made supid comment in group caht with serious consequences

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helgarr · 10/03/2023 21:03

My son has got involved in a group chat where he went to defend his friend but said something stupid to the girl involved related to a footballer which had horrible misogynistic connotations. Understandably his school have taken it seriously and he now likely to have serious sanctions at school and possible police action if the girl's parents take it further. He seriously regerets what he said and is really worried about his future. He does have aspergers tendencies and finds relectinig on his actions difficult. Does anyone have any advice on what may happen if the police are involved or he gets expelled from school.

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ancientgran · 12/03/2023 18:57

Caviarandgelatine · 11/03/2023 21:20

What on earth has this got to do with anything. Firstly you're talking about people with a diagnosis whose support needs are such that they live in residential care. Not a teen who is in mainstream education, able enough to use social media, who may or may not be autistic.

Secondly, your residents punching people would have happened at a time when they were overwhelmed and couldn't communicate their needs/emotions. Which is not the same motivation as sending threatening messages.

My point is that people are talking like being autistic is a black and white thing, if you haven't got a diagnosis you haven't got it and if you have got it you've got it just like me/my child/my sibling. So people saying he can't have autism are wrong the people saying having autism doesn't mean you can be aggressive/inappropriate/violent are also wrong because I certainly knew aggressive/inappropriate/violent autistic people and as stayathomer illustrates her brother can seem inappropriate to people who don't understand how he sees things.

Caviarandgelatine · 12/03/2023 22:09

ancientgran · 12/03/2023 18:57

My point is that people are talking like being autistic is a black and white thing, if you haven't got a diagnosis you haven't got it and if you have got it you've got it just like me/my child/my sibling. So people saying he can't have autism are wrong the people saying having autism doesn't mean you can be aggressive/inappropriate/violent are also wrong because I certainly knew aggressive/inappropriate/violent autistic people and as stayathomer illustrates her brother can seem inappropriate to people who don't understand how he sees things.

You seem to have struggled to understand what people have actually posted.

Haffiana · 12/03/2023 23:37

Caviarandgelatine · 11/03/2023 18:20

No they didn't, you're mistaken.

Good grief.

Haffiana · 12/03/2023 23:39

Caviarandgelatine · 12/03/2023 22:09

You seem to have struggled to understand what people have actually posted.

What have they actually posted then? -Other people that is, not just what you posted.

Florissant · 13/03/2023 06:38

ancientgran · 12/03/2023 18:57

My point is that people are talking like being autistic is a black and white thing, if you haven't got a diagnosis you haven't got it and if you have got it you've got it just like me/my child/my sibling. So people saying he can't have autism are wrong the people saying having autism doesn't mean you can be aggressive/inappropriate/violent are also wrong because I certainly knew aggressive/inappropriate/violent autistic people and as stayathomer illustrates her brother can seem inappropriate to people who don't understand how he sees things.

Your point is that your post shows ignorance and a sneering attitude toward autistic people.

Caviarandgelatine · 13/03/2023 08:37

Haffiana · 12/03/2023 23:39

What have they actually posted then? -Other people that is, not just what you posted.

The posts are right here on the thread if you care to read them

ancientgran · 13/03/2023 09:06

Florissant · 13/03/2023 06:38

Your point is that your post shows ignorance and a sneering attitude toward autistic people.

No I think you have it the wrong way round. People minimising how catastrophic autism can be, not for everyone but for some, are the ones sneering because they/their mum/this child has autism but they never do anything wrong, never say anything wrong People like the people I worked with need proper support and funding to be able to live a good life and that is what we gave them, unfortunately they aren't all so lucky partly because of people who won't accept that they need a very high level of support.

I haven't said anything that is sneering about the people I worked with and that interpretation says more about you than me because there is nothing wrong with being realistic about how difficult life can be for some people and their families.

So yes pretend the reality for some people doesn't exist, the Tories will love it. No more expensive support - just what they want to hear.

Florissant · 14/03/2023 07:11

ancientgran · 13/03/2023 09:06

No I think you have it the wrong way round. People minimising how catastrophic autism can be, not for everyone but for some, are the ones sneering because they/their mum/this child has autism but they never do anything wrong, never say anything wrong People like the people I worked with need proper support and funding to be able to live a good life and that is what we gave them, unfortunately they aren't all so lucky partly because of people who won't accept that they need a very high level of support.

I haven't said anything that is sneering about the people I worked with and that interpretation says more about you than me because there is nothing wrong with being realistic about how difficult life can be for some people and their families.

So yes pretend the reality for some people doesn't exist, the Tories will love it. No more expensive support - just what they want to hear.

No, I do not have it the wrong way around. Despite being autistic, I can recognise a sneering, unpleasant, superior attitue when I see it.

And it's not the first time I've noticed this in your posts, either.

Thisisthewaywe · 14/03/2023 17:53

I agree with you, @ancientgran fwiw and you see it so often on here. Oh, it’s only autism, I / my DS / friend has it and they are FINE. Good for them, except quite a few are not fine.

ancientgran · 14/03/2023 19:51

Thisisthewaywe · 14/03/2023 17:53

I agree with you, @ancientgran fwiw and you see it so often on here. Oh, it’s only autism, I / my DS / friend has it and they are FINE. Good for them, except quite a few are not fine.

Quite and the ones who can post on here about all the stuff they can do couldn't care less about people like the guys in the home where I worked. You can see it when they are up in arms if some poor mother comes on at the end of her tether saying her child is at the severe end, they pile on about there's no severe end even though they know perfectly well what she means.

Funny how the ones who wouldn't spend a minute helping those guys can claim the high ground. We worked so hard to give those people a good life, my old colleagues are still doing it.

Haffiana · 14/03/2023 21:39

Agreed also, @ancientgran. It happens every single thread.

I really think MNHQ need to start deleting those posts as they are horribly, horribly ableist and dismissive of other's experience of disability.

Caviarandgelatine · 14/03/2023 23:44

ancientgran · 14/03/2023 19:51

Quite and the ones who can post on here about all the stuff they can do couldn't care less about people like the guys in the home where I worked. You can see it when they are up in arms if some poor mother comes on at the end of her tether saying her child is at the severe end, they pile on about there's no severe end even though they know perfectly well what she means.

Funny how the ones who wouldn't spend a minute helping those guys can claim the high ground. We worked so hard to give those people a good life, my old colleagues are still doing it.

When you worked in the home was it paid employment, or was it voluntary work?

frazzledbutcalm · 15/03/2023 10:22

Haffiana · 14/03/2023 21:39

Agreed also, @ancientgran. It happens every single thread.

I really think MNHQ need to start deleting those posts as they are horribly, horribly ableist and dismissive of other's experience of disability.

Mnhq will delete these posts if you report it to them …

ancientgran · 15/03/2023 11:44

Caviarandgelatine · 14/03/2023 23:44

When you worked in the home was it paid employment, or was it voluntary work?

Started as one and became the other. When I was paid I did many many hours of unpaid work including working on days off to ensure residents could go on trips.

ThisDreamyMember · 15/09/2024 13:50

18 is still a teenager (eighTEEN), he is not a grown adult like a 40 year old, he's not any different from 17, Also he has autism and possibly developmentally delayed meaning he may not be in the same developmental level as his typical 18 year old peers

frazzledbutcalm · 15/09/2024 13:52

ThisDreamyMember · 15/09/2024 13:50

18 is still a teenager (eighTEEN), he is not a grown adult like a 40 year old, he's not any different from 17, Also he has autism and possibly developmentally delayed meaning he may not be in the same developmental level as his typical 18 year old peers

You realise this thread is 18 months old??

QuillBill · 15/09/2024 18:11

ThisDreamyMember · 15/09/2024 13:50

18 is still a teenager (eighTEEN), he is not a grown adult like a 40 year old, he's not any different from 17, Also he has autism and possibly developmentally delayed meaning he may not be in the same developmental level as his typical 18 year old peers

A) this thread is from a year and a half ago.
B) an eighteen year old is different from a seventeen year old.
C) the OP did not say he was developmentally delayed. You might as well say he 'could' have one leg.

ThisDreamyMember · 15/09/2024 20:25

QuillBill · 15/09/2024 18:11

A) this thread is from a year and a half ago.
B) an eighteen year old is different from a seventeen year old.
C) the OP did not say he was developmentally delayed. You might as well say he 'could' have one leg.

How is 18 any different from 17, it's only less than a year difference, 18 and 17 are both older teenagers in the same stage of life (they could be in secondary school together since I live in Ireland), someone doesn't magically transform into a full grown adult at 18 or 20/21 or whatever it's a gradual process. 18 is still a teenager (eighTEEN) and lots of 18 year olds are still attending secondary school (I live in Ireland) in the same school year as 17 year olds,

QuillBill · 15/09/2024 21:38

An eighteen year old is an adult. Confused

ThisDreamyMember · 16/09/2024 02:13

An 18 year old is a teenager (eighTEEN) just like a 17 year old (sevenTEEN), it's not 40, and 17 isn't a child either (it's not 5)

ThisDreamyMember · 16/09/2024 02:15

QuillBill · 15/09/2024 18:11

A) this thread is from a year and a half ago.
B) an eighteen year old is different from a seventeen year old.
C) the OP did not say he was developmentally delayed. You might as well say he 'could' have one leg.

An 18 year old is a teenager (eighTEEN) just like a 17 year old (sevenTEEN), it's not 40, and 17 isn't a child either (it's not 5)

ADULTHOOD IS A GRADUAL PROCESS

ThisDreamyMember · 16/09/2024 02:18

QuillBill · 15/09/2024 21:38

An eighteen year old is an adult. Confused

If you are 18, would you rather date a 17 year old or a 40 year old, surely you would pick the first option because 18 and 17 are both teenagers in the same stage of life, an 18 and 40 year old is basically predatory just like an 17 and 40 year old dating

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