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Son brainwashed by Andrew Tate

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NoGoodUsernamesLeftForMe · 31/12/2022 09:55

Until yesterday’s news about the arrest of Tate I had no idea that my son has been following this ‘influencer’. He wasn’t even on my radar. It turns out he is almost a hero figure to my 17 year old. Reading about what this man says about (and seemingly does to) women is a terrible eye opener. My boy has lapped all this up, including the conspiracy bullshit about supra-governmental forces or ‘the government’ being out to get Tate who is being framed but has done nothing wrong. It seems clear from just a glancing read in the mainstream media that the man made his fortune by producing pornography, that he rails against everything we stand for as a family. He is a misogynist and his arrest for trafficking and rape suggests much worse. He is all about making money and brags about not paying taxes. He is an angry white man who rails against the world in shouty videos.
I do not know how to handle this. My teenage son is not easy to deal with at times. Withdrawn, taciturn, the usual teenage stuff. I was initially delighted that at least he talked about it to us yesterday and we had a calm discussion. But I have since found out who this guy is and got more of a sense of the indoctrination that has taken place.
I wonder if other parents are in a similar situation? How should I handle this? I fear that the more I say against this guy the more appealing he will be to a teenager. It’s all about being different to your parents, and what this toxic man stands for could be no more different.
I don’t think removing his phone is the answer, it would only antagonise him. I need him to stay on side and to see what this icon really is like.
Any suggestions on how to handle this would be really appreciated. I am beside myself with worry about what damage this has already done to my son and how to stop this man skewing my son’s world view. As he has millions of followers it’s likely other parents here have a similar experience.
Thank you! 😢

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MeghanAndTheSeals · 11/01/2023 10:40

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This is comedy gold, I can’t wait for more insults.

Genuine question - how on earth do you think you’re doing Tate any favours by spewing forth like that?

ImOnSmoke · 11/01/2023 10:40

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SleepyRooster · 11/01/2023 10:40

Sexy!

ImOnSmoke · 11/01/2023 10:41

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MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 11/01/2023 10:41

Andrew Tate superfans crying on MN because the MN ladies are being mean about him.

Boo hoo.

MeghanAndTheSeals · 11/01/2023 10:42

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I’ll tell if you tell us first how many you’ve sheltered. Or was there not room at your mum’s house?

ImOnSmoke · 11/01/2023 10:43

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ImOnSmoke · 11/01/2023 10:44

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MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 11/01/2023 10:45

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Aye you did.

You had a turbo wank more like.

ImOnSmoke · 11/01/2023 10:46

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MeghanAndTheSeals · 11/01/2023 10:54

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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Thankfully, I’m able to fund my own life, so don’t have to wait for a “catch” like you to come home after a hard day at work.

Am putting money on the response to this …

monsteramunch · 11/01/2023 10:55

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Bit rich considering you replied to them in one minute, no?

MeghanAndTheSeals · 11/01/2023 10:56

Sorry, that just really tickled me, the killer boast “… AND I got invited to a party in Croatia”. So ner 🤣

monsteramunch · 11/01/2023 10:59

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You know he'd laugh at you right?

At the fact he's got you so whipped up that you're willing to spend your time frothing about him on forums predominantly used by women.

I assume at some point you've paid for something he sells?

He laughs at men like you. He counts the cash men like you pay him and thinks you're pathetic.

Women want men to be their best selves, to be happy and healthy and decent. Being those things doesn't have to mean hating women.

Whereas he doesn't give a shit what men do, as long as it's making him rich.

monsteramunch · 11/01/2023 11:03

Do you do a 'tough and dangerous' job @ImOnSmoke?

By all means swap places, you go out and work while the man stays in and cooks and cleans all day and we will see how quickly you all change your mind.

Oh and you said people reply quickly so must not have busy lives / work hard.

I can reply when I want because I work for myself, running my own business.

I'm not cooking and cleaning all day. I'm in charge of my own time because I've worked hard to be successful.

Do all the women you know really not work? That's very unusual.

Of all the straight couples I know, the women earn around the same as their male partner or slightly more in a decent chunk of cases.

Welcome to 2023.

MeghanAndTheSeals · 11/01/2023 11:06

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I’m confused - is that Brazilian Real re currency? If so, 10br is around £1.60. Did you buy a couple of Barrie Houses at a car boot sale?

MeghanAndTheSeals · 11/01/2023 12:03

Barbie, not Barrie!

Appalonia · 14/01/2023 14:52

Gosh, sooo many deleted comments! What did I miss?!

MeghanAndTheSeals · 15/01/2023 02:48

Appalonia · 14/01/2023 14:52

Gosh, sooo many deleted comments! What did I miss?!

An “enlightened” person who was basically outlining:

Their expensive car
Their expensive houses
That women didn’t appreciate men who worked hard
That women just want to leech off men
Oh, and that they were invited to a party in Croatia 🤣

’Twas fun while it lasted.

Appalonia · 15/01/2023 08:15

Thanks! I've been listening to some interesting Twitter Spaces about Tate and wow, some guys will go to any lengths to defend him, even after hearing recordings of him abusing a woman.

can post the link if anyone's interested.

Hellsmovie · 16/01/2023 16:23

I see andrew tate as a character. I dont think it's the real him when hes on camera,

Just an act to get views .

90% of what he says is BS but its entertaining

monsteramunch · 16/01/2023 17:16

Hellsmovie · 16/01/2023 16:23

I see andrew tate as a character. I dont think it's the real him when hes on camera,

Just an act to get views .

90% of what he says is BS but its entertaining

Off camera according to law enforcement he's even worse, hence why he's being held on rape and human trafficking charges. Terrifying that his on air / social media character was actually a less awful version of his true, vile self.

Soothsayer1 · 16/01/2023 18:04

Hellsmovie · 16/01/2023 16:23

I see andrew tate as a character. I dont think it's the real him when hes on camera,

Just an act to get views .

90% of what he says is BS but its entertaining

I agree, it's just an act to lure people in isnt it!
he's showing the best persona that he can manage, the true him is too unpalatable for the general public and remains hidden until the follower has been groomed/brainwashed by 'Mr Potato'