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14 year old daughter moved out

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Doodles14 · 18/03/2022 16:15

Hi there

My 14 year old daughter has moved out last week cos I grounded her, she has met her dad for the first time last Thursday and moved in with him and his fiancé that she’s never met on the Friday, due to the fact he has parental rights I can’t do anything, he doesn’t even pay for her. I have been absolutely broken, sometimes she messages me, sometimes she doesn’t. Any ideas on how I should play this? She now has covid so will be isolating with 2 people that she doesn’t really know 😢

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CrazyRatLover · 23/03/2022 18:50

Oh well that's good. And I'm glad that you've got your mum, husband and friends. What does you husband make of of it all? I'm glad that you find comfort here too.
Yes I have and she loves me too! I was convinced that she hated me! Just exchanged a few pleasantries and left it at that. She's already talking about future plans regarding us so that's a good sign.
I'm sure you daughter will come round in time, she'll miss her comforts, routine and familiarity with you. xx

Doodles14 · 23/03/2022 19:31

That’s brilliant news for you, I am so delighted, and hopefully things get better for you 😘😘

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CrazyRatLover · 23/03/2022 19:40

Thank you @Doodles14
Thinking of you. Any time that you need to message, feel free. Keep coming back to the thread if you need to. xx

Doodles14 · 23/03/2022 19:52

Thank you so much, same goes for you, always here 😘😘 it’s such a hard time xx

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CrazyRatLover · 23/03/2022 20:01

Smile Flowers

CrazyRatLover · 27/03/2022 20:51

Thinking of you @Doodles14 Flowers

Doodles14 · 27/03/2022 21:04

@CrazyRatLover thinking of you too. Hope you have had a better day than me, not even a happy Mother’s Day message 😢 xx

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Billybagpuss · 27/03/2022 21:25

[quote Doodles14]@CrazyRatLover thinking of you too. Hope you have had a better day than me, not even a happy Mother’s Day message 😢 xx[/quote]
She will come around in time, I’m sure she’s processing everything in her own time. 💐💐💐

CrazyRatLover · 27/03/2022 22:00

@Doodles14 I agree with Billy, she will. That must have been upsetting and made you angry.
Last week I had thought I was getting somewhere with my daughter and it blew up again - she was angry (this was before she left with for her dad's) but I gave her space with a short positive message after a few days. It was left again to enable further space (no contact from either of us) and today has been a positive day, seen her and spoken about coming back etc.
You and your daughter will be the same, maybe she just hasn't been encouraged enough. I think my other daughter and her dad probably had some I put, she's very stubborn.
Leave her to think about today and maybe contact her in a few days with something positive, when you're less hurt.

CrazyRatLover · 27/03/2022 22:03

*probably had some input

mumofblu · 28/03/2022 14:49

Just sending a hug
I think I would be n your position too a couple of weeks ago except my Dd had nowhere to go .
Me and husband together so she bolts to friends parents house instead .

I did send a msg saying I would leave if I was the reason as she said for her unhappiness . She quickly backtracked and we are rebuilding but it's v hard .

Best wishes to you

CaMePlaitPas · 28/03/2022 16:22

No advice OP, my kids are still small, I'm dreading the teen years. You're doing you're best and you'll be OK. My heart goes out to you x

Doodles14 · 28/03/2022 23:08

Thanks everyone, I got a Facebook message about midnight to wish me happy Mother’s Day, Kills me to know she would rather spend Mother’s Day with her dad and his fiancée that she’s known for a matter of weeks than me, her mum who has always been there. She’s not replying to me today. I just feel completely out the loop, I assume she’s ok, but nobody is letting me know. My 6 year old is missing her, as am I, just awful. I feel so angry though that she’s done this to me. Xx

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PiperPosey · 29/03/2022 03:37

@Doodles14

Thanks everyone, I got a Facebook message about midnight to wish me happy Mother’s Day, Kills me to know she would rather spend Mother’s Day with her dad and his fiancée that she’s known for a matter of weeks than me, her mum who has always been there. She’s not replying to me today. I just feel completely out the loop, I assume she’s ok, but nobody is letting me know. My 6 year old is missing her, as am I, just awful. I feel so angry though that she’s done this to me. Xx
Let her miss you Doodles. It's not as much as her wanting to spend Mother's Day with them as it is punishing you. They are not giving her any consequences or asking her to do anything. Of course that is like being in Disney World as opposed to going to school..smoking..drinking... It's one big party over there for her. She's not replying because she wants you to feel rejected. It's working. I know it's hard...God I wish I didn't but I do..As parents we try to stop our children from making choices that will hurt them. Your ex and his fiance want her to be their friend. They could care less about her future. Big old happy reunion. She's in their love bubble. None of them can see the big picture but you. I would advise you to step away... make one last text with her informing her that the door is open... She can reach out to you at anytime to talk. But you won't be contacting her. And that getting her rejection is too painful and that you have to take care of the boys. Love mom.

I pray you have the strength to do that. You emotionally, spiritually and mentally broken at this point. TAKE care of YOU first.

She's not on the streets, she's eating... making terrible choices, but they are her choices to make under her irresponsible decisions from her, her dad and his fiance.

Doodles14 · 29/03/2022 06:57

@PiperPosey wow that’s the best advice, thank you. I did message her what you suggested, and now I am going to leave her for a while. Bloody hard but I have done it. I am now taking a step back 😢😢 the most hardest thing I have ever done. But thank you so much for your words xx

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AnastasiaRomanov · 29/03/2022 07:16

Totally agree with @PiperPosey. Sending you strength OP.

Sharper than a serpents tooth is an ungrateful child. It’s not a new story but doesn’t hurt any the less.

PiperPosey · 29/03/2022 07:44

[quote Doodles14]@PiperPosey wow that’s the best advice, thank you. I did message her what you suggested, and now I am going to leave her for a while. Bloody hard but I have done it. I am now taking a step back 😢😢 the most hardest thing I have ever done. But thank you so much for your words xx[/quote]
I've worked with teens during my career. I know them inside and out.
And as a mother I've been the target of a very, very manipulative one.

I let her wrap me around her finger because I thought that if I said no to her she would have a tantrum or I would ruin her self esteem. She played me like a fiddle. I was young and dumb. I was divorced and made up for the disappointment of not having her father. I have 2 daughters and my parenting style worked for one, but not the other.

I myself created a monster. I'm older now. I realized it too late. It wasn't until I taught parenting classes that I realized what she had done to me.

The bad news is that she continued this through her adult life. She inherited Narcissism from her dad, but my being so positive to her during her acting out assisted her unacceptable behavior.

Parenting isn't a Popularity contest. We want to protect them at all cost. You have done the best you can under the circumstances. She is 16. Her life is hers to live. You know you can't force her to change.

She reached out to wish you a Happy Mother's Day. I'm glad that you messaged her my advice. Now leave it up to her. Say the Serenity Prayer over and over.
AND over again. Somethings you CAN NOT change...somethings you can. But you absolutely have to know which ones you can and can NOT change.
Step away.... when she is ready she will contact you. You have to make that promise to yourself. Yes, it will be hard. But it will be her decision to reunite. Not yours. I know that you are hurt. You are questioning your parenting...etc.
She has to grow up and realize how much you mean to her. LET HER MISS YOU!

PiperPosey · 29/03/2022 07:45

@AnastasiaRomanov

Totally agree with *@PiperPosey*. Sending you strength OP.

Sharper than a serpents tooth is an ungrateful child. It’s not a new story but doesn’t hurt any the less.

Thank you Anastasia ... Flowers
AnastasiaRomanov · 29/03/2022 07:54

@PiperPosey
That’s so interesting to read about your daughter.
I have an adult daughter who I realise I have spoilt.
Because my own relationships with my mother and sister are very difficult, I put my daughter on a pedestal and just gave and gave. My boundaries were good until she hit her teens and then I didn’t really know how to parent.
The result is a selfish, entitled and rather spoilt young woman who I don’t actually like much if I’m honest. She has a good side, but I no longer feel much trust in her.
Standing your ground and setting boundaries is so important. It’s not a popularity contest and having good self esteem as a mother is crucial.

PiperPosey · 29/03/2022 08:42

[quote AnastasiaRomanov]@PiperPosey
That’s so interesting to read about your daughter.
I have an adult daughter who I realise I have spoilt.
Because my own relationships with my mother and sister are very difficult, I put my daughter on a pedestal and just gave and gave. My boundaries were good until she hit her teens and then I didn’t really know how to parent.
The result is a selfish, entitled and rather spoilt young woman who I don’t actually like much if I’m honest. She has a good side, but I no longer feel much trust in her.
Standing your ground and setting boundaries is so important. It’s not a popularity contest and having good self esteem as a mother is crucial.[/quote]
I was so young 20 and 22 ( 2nd one) when my husband left. I did the best I could raising them to be good characters and have morals. I was so immature.

You know people factor in heredity and environment for a child's development. What they often forget is also the personality of the child. Yes...you can teach them to share, but in the end they end up selfish.

You teach them not to lie, but they will lie. etc.
My oldest one would ask if she could go outside and sit on the steps...my youngest one would take off on her bike and I would have no idea where she was.
My youngest was always in trouble and I would end up paying for her wrong choices. As an adult we are cut off from each other because I finally said, " I will NOT accept your disrespect to me anymore."

She said, " Then don't ever contact me again." That was it.
It took years to get to this point. ( I'm 74 and she is 52) I just have had enough...low contact for 5 years. Pretty artificial, but still connected.
until she started the abuse again.

Parenting is hard. Especially with a difficult child to deal with. One who doesn't follow societies rules.

You and I did the BEST that we knew how to do at the time. Period. I can't excuse it, but I can explain it. I just tried my best to get through and past the teenage years with her. She wanted to move out after High School and she did.

Married 3 x in a short period...had 3 beautiful kids and 2 live with her ex. ( Who I love) they come to visit because they are old enough to make their own decisions.

But...and I say this to everyone I can... " Unconditional LOVE doesn't mean UNCONDITIONAL Tolerance. and you know Anastasia I don't actually like her either.

I've never said an unkind word about her to her children. If they ask I will say, "It's between their mom and I. " I know that I have stopped hurting from her words and actions years ago. Thank God.

I know it's her NOT me. I gave 52 years of myself, my love, my attention, my heartbreak...everything to her. And once I put my boundaries up and protected myself...she cut me out.

Of course once in awhile I miss her. That is a natural feeling for a mother. It is our job to nurture. But I thought unconditional love was a wonderful thing at one point, but then I realized..that some children are abusive and want us to hurt because they blame us for how their lives have turned out!

So my life story is not the best version, but it is my story about my messed up ballet that my daughter and I had for many years.
Good Luck with your story. Cake

Doodles14 · 29/03/2022 09:36

Love how honest we can be, I don’t like my daughter at the moment, I love her to bits but really dislike her just now, it’s so refreshing to hear these stories thank you so very much xx

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PiperPosey · 29/03/2022 09:52

@Doodles14

Love how honest we can be, I don’t like my daughter at the moment, I love her to bits but really dislike her just now, it’s so refreshing to hear these stories thank you so very much xx
You got this Doodles... as they say, " Patience is a Virgin." Grin
14 year old daughter moved out
CrazyRatLover · 29/03/2022 17:00

Hi @Doodles14, sorry late to the thread but it's positive that she messaged you on Mother's Day, she was letting you know that she cared. I know you expect a bit more but I think it's right to leave her again for a bit, don't let her think she's punishing you, and make her miss you. Keep going and keep strong, I know it's hard not to message all the time, but you both need a little distance and a break in the cycle.

PiperPosey · 29/03/2022 19:30

@CrazyRatLover

Hi *@Doodles14*, sorry late to the thread but it's positive that she messaged you on Mother's Day, she was letting you know that she cared. I know you expect a bit more but I think it's right to leave her again for a bit, don't let her think she's punishing you, and make her miss you. Keep going and keep strong, I know it's hard not to message all the time, but you both need a little distance and a break in the cycle.
I am so sorry that you are going through this with your daughter...It is so painful... Especially when her behavior is so inconsistent ... One day good the next day argumentative. It is so difficult being a mom at times. We don't like to see our children hurt...so we hug them only to be rejected with a slammed door. And when we expect her to be rude to us again she's sweet. So frustrating and hurtful to us. You keep strong too rat. I know how heartbreaking it is.. Flowers
CrazyRatLover · 29/03/2022 22:02

Thank you @PiperPosey x

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