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14 years old dd piling on weight

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/01/2021 11:33

And l don’t know what to do.

She’s always loved her grub. As a child she was always hungry and asking for food. And I’d be really confused as she would have had a big meal then say she was hungry 15 minutes later.

I could control it to some extent when she was little. We’ve got 3 others who are older and aren’t like this.

At Christmas, DH and l chucked out all Christmas goodies day after Boxibg Day as she was just eating them non stop. But she just carried on and on. She has piled on about a stone and a half.

We don’t have crap in, but she just eats endless toast and cereal. We’ve now only got porridge. So she eats toast constantly. I’ve had to get rid of the peanut butter, but there’s still butter. We have to have some basic foods in the house like bread and cereal.

She eats a good breakfast, lunch and tea. Plenty of protein. But this isn’t really the issue, it’s the non stop eating between meals. Is it possible to be this hungry? She’ll eat fruit too, but it’s just non stop.

She refuses point blank to do any exercise. I’ve offered to do couch to 5k or buy her a trampoline or dance class subscription. But she refuses.

Last night she was on her 4th round of toast and DS said ‘That’s enough’ Now she won’t talk to him.

What do we do? Ignore it and watch it happen? Speak to her? It’s getting out of controlSad

OP posts:
FightingWithTheWind · 23/01/2021 16:15

If she has always been this way have you ever had her checked over by a GP to see if there is something medical going on? There are medical conditions that really can make you that hungry and it should be ruled out.

Armi · 23/01/2021 16:15

@katy1213

Why tiptoe around her like this? Just tell her straight - you are getting fat - fat soon becomes obese and you won't like it when you're buying clothes in Evans Outsize. And assert yourself - you're supposed to be the one in control.
Nice.
SoftSheen · 23/01/2021 16:18

I think you have to just provide healthy food choices (including carbohydrates like bread and wholegrain cereal) and let her learn to self-regulate. Trying to control her probably won't work but will place a strain on your relationship.

Teenagers need more food (on average) than adults. So although there are better choices than 4 rounds of toast, she may actually need to eat rather more than you do, especially since she is very tall.

SoftSheen · 23/01/2021 16:19

Telling her she is 'fat' is really not going to help...

Christmasfairy2020 · 23/01/2021 16:21

I have an 11 year old whom is same. I've told her and before lockdown had her to weight people. So she is aware and I tell her fruit when wanting to binge. She is y6 11 year old 8st8 and 5ft2. Xx

Christmasfairy2020 · 23/01/2021 16:22

Also told her she is gonna slimming world if the weight doesn't stabilise. Xx

TatianaBis · 23/01/2021 16:30

Super difficult situation.

As of yet it’s not quite an eating disorder - more like addictive/compulsive/bored/comfort over-eating. It could turn pathological at some point. She could keep eating until she’s obese. But at the same time it might calm down eventually. She may just stay a bit fat but not obese. She may lose it all in her 20s. Or not.

I’d say something along the lines of ”I’ve noticed you’re eating more than normal, and there’s more of you than there was. Eating in teenage girls is very sensitive issue - so I f there’s something you’re worried or unhappy about that’s behind it, please know you can talk to me, or I can arrange for someone for you to talk to. If you just like food you’re bored, ok, but do be aware that past a certain point it really isn’t good for your health. Habits can become addictive and then they’re hard to break”.

Neenan · 23/01/2021 16:32

I feel for you OP. I had a DD like this, from being 11 she ate and ate, packets of crisps, crap, three meals a day whether hungry or not, wouldn't touch vegetables, hated me if I tried to encourage her to be healthy. Yet her older brother, DH and I weren't like that at all.

She was fat until she went to uni, then something touched a nerve. Cooking for herself and having slim, fun friends and finally finding her people that didn't see her as the fat, boring kid at school and she finally made changes.

It took her 9 months and she emerged like a butterfly and became the person she always was inside.

She struggles with her weight though and will never be skinny because ultimately she loves food, and more specifically the wrong food. She does try really hard though to keep it in check and exercise regularly and looks good.

I can't recommend anything other than don't buy rubbish, limit her opportunities to eat it, sit down together if you can at mealtimes to eat it and most of all keep her busy and active, even things like going to town and parking a long way out and then shopping until you drop.

Totally accept it is very very hard to do that right now. Flowers

Bellringer · 23/01/2021 16:33

Back off, leave her alone. She will stop communicating at all.
When she wants help, support her. Or else leave her be.

Titsywoo · 23/01/2021 16:34

@Coldwinterahead1

The more you limit food the more she will want it and become a secret eater (talking from experience)
Yep. Stop getting rid of everything you are making things worse.
Neenan · 23/01/2021 16:39

@katy1213

Why tiptoe around her like this? Just tell her straight - you are getting fat - fat soon becomes obese and you won't like it when you're buying clothes in Evans Outsize. And assert yourself - you're supposed to be the one in control.
Outrageous, have you any idea of the impact this will have on their relationship? have you never read any of the threads from posters who have awful, toxic relationships with their mothers because of behavior like this?

I take it you don't have a plump young teen that probably suffers with low self esteem and confidence? mmmmm

lljkk · 23/01/2021 16:41

What to do depends on the kid & I don't know OP's DD either.

My gut feeling is to start "I think you're comfort eating and a sedentary lifestyle is also unhealthy" and go from there. Try to persuade her that she wants a plan to come up with healthier choices.

Laiste · 23/01/2021 16:43

Pizzaiola - Hard, but stop buying cereals and bread. - We changed. Bought sugar free squash, sparkling water, almond and cashew milks, cottage cheese, wraps and crisp breads, tuna... used to cut up loads of carrot and cucumber sticks and have them in a big tub in the fridge. Had strawberries and grapes and bananas and satsumas available all the time. Bought muesli and bran flakes and shredded wheat. Didn't have massive amounts of sugar in the house, so they couldn't go overboard on sugar on cereals. I think we had dark chocolate in the fridge and natural yoghurt..... that girl (after throwing the biggest strop and claiming we were starving her and so cruel) changed her snack habits so fast, because she didn't love what we had, so she would actually eat when she was hungry! At meal times, she ate her food and for about a week moaned that she was still hungry but refused the fruit salad for pudding, so she can't have been that hungry! After about six months she had gone from obese to a normal weight, had loads of energy, a better attitude and everyone else benefitted from it as well.

This this this ^^^

Do it. All of the above. Wraps not bread. Almond milk. All bran not white cereal. Tons of very easy access fruit. Cut it up and put it in a bag in the fridge. Healthy dips. No crisps just carrot sticks.

Say NOTHING. Just do it.

Can you imagine how it would feel to be aware that someone in the house is constantly mentioning your eating habits. Watching you. Monitoring you.

If she asks where the white bread is ect just breezily say oh i'm trying to buy more healthy stuff. Eat as much of that x y z (wraps/fruit) as you like by the way, it all needs eating ... And wander off!

Tigerstripe20 · 23/01/2021 16:46

Ive been overweight to some extent my whole life and I am totally addicted to carbs and sugar which often go hand in hand I'm low carbing and for me its very hard , but I am an adult its its my choice to do this to be better for my health .

Please please do not start on the road to slimming clubs, diet foods telling her she's is fat etc , Ive had this since I was 11 years old both my grandmother and mother were diet obsessed and I actually was put on the Cambridge diet at 14 .
I remember having to have an outsize school blazer which at the time was a size 16 , 30+ years ago there were no school clothes over size 16 /18 now school clothes go up to size 30 my metabolism is useless now and Im sure I will always struggle, I am back to a size 16 now from a 22 and still need to lose weight .

Try and talk to her, to and explain you love her and you are worried about her she is addicted to possibly sugar and carbs and it will be a battle to wean her off but do it now and she will learn to eat healthily.

YouokHun · 23/01/2021 16:50

Hands on @ArseInTheCoOpWindow have we got the same daughter?

Actually my DD is 19 now but looking back I could have written your post when my DD was 11-17yo. As a small child (5-7yo) she had sensory issues. She was gregarious, liked by the adults, less so by her peers, but always sociable. She was a bit unfocused and not as good at concentrating as her peers.

I always remember she started year 5 as a slim girl but she became somehow, over that year, obsessed with food though it must have started before. She got fatter and fatter. I tortured myself about whether To say nothing and try and manage it by making sure our choices were healthy, she got plenty of exercise etc, or whether to gently say something. The world is full of women (and it is women) saying “my mother (and it is mothers who are blamed mainly) commented on my weight and it’s damaged me” but there’s an equally loud chorus of people saying “I wish my DM had intervened”. None of those people are wrong but it makes it very hard to know what to do for the best.

At 15 my daughter had enough freedom to buy rubbish food on the way to school and if we removed pocket money her friends would buy rubbish and she’d eat that. She was by now around 14 stone and 5”7’. She was lazy and completely unwilling to exercise. She was moody and stayed in her room, sensitive to anything she felt was criticism. Her school work was iffy, homework rushed and things often lost. She was distant and dreamy. Her room was a tip and I’d find loads of wrappers under her bed. She seemed depressed and I concluded she was eating to manage her emotions. This is a bit of a potted history but that’s the general flavour.

Through all this I was quietly at my wits end. I was so worried about her. The compromise to her physical and mental health. The negative feedback at school. The lack of interest in school and its potential effect on her later choices. She was ambitious but her hyper focus on some of her dreams were not matched by her effort. I was worried about her sleep too which she really struggled with. Pushing 17yo she must have been around 15 stone. I felt ashamed and judged, as if I was a bad mother incapable of bringing up a happy, healthy child and that I’d allowed her to get so fat. None of my other children had had such a tricky time so what had I done wrong with her? I felt so terrible and that I was letting her down but she wouldn’t let me near her.

It came to a head when I found cannabis in her room. I decided to try and yet again initiate an open conversation and she told me that the only way she could manage all the stress was to smoke and it was the only way she could sleep. I started to think about her sensory issues, her compulsive eating, her interest in food, her insomnia, her moodiness, her history and every time I research these things as a cluster I came up with ADHD.

I’m not trying to armchair diagnose or label but it may be worth ruling out. ADHD tends to manifest differently in girls and women, they tend not to be quite so hyperactive and tend to fall into the inattentive and/or impulsive (inattentive ADHD was referred to as ADD). The problem is that this is far harder for people to recognise. One of the problems of ADHD is the way the brain uses dopamine. The ADHD brain doesn’t do this well. The scientists think that this accounts for some of the risky behaviour and the compulsions; in my daughter’s case the eating was all about trying to produce that hit of dopamine. The laziness wasn’t laziness, it was the same problem, so was the sleep (“inefficient” dopamine). My daughter was assessed (3 hour assessment) by a psychiatrist who was an ADHD Lead in the NHS. We had to pay though and go privately as the ADHD provision is very slow). It was an in-depth assessment, looking at emotional, social, familial, educational, hormonal aspects and looking at the co-morbidities (ASD, depression, anxiety etc). I learned about rejection sensitive dysphoria and how this maintains the behaviours that develop etc etc. My daughter has had treatment, she does have a stimulant medication and she’s had coaching. It’s changed her life. She is no longer chemically craving good and she is able to manage other areas of her life much better. In the last two years she’s lost the weight and is at a guess around 10st. But more importantly she’s so much happier. It turns out she wasn’t a “fat, lazy self-sabotager”.

Sorry this is such a ramble. I’m not saying this is the case for every moody teen of course but I’m just putting this out there because I wish I’d spotted it sooner and just maybe someone else will find it helpful.

missingeu · 23/01/2021 17:01

@Poppingnostopping

I really don't think GP's are going to have much to say about this, they are totally overworked, it's impossible to get CAHMS help, what do you think they can do for a 14 1/2 year old who eats lots of toast, is depressed in lockdown and her mum thinks she's a bit podgy!

Sorry, but I don't think putting on weight in lockdown is unusual or weird. I also think that often mums struggle when their whippet thin 12 year olds then turn into quite curvy and sometimes a tad overweight fourteen year olds, with boobs, busts and hips. By nearly 15, some girls are still very thin and some really fill out. My dd was one of them and she did struggle as her friends were still tiny at that stage, but they won't be by 18.

I think valuing her, and making sure she has an emotional 'soft place to fall' whether it be you or a therapist or supporting her to see friends for walks, is all far more important than the fact you are noticing 'rolls of fat' instead of 'feeling her ribs', I can honestly say that I don't notice my girls bodies when I hug them and I wonder if that consciousness is feeding her negativity about herself. Make her feel great, support her (even if you think some of the things she chooses to do or be interested in are wrong or boring) and make her feel like an ok person, at the moment she's hiding away in baggy clothes and stuffing herself with toast, it's those feelings about herself that need to be reversed, she just needs encouragement to feel control over her own life and a little boost to get herself started.

I wish my mother followed this advise as a 13 yr old overweight girl, struggling with abuse. Instead she put me on diet, took away all nice foods and forced me to have weekly public weigh ins.

The lasting effect of this has been negative, I am still overweight, have complex issues with diets and scales. Plus not a great relationship with my mum and food.

Please focus on her good points, remind her of her self worth. She'll know she's put on weight. Let her decided what to do about it.

SabrinaMorningstar · 23/01/2021 17:04

This doesn't make sense. Four months ago, you could feel her ribs. Now you think she's put on about 1.5 stone on a 5.11ft frame and yet she has rolls of fat and is a size 16/18?
Your DH thinks you're obsessed. You don't know her weight. You don't know her BMI. Have you had an eating disorder OP? Because your approach to all of this seems rather disordered. You need to take a step back, try to find out the facts and direct her to the GP if possible. If she doesn't have an eating disorder, your current approach isn't helpful at all and you could be missing health conditions with your fixation on bread and cereal. Equally she might be a healthy weight and you're trying to impose a child's frame on a young woman.

partyatthepalace · 23/01/2021 17:25

Oh gosh it’s such a difficult issue!

On a practical level refined carbohydrates like supermarket bread (even whole meal mass produced bread) and cereal and sugary things like jam are very addictive for some people. Once they are in the system some people just want more and more, which is why she might be going crazy on carbs.

I know this might be a pain for you and DP but I would ditch cereal and bread - other than the German style pumpernikel bread which tends to be less of an issue. Also as PP suggested, ditch toaster.

I’m not suggesting ditching all carbs, but keep them v complex - brown basmati rice, jumbo or pinhead oats, lentils, quinoa.

I would also consider having less fruit around, just for a month, while she gets used to having less sugar - and put cut up carrots/peppers/cucumber in Tupperware in the fridge for her to have with low fat humous, or low fat (not v low fat) cream cheese. Good to keep these around even when you bring more fruit back after a month.

I’m not suggesting she shouldn’t have fun treat type food but better if its only out of the house.

I think you do need to have a conversation with her about keeping up a healthy lifestyle. You don’t want her to become self conscious or paranoid, but I think if you can be open about the fact you want the whole family to eat and exercise well (and maybe talk to her about everyone struggling with healthy habits under lockdown that might help) sake will prefer the direct approach.

Exercise wise I think PP is right, no phone till she’s walked for 45 mins. Perhaps you could do that with her and good for mental health too,

I would talk to your GP, perhaps she is unhappy and some counselling might help.

A good book on healthy eating is rangan chatterjees loose weight feel great - aimed and willing adults obviously, but very sensible guide.

Nameandgamechange123 · 23/01/2021 17:25

This sounds really tough. You have to be so careful about eating issues when it comes to teens. I think your only option is to buy in stuff which needs to be cooked and prepared like meat/ fish / potatoes and veg etc. Its actually a really great diet for everyone to adopt so nobody will be suffering (other than having to prepare the food obviously!). Perhaps after doing this for a few weeks, it will break the cycle?

NotMeekNotObedient · 23/01/2021 17:35

I think a trip to the gp sounds sensible. 4 rounds of toast after main meal doesn't seem right. I had thyroid issues undiagnosed for years - as lots of the symptoms are similar to growing up and being a teenager. If my thyroid is out of wack I can really eat, I'm low, exhausted, cant get out of bed, moody.

But then again I think a lot of people have put on weight during lockdown and are feeling down, not getting out much.

Invisiblewoman1 · 23/01/2021 17:36

As someone who struggled with weight throughout my adulthood it stems back to being told I was fat as a child, put on a diet and not allowed the same food as the rest of the family.

She’s gained 1 1/2 stone weight - how do you know?
Do you know what that makes her bmi?

Unless her bmi has gone into the overweight category I would be cautious, as you could cause life long issues.

I would have preferred my parents to talk about health and not weight. And as a family not single me out.

Chose a time when she’s not hormonal and talk to her one and one about it. Ask what she wants to do. She might initially say eat what she wants, fine. Let her think on it a while.

Don’t be critical or judgemental . Be loving and supportive.

I would not talk to anyone who told me “that’s enough” so I don’t blame her. She’s 14 not 4

user1471554720 · 23/01/2021 17:40

You should allow a certain amount of sweet things, if you cut them out altogether she will crave them. If you allowed one small bar each day maybe that would help.

Maybe you and her could bake a cake or muffins once a week. The sweet things you bake are more satisfying than bought goods, and have no additives.

It seems like she is bored, would she do painting by numbers, or any craft to keep the hands busy?

I binged a lot when I was young but I was allowed a certain amount of sweets often. When biscuits were eaten at Christmas, we wouldn't buy more tins. My mother used to pack away some goodies and bring out in Feb.

Shinyflecks · 23/01/2021 17:41

Girls can be very hard to diagnose with aspergers/adhd. Not enough research etc..

If she doesn’t care about the weight gain I honestly don’t think there’s anything you can do. Just love her as she is. I was overweight as a teen, I’m not now. These are extreme circumstances.

Does she like cycling?

JinglesWish · 23/01/2021 17:49

I’m sure it’s a form of self-abuse. My SIL has been exactly the same since about age 13 (I’ve known her since she was a toddler). Whenever we went for family meals, she polished off the bread basket. When you sit down for a weekend breakfast, she’ll have 3 bowls of cereal and then start on the croissants. I’ve lost count of how many milky lattes she’ll drink in a day. Even a stop at a cafe, she’ll have the most sugar-laden thing she can find on the menu. For some reason, my in laws, DH and BIL have never said anything. She’s now nearly 30 and grossly overweight. She’s very short, so she doesn’t carry/hide it. If she was happy, it would be one thing, but she won’t even go swimming or wear anything that doesn’t hang off her boobs. It’s sad. It stems back to secondary school bullying, I’m sure. Hope you’re able to get to the bottom of your DD’s issues, OP

sergeilavrov · 23/01/2021 18:20

It's taken me six goes to read this thread today, because I find some of the replies so triggering. I couldn't read it all, so apologies if someone has said this, but please stop your behaviour. Most of these responses are absolutely horrendous. What you are doing, making this into a huge deal, restricting, allowing people to comment on it, framing her diet as a mental or learning disorder, using words like normal are how eating disorders happen.

My mum called me fat during a heated conversation, and a few years later I was hospitalised multiple times for malnutrition and dehydration. I didn't speak to my parents for years. While we've never discussed the issue, her quietness around food now and how subdued she is suggests she still feels guilty and ashamed of her actions. Do not become my mother, don't make your daughter try every day to love you because of how much pain you may be causing. Even though I'm physically healthy now, it's a daily mental battle and will be for the rest of my life. I'm a grown, professional woman who still fears visiting home.

Your posts make you come across as very critical, maybe at the end of your tether, but your daughter is experiencing so much right now. It sounds like she can't make many choices without being judged e.g. your comments on her leggings and clothes textures. Have healthy alternatives in the house, let her choose her own portions, demonstrate mindful behaviour and do all without comment. There is nothing normal about the last year, people will deal with it in different ways, please, please be sensitive. Weight doesn't matter - health does. Primarily, build her confidence up, love her for who she is, tell her and show her she's brave, hardworking, strong, smart, kind and beautiful. Giving her that self confidence is the best tool you can give her as a parent, and will equip her to make good choices and stick to them.

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