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I think I've lost my son

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MrsGradyOldLady · 11/04/2016 09:15

My 15 year old son moved to his Dad's a week ago. I'm absolutely heartbroken as (obviously ) I love him so much.

What started it all was that we were on holiday when his twin sister needed to find a toilet quickly as her tampon was leaking. I rushed on ahead with her to find one leaving the rest of the group behind - son, son's friend, daughters friend, my younger daughter, husband and another mother. My son came running up to me and shouted at me "Don't you think you show slow down since X can't walk very well?". I admit that I did snap back and said no - I needed to find a toilet for my daughter and I'm sure they could all cope without me for 5 minutes.

What followed was horrendous. We were all 8 of us sat at a picnic table with my son calling me a "fucking bitch" and a "fucking cunt" saying he hated me and was going to live with his Dad. I took him to one side, apologised for snapping and explained the urgency for the toilet. He continued with his angry and abusive language for the rest of the evening.

Since he got back he's started coming out with all sorts. I don't treat him equally to his sisters. I never listen to him. I bought his sister an I phone 6 but he got nothing (his Dad is responsible for his phone I'm responsible for his sisters and since he's lost at least 4 phones I can see his reluctance to get him a contract phone). He said (to his step mother) that whenever he asks to talk to me I say that I'm too tired. This has never happened - not once.

His father, rather than back next up has decided to "stay neutral".

My son has said he will only come home if I apologise for telling him off on holiday and agree to treat him equally to the girls and change my ways. How can I do this? He wants me to admit that he's my least favourite child which is simply not true. His stepmother told me I should be "the bigger person" and just apologise. I've already apologised for snapping but if I apologise for telling him off for swearing at me and not treating him equally it's just going to validate it in his own mind isn't it?

Son has agreed to go to one counselling session but has said if I try and manipulate the situation by lying then he'll walk straight out. He honestly believes his version of events despite the fact there were 7 other witnesses who all back my version of events.

I honestly think he's dug himself into a massive hole and is now trying to justify it by coming up with ridiculous claims over I phones and unfavourable treatment.

I have been struggling massively with my mental health since December. I admit that I've been spending too much time on my phone - this is something the others have also pulled me up on so I've agreed to stop this. I got to the point where I was having suicidal thoughts and have now been put on citalapram but it's not working yet and I just cry all the time over the slightest thing.

I can honestly hand on heart say I treat them equally. When I upgraded my daughters phone contract it cost an extra tenner a month so I increased his spending money by the same. I admit I've been a but "absent" from everyone due to the mental health issues and having been doing enough fun stuff with them such as days out etc so he does have a point there but none of this is directed solely at him. They've all 3 been affected.

His sister thinks he just wants to stay with his Dad because he can do what he wants there - stay in bed until 3pm, them play on his x box all day. No chores. No rules. I do wonder if he's depressed also as obviously it runs in the family.

I just don't know what to do.

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MrsGradyOldLady · 01/05/2016 12:23

Well we had another therapy session on Tuesday but neither of us found it at all helpful to be honest. We just argued back and forth for an hour while the therapist just smiled and nodded with the occasional "and how does that make you feel".

She suggested that I need to start acting more like a parent and issue clear punishments for not adhering to the house rules. My son didn't really like the sound of that funnily enough - and to be honest as they're nearly 16 I think that ship has well and truly sailed! I've been using more of the "postie parenting'/slack approach. I did used to punish them when they were younger - ground them, confiscate electronics, dock spending money etc but I haven't done any of that for the past couple of years. Generally a "talk" about behaviour was enough. Or so I thought.

We spoke a lot more honestly and openly AFTER the session (rather than during). We've agreed to spend the 45 quid therapy money on going out for tea just the two of us - if there's anything to discuss well bring it up then. If not we'll just talk about the weather or some "safe" subject.

We've agreed not to discuss religion, politics or feminism as he finds my views offensive and I find his views equally offensive. There's absolutely no middle ground on any of those subjects.

He basically shredded my entire personality and belief system to the therapist (which obviously hurt a lot ). The only topics we can agree on are music and North Korea. So it's a bit limited what we can talk about!

It's not as though I'm especially political or ram feminism down people's throats. I barely discuss these subjects with anyone else. It's always my son who brings it up knowing my view will be opposite. I'm just not going to get dragged into any more of these arguments. He's wrong about all his views - but he's a 15 year old boy and he thinks equally that I'm wrong and 'know nothing '.

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MrsGradyOldLady · 01/05/2016 12:25

Oh we agree on 'brexit' too. Oh what fun conversations we're going to be having over tea!

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emilybohemia · 01/05/2016 12:30

The abusive language is really worrying. Has he spoken to his sisters in the same way?

His Dad should make it clear to him his behaviour has been absolutely acceptable.

MrsGradyOldLady · 01/05/2016 12:41

He speaks to his twin sister like that, yes. Not his younger sister though but she does hear it.

The relationship between me and his father has completely broken down. We'd been friends for 10 years but now neither of us wants anything to do with the other. It was triggered (for me) by his failure to parent his son but that's not the only issue. Listening to my son speak is exactly like hearing my pompous arrogant ex speak. I would not chose to have friends with these views. It's a bit different when it's your child though....

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Clare1971 · 08/05/2016 18:41

Won't attempt any advice as own parenting is woefully lacking but just want to make an observation. Your son has a real interest in the world, politics, feminism etc. Yes, he likes to goad you, but how nice to have a son who's trying out his opinions and taking note of more than just the latest computer game even if he's wrong

MrsGradyOldLady · 09/05/2016 23:59

Thank you Claire - that's a nicer way of looking at it. Right now things still very strained but we've decided to go out for tea just the 2 of us on Wednesday. Still want to strangle each other right now though!

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